Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

Mark, Thanks for the lengthy response and great description of the construction of the 25's rudders. It's interesting how they made at least two variants of the mk1 rudders. Mine is definitely the latter version, hollow bottom half. Surprisingly the blisters I see are only on one side (portside) o

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

Hi Ian, The first year 25 mk 1's such as mine (1973 hull #79) were built with a solid wood rudder. I read elsewhere on the internet that it was made out of layers of mahogany plywood. So wood is an option if you decide to replace it. I just have two bad things to say about it: my wood rudd

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

It really does help, thank you. I'll plan to do what you outlined and if I run into issues I may just message you directly. Ian Tubby Icicle C&C 25 Mk1 St. Pete, FL ke 19. elok. 2020 klo 21.48 Don Marlin via CnC-List (cnc-list@cnc-list.com) kirjoitti: > Stephen, I have built many rudders. I just

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

Stephen, I have built many rudders. I just finished a year building rudders for a living as a break from my normal gig. It was a nice sabbatical but quite demanding physically. If you want a nice rudder built for you contact Competition Composites, they build nice products. For a transom hung rudd

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

Dan, I actually have seen your videos before - you guys do a good job, very cool. It's different only because the 25's rudder wasn't originally foam cored like your's is. It's a plywood/balistol who-knows. So it isn't necessarily going to support a foam reconstruction. Hoping someone with a 25 wh

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

I opened my rudder, dried it, re-glassed and resealed it. We have a YouTube channel and I made a video about the entire process. Here is the link: https://youtu.be/Ryfjgdu_l4w Dan Cormier Breakaweigh C&C44 Grenada ___ Thanks everyone for supporting thi

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

That's genius. I definitely will. Thanks Dennis. ke 19. elok. 2020 klo 18.16 Dennis C. via CnC-List (cnc-list@cnc-list.com) kirjoitti: > Just a crazy idea. Before you break it open, perhaps run a stud finder > over it. Mark any "hits". That may suggest a pattern to the structure of > the inter

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

Just a crazy idea. Before you break it open, perhaps run a stud finder over it. Mark any "hits". That may suggest a pattern to the structure of the internals. Then again, it may show nothing. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:51 PM Ian Tubby via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

Thanks Joel, I'm familiar with Sail Life. Mads has a lot of great info on his channel. As does BoatWorksToday. I'm just wondering if the internal structure of the rudder would support foam as a rebuilding material. I guess I'll just wait until I can break the rudder open to see it for myself. Th

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C&C 25 MK1

Welcome to the list , it a great place to be Look up sail life and boatworkstoday on YouTube Mine seems to be a steel shaft inside Hopefully that helps I’m new at boat I’m rebuilding mine Joel mk1 30 On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:24 PM Ian Tubby via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Evening

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild

Hi Dennis, Thanks for the idea, well... Sadly I'm the only 33 mkII around. My rudder, which is now in my basement, is out of shape but not that much neither (one almost ok side). We may try to make templates at different heights and correct them with a Naca model profile. I think it could be

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild

Is there a 33 Mk II on the hard, perchance? If it is nearby, perhaps a mold of the rudder could be made. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > thanks everyone for the inputs. > > Allan, nice to he

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild

That was the biggest concern for mine. The fiberglass guy was pleasantly surprised at the quality and conditiin of my welds. He took extensive pictures and made sure to encapsulate them during the rebuild. Josh On Jan 11, 2015 7:15 PM, "Graham Collins via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild

Hi Bruno Are you a salt water boat or fresh? If salt you may find that the metal frame inside the rudder is rusted away (particularly at the welds) and needs to be replaced, budget a contingency of a few boat bucks for that. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2015-01-11 7:37 PM, B

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild

Bruno — you could also check with Foss Foam in Florida: http://newrudders.com/ Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List wrote: > thanks everyone for the inputs. > > Allan, nice

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild

thanks everyone for the inputs. Allan, nice to hear from you, hope you're doing well. I have checked both Southshore and CCI about replacement, Southshore sells the "original" rudder for 4500$ like said Francois, and CCI can make a new blade for 3000$ if you send your post, would be more with a

Re: Stus-List Rudder rebuild

Bruno, simple email worked well for me and they were very willing to look things up in their files specific to my boat; > On Jan 11, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List > wrote: > > Jim, what's the better way to communicate with the museum to have access to > that kind of info? I b

Re: Stus-List Rudder rebuild

Take a look a these pics from my rudder rebuild. 37+ but it might give you some things to consider. https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yVUdWUDNxVGFUcDA/edit On Jan 11, 2015 1:26 PM, "Bruno Lachance via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi, > > The rudder on my boat has been

Re: Stus-List Rudder rebuild

Jim, what's the better way to communicate with the museum to have access to that kind of info? I beleive a lister has a contact there?? And that We could buy copies of our boat drawings. the 0014 naca profiles seems a good compromise for the boat. Smaller boats seem to go a bit thinner like 001

Re: Stus-List Rudder rebuild

I believe Bob Perry uses the NACA 0014 profile for rudders, if that helps. You should also be able to get the original lines plans from the Maritime Museum in Kingston. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 11 January 2015 at 10:25, Bruno Lachance via