Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-21 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Shawn Yes, the traveler is still on the aft edge of the bridgedeck.  Of note, I still have not added traveler tackle system (blocks/jam cleats) because of trying to figure out how to remove the old traveler to get new cars mounted.  Instead we rig a line to the traveler/mainsheet shackle and

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-21 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
ent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:17 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Don Kern *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim Ron Fireball carries four head sails when racing each has a cut and weight appropriate to the apparent wind: light #1 150% (3-12 kts), #2 135% (12-20 kts),  #3 120%(

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2019-06-21 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Alianna, my 35 MKII is setup up similar to Fireball with the high aspect ratio mainsail, ie shorter boom and she has a similar compliment of sails, mostly all Sobstad including a very light 162 percent genny and 2 spinnakers a staysail and a blooper. Nowadays most of those sails stay in dry storage

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-20 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Hi Ron, Interesting about your 35-2 setup. With such a short boom, is the traveller still on the bridgedeck? Our main is about 18" short of the boom end, but I assume it's the stock 13.5' boom. The headsails are totally custom: a solent rig inner furler with a smaller jib (marked 95%, but due to s

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-20 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Our main only has two reef points, but the 2nd is quite high - I suspect the top of the sail would be no higher than the spreaders. I hope to test it out this weekend. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 5:43

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-20 Thread Pete Shelquist via CnC-List
I’m curious how many have and use a Jib-Top? Worth it? From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Don Kern via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Don Kern Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim Ron Fireball carries four head sails when racing

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-20 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Ron Fireball carries four head sails when racing each has a cut and weight appropriate to the apparent wind: light #1 150% (3-12 kts), #2 135% (12-20 kts),  #3 120%(18-28 kts) and  #4 85% (survival). The main has only two reefs, the lower reef points are placed between where a 1st and 2nd ree

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2019-06-20 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
caulking, and we enjoyed watching some of the more tender boats in the fleet dunking their sails. Gary St. Michaels MD From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ronald B. Frerker Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-20 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
That sure seems to be true and I wonder why???  Are we just being too cautious when we start with a no.2 or when we drop to the no.3?  Or is there really no need ever for a no. 2?Although cloth density might make a difference if our no. 1 is really for light air.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL On

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2019-06-20 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Downside of jib alone is tacking as mentioned.  We often end up tacking through 130deg and then have to claw our way back to closehauled.  Still worth it as my wife and I can easily handle 25+ winds.  And she's no spring chick.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL  From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List  In

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2019-06-20 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Sailed under 2nd or 3rd reef many times. On the 35 Mk 1 if you need a reef at all, you need the 2nd. 3rd not rigged right now but I would put it back for offshore Joe Coquina ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. E

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2019-06-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
(reefed) clew as close to the boom as you want. Marek 1994 #122 ”Legato” Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: 19 June, 2019 16:31 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim I never liked that the aft cringle

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2019-06-19 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
ded it plus the resulting reefed main has a reasonable and flat shape near the boom. Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb.  -Original Message- From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2019 4:01 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weat

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-19 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
ing. I have some if you need it. >> >> >> >> Bill Coleman >> >> Erie PA >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Randy >> Stafford via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:08 PM >> *To:* cnc

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
s you noted, just need a > little 1” webbing. I have some if you need it. > > > > Bill Coleman > > Erie PA > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Randy > Stafford via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:08 PM > *To:*

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-19 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:08 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Randy Stafford Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim I bought a new mainsail last year with two reef points including dogbones in the cringles. And I bought a gooseneck pin with ram's horns. Probl

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2019-06-19 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
I bought a new mainsail last year with two reef points including dogbones in the cringles. And I bought a gooseneck pin with ram's horns. Problem is the dogbones aren’t long enough, so I can only hook one ring, and I have to remove the sail stop to let a slug out of the track to do so. Easil

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2019-06-19 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
leman via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > When it would pipe up around 20, I would feather the main in the lee of the > jib, and drop it, the lazy jacks would hold it pretty much in place, get the > sail ties on and keep going. That is if you have a 130 or better – &

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-19 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:42 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> When it would pipe up around 20, I would feather the main in the lee of >>> the jib, and drop it, the lazy jacks would hold it pretty much in place, >>> get the sail ties on an

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2019-06-18 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
gt; >> Bill Coleman >> >> Erie PA >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek >> Dziedzic via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:48 PM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* Marek Dziedz

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-18 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
doing that. > > > > > > Bill Coleman > > Erie PA > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek > Dziedzic via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:48 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic >

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-18 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:48 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim +1 on that Marek 1994 C270 Legato Ottawa, ON From: Frederick G Street via

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2019-06-18 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
For those of us race and change sails, one of my racer buddies told me you never change down from a #1 to a #2. You always drop to your #3. In my years racing since he told me that, I’ve come to agree with him. You might start with a #2 but you rarely change down to one. Dennis C. Touché 35-

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2019-06-18 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim I'm on the same page as Fred. I just reeve the second and third reefs. Our boats are so easily-driven we don't lose much by going straight to two reefs, if we're not racing. Andy Andrew Burton 13

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-18 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
+1 on that Marek 1994 C270 Legato Ottawa, ON From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 14:37 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim I may be a bit lazy, as I’m a cruiser and not a racer; or maybe it’s just the

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-18 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I'm on the same page as Fred. I just reeve the second and third reefs. Our boats are so easily-driven we don't lose much by going straight to two reefs, if we're not racing. Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middeltown, RI USA 02842 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-18 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I may be a bit lazy, as I’m a cruiser and not a racer; or maybe it’s just the way the reef points are set up on my main. But I don’t even reeve the first main any more. If things pick up, I go straight to the second reef. Less fiddling, and I’ve never missed the sail area between the first an

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2019-06-18 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 13:26 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim In those conditions, you should be good with just a small jib and no main. That's a lot of breeze. I bet you were kind of lonely out there! Andy Andrew Burto

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2019-06-18 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Thanks, this is good to know. I wanted to drop the main and try that, but I was afraid it would be shredded in the process. There were a few other sailboats, but none of them with sails up. Just as we passed by Victoria harbour, a windsurfer crossed our bow, tacked back, and waved... he was flying!

Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

2019-06-18 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
In those conditions, you should be good with just a small jib and no main. That's a lot of breeze. I bet you were kind of lonely out there! Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middeltown, RI USA 02842 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 On Tue, Jun 18, 2