Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread BillBinaList via CnC-List
New, but worth investigating: http://www.pettitpaint.com/products/varnish-wood-finishes/exterior-varnish/seagold/ Bill Bina On 2/9/2018 7:03 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: That would be my guess, also.  If I ever "lose" the Cetol, I'm definitely going to consider stripping the Cetol and sw

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
That would be my guess, also. If I ever "lose" the Cetol, I'm definitely going to consider stripping the Cetol and switching to Awlwood with proper prep, of course. Knock on wood (LOL), the Cetol will last a few more years. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Feb 9, 2018 2:42 PM, "Dave

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak / sanding between coats

2018-02-09 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
global.net From: William Hall via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: William Hall Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak / sanding between coats This summer I discovered varnish in a spr

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Dennis, Haven’t reviewed the instructions recently but I am fairly certain that you’ll need to get to clean, bare wood if you use the Primer. There seems to be cases of overcoating other products but I didn’t see Cetol mentioned. Best

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Thanks for the feedack on Awlwood everybody. My Cetol is in good conditionfor now. I've said in previous posts that I would definitely be amenable to switching to Awlwood. Cetol has been around for many years now. I'm guessing that the folks at Awlgrip have figured out how to produce a prod

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
t; Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Cc: Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>> > Sent: Fri,

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Joel Aronson Sent: Fri, Feb 9, 2018 2:40 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Photo would not load, but if it didn't look great Fred wouldn't have shared it! Virus-fre

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
schwartz > > Original message > From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List > Date: 2/9/18 12:06 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Frederick G Street > Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak > > Dennis — I did NOT do any sanding after the initi

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak / sanding between coats

2018-02-09 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
a CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: William Hall Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak / sanding between coats This summer I discovered varnish in a spray can.  I decided to try it on my grab rails. Two interesting differences from traditional varnish: -

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
Fred .. wow..a job well doneSomething can shoot for.Jim schwartz  Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Date: 2/9/18 12:06 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Dennis — I did NOT do any

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
ist.com>> wrote: >> >> So those using Cetol and putting gloss as the last two coats. Is that for >> looks? Hardness? Both? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> David F. Risch >> (401) 419-4650 (cell) >> >> >> From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
error. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 11:43 AM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Dave, You're not an unwanted guest. I actually agree with your opinion to some degree. I was walking piers one day and saw a Pearson 365

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak / sanding between coats

2018-02-09 Thread William Hall via CnC-List
82 C&C 37 - Ronin >> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay >> Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> >> >> On Feb 9, 2018, at 9:10 AM, David via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> So those using Cetol and putting gloss as the last two coats. Is that >

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Dennis — I did NOT do any sanding after the initial wood preparation; nothing between coats. The first coat of AwlWood is a colored or clear primer coat; apply with a rag, and let dry for twenty-four hours. The finish coats go on well with disposable foam brushes; thin coats, with a redcoat ti

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
lf of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:18 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak I used teak oil on the toe rails of my previous boat. I religiously oiled them every few months. After a few months, they looked like crap.

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
8, at 9:10 AM, David via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> So those using Cetol and putting gloss as the last two coats. Is that >> for looks? Hardness? Both? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> David F. Risch >> (401) 419-4650 (cell) >> >&g

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
; > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > ---------- > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of Dennis C. > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:18 PM > *To:* CnClist > *Cc:* Dennis C. > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak > >

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
gt; > Richard N. Bush > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Careful, you’re shouldering into Stu’s territory… :^) — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Feb 9, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > Send Dennis money. Send Dennis money. > > (Let's see if this w

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
is list! I love it... Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 <(502)%20584-7255> -Original Message- From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Randy Stafford Sent: Fr

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
. Is that > for looks? Hardness? Both? > > Thanks in advance. > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > -- > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of Dennis C. > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:18 PM > *To:* CnC

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
My experience with AwlWood so far has been good, as well. I have some small repairs to do to the forward handrails this spring, so will be able to report back on that process; but after a couple of seasons, the handrails and Dorade boxes look like they did when they left my garage after refinis

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
t; David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > From: CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf of Dennis C. via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:18 PM > To: CnClist > Cc: Dennis C. > Subje

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
l Message- From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Randy Stafford Sent: Fri, Feb 9, 2018 9:57 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak I did it because Dennis said so. :) Cheers, Randy On Feb 9, 2018, at 7:10 AM, David via CnC-List wrote: So those using Cetol and putting gl

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
h > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > From: CnC-List on behalf of Dennis C. via > CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:18 PM > To: CnClist > Cc: Dennis C. > Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak > > I used teak oil on the toe rails of my previous boat. I religiously

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
> David F. Risch > > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > -- > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of Dennis C. > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:18 PM > *To:* CnClist > *Cc:* Dennis C. > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak > &

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-09 Thread David via CnC-List
: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak I used teak oil on the toe rails of my previous boat. I religiously oiled them every few months. After a few months, they looked like crap. On Touche' I use Cetol. Five coats Cetol Marine followed by three coats Cetol Gloss. T

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak (John and Maryann Read)

2018-02-09 Thread Brien Sadler via CnC-List
John and Maryann, We love here as well and the previous owners were very helpful. They are great people. We are at Thames Yacht Club during the summer and still up at Midway in the winter. Brien Sadler S/V TAZ 1987 C&C 35-3 ___ Thanks everyone for supp

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-08 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
? John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:19 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak I used teak oil on the toe rail

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
there was an adhesion issue. You can see “bubbling” underneath the varnish (or whatever it is). I haven’t decided what to do about it. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:18 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak I used teak oil on

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:19 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak I used teak oil on the toe rails of my previous boat. I religiously oiled them every few months. After a few months, they looked like crap. On Touche' I use Cetol. Five

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I used teak oil on the toe rails of my previous boat. I religiously oiled them every few months. After a few months, they looked like crap. On Touche' I use Cetol. Five coats Cetol Marine followed by three coats Cetol Gloss. Then a coat of Cetol gloss twice a year. Over ten years in the Louis

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
I had a pretty good test of that in the past year. Last offseason I replaced Grenadine’s exterior cabintop teak handrails with new ones fabricated by my buddy Jerrod Milton. I finished the new ones (and the teak piece under the traveler) with five coats of Cetol Marine Natural Teak followed by

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-03 Thread BillBinaList via CnC-List
years later. Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie Original message From: BillBinaList via CnC-List Date: 3/2/17 17:14 (GMT-05:00) To: T power , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: BillBinaList Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? That stuff is not formulated for us

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-02 Thread coltrek via CnC-List
List Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? That stuff is not formulated for use on wood, or over Cetol! Being a two-part urethane, it will also be a major job to strip off when it fails. My thought is that it is just asking for trouble. I looked u

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-02 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
first step. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 5:08 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Re: Stu

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-02 Thread BillBinaList via CnC-List
-- *From:* CnC-List on behalf of Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:13:20 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? Putting anything on

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-02 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Anyone not finishing teak with varnish and letting it weather (oil/sealer instead) as an alternative? Dave Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-02 Thread T power via CnC-List
inting contractor. BOAT TEAK REPAIR Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> From: CnC-List on behalf of Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:13:20 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Bina - gmail Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-02 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Putting anything on top of Cetol sort of defeats its main advantage. Cetol breathes, which is beneficial to the wood, and maintenance is easy because a quick scrub with plain water and a 3M kitchen scrubby is all the prep work usually required to add a fresh coat or two when needed. The slight

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
quot; < > andy.staff...@comcast.net> > *Cc: *"Patrick Davin" > *Sent: *Wednesday, March 1, 2017 3:17:35 PM > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? > > Just curious, why would you want to do 5 coats of Cetol followed by 3 > coats of Cetol Gloss

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-01 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
Because Dennis said so, in his post yesterday :) Cheers, Randy - Original Message - From: "Patrick Davin via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list" , "andy stafford" Cc: "Patrick Davin" Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 3:17:35 PM Subject: Re: Stus-L

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-01 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation? > Thank you all for the responses and recommendations. > > For better or worse I've decided to go with Sikkens Cetol Natural Teak > followed by Sikkens Cetol Gloss; probably five coats of the former and >

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-01 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
screws pulled tight and butyl tape under the bases. Thanks again everyone. Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO - Original Message - From: "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list" Cc: "Joel Aronson" Sent: We

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-01 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
One popular technique in the tropics is to fill and seal the grain using epoxy and then painting the wood with Sears Weatherbeater house paint or similar, of a "woody color". This holds up for a very long time under the unrelenting tropical sun, and since the paint will not have touched the woo

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-01 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Randy, I have been using Cetol for years on the Great Lakes, and so applied it last winter to the much neglected teak on my Florida project boat. One summer of southern sunshine (and one hurricane) and it needs it another coat. I will take a little more care this year and put more on.

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-03-01 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Jamestown distributors has a varnish survey. Might be worth a look. On The Office I used Cetol Natural Teak and was generally happy with it. On Atlantis I started with Interlux Schooner Gold, but have switched to Epiphanes. I'm using the RapidClear because you can recoat every 5-6 hours without

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-02-28 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I've done both sickens and epiphanies on two different boats.  Other than the time between coats, I dont see the the benefit to sickens.  It seemed softer and less deep a finish than the varnish.  As far as upkeep, a couple of coats a year on either product seems a wash.  I'd  go with the varnis

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-02-28 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
I use Rust oleum Marine Spar Varnish. It is less than half the price of the other marine varnishes and comparable in quality. Jerry J&J Rust Oleum 207008 Marine Spar Varnish... $13.48 Jet.com ___ This list is supported by the generous donat

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-02-28 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I have been using Cetol for a while, same gallon can for 10 years. It is basically an oil based teak coloured stain, completely different from a varnish. It works well on Lake Ontario and when the exuberance during racing requires a touch up I also like the ease of maintenance. What is the n

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-02-28 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
I like how easy Cetol is to repair dings and scratches. A light feathering sand and apply another coat. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury Portland, Or On Feb 28, 2017 1:12 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" wrote: I've been using Sikkens Cetol for years. 5 coats Cetol then 3 coats clear. Maintenance coat of c

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-02-28 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Randy, I’ll throw in with Awlwood MA. It’s a bit dear price-wise but I’ve found that it floats out well and that fewer coats are needed to achieve the same depth of gloss that regular varnish requires, ergo less work. Keep in mind that it is a two-oars (first coat of Primer Clear then over-coat

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-02-28 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I've been using Sikkens Cetol for years. 5 coats Cetol then 3 coats clear. Maintenance coat of clear every 6 months. Seems to hold up well in the Gulf Coast sun and heat. BTW, don't use Cetol light. Tried that once. Not pleased. However, I hear good things about Awlwood. If I have to strip

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

2017-02-28 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Gary — I’ve tried Sikkens in the past, and was less than happy with the results. Last winter, I decided to try Awlwood on my handrails and Dorade boxes, and was very pleased with the results. I hope to do my toerail this spring. It looks like this product is going to hold up well, with a mini