Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-25 Thread Antoine Rose via CnC-List
ail plan as in the drawings and dimensions easy enough, but >>> a “this much sail in this much wind” written plan is something I never even >>> knew existed until I sailed a charter cat. We had an easier way anyway with >>> the big cat – just watch the rudder angle and

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-20 Thread Curtis via CnC-List
sailed a charter cat. We had an easier way anyway > with the big cat - just watch the rudder angle and reef anytime it got to > 20 degrees. > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > Coquina > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Curtis via CnC

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-20 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Della Barba >> Coquina >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis >> via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:27 PM >> To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan >> >&g

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Antoine Rose via CnC-List
Curtis, I still have the original instruction manual for my C&C 30-1 (1973), and there is no such thing in the manual. These sail reduction pattern were popular in the era of hank-on sails, when boats were carrying more than half a dozen sails to cover various wind conditions. I guess such a sai

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
; Joe Della Barba > Coquina > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis via > CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:27 PM > To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan > > Yeeea, Maybe I was

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
t: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:26 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan Yeeea, Maybe I was not clear on my point.I am kinda just looking for written speck's on the boat. I wanted to have it in my book. I wanted the official C&C version. I would like to see how the numbers measure

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Josh, The term sail plan should be a giveaway. properly speaking a sailplane is the diagram we have all downloaded fron the Photoalbum that gives I,J,P,AND E for our boats. What Curtis provided would be more properly termed a sail usage guide. A cat won't point like one of our boats. Going to

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Curtis via CnC-List
Thanks Michael, This was a great help. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Curtis wrote: > Yeeea, Maybe I was not clear on my point.I am kinda just looking for > written speck's on the boat. I wanted to have it in my book. I wanted the > official C&C version. I would like to see how the numbers me

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
ime it got to 20 degrees. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:27 PM To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan Yeeea, Maybe I was not clear on my po

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Curtis via CnC-List
Yeeea, Maybe I was not clear on my point.I am kinda just looking for written speck's on the boat. I wanted to have it in my book. I wanted the official C&C version. I would like to see how the numbers measure up other boats. Not looking for sailing advise. I know when to shake one out or the fly th

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Good point Joe. I did make the assumption that he was talking about a monohull despite referencing a catamaran. Josh P.S. So the charter companies don't like seeing their boats sailed properly? On Aug 19, 2014 12:20 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You are

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
The recommended sail plan would need to factor in what type of sails you have, the condition of the sails, what the Apparent Wind Angle is, and also what you are trying to accomplish. Getting the last 0.1 kt of speed in a race versus taking a conservative choice for a cruise will give different

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
You are missing a vital point. Charter cats NEED a written sailplan. They have little to no steering feel and don't heel until it is too late. If you leave too much sail up they might just round up against full rudder, go really fast but ruin the sails*, break something, or perhaps capsize. It s

Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan

2014-08-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
This is pretty much a universal rule of thumb. Reduce sail area when you loose helm, rail starts going in the water, or the wife starts screaming. Add sail area until one of the above occurs. In actuality "reef early and often" is a better rule. Additionally, any more than ~20° of heel is when