Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-23 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
the discharge into the head area above the holding tank, put a vented loop right under the deck and then exhaust through the side, but that may allow water intrusion when heeled over. Still measuring. This probably won’t happen until next winter – many other projects this time plu

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-23 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
ary > > #593 > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *RANDY > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:41 AM > *To:* cnc-list > *Cc:* RANDY > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? > > &

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-23 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
pull it next year. Gary #593 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RANDY via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:41 AM To: cnc-list Cc: RANDY Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Revisiting this thread, as I came across a few

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-22 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
"David" Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:46:40 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? If you have a catastrophic failure good batteries and luck (attentive neighbors?) will save her on the mooring. If you have bilge pump counter on an automatic telling

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump

2017-03-09 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Thanks Josh, Very helpful! Kindest Regards, Bruce 847.404.5092 Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone. > On Mar 9, 2017, at 8:10 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > > Check out a water witch switch. > > I had automatic Rule that "sensed" the presence of water every

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump

2017-03-09 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I installed the Whaler Gulper 320 in the area under the forward dining bench seat and used a remote pickup directly under the mast step. I wired in a Whale BE9006 electronic bilge switch with delay and have a three way ON - OFF - AUTO switch. The combination works well. When there was a centrifug

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump

2017-03-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Check out a water witch switch. I had automatic Rule that "sensed" the presence of water every 2.5 minutes. It was so inconsistent about turning off that I ga e up and used it like a manual pump. The I think it was OEM but may have been the PO that wired the manual switch and a float switch in p

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Neil Andersen via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Neil Andersen Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Not all auto-pumps are like that.  I have a switch on mine that can be live, off, or manual.

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread David via CnC-List
battery with fuse... Cheap insurance. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: CnC-List on behalf of David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:45 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I’m at a dock, always plugged in. I leave the house system on to keep the ice box cold. Nothing worse than warm beer. From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:45 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Not all auto-pumps are like that.  I have a switch on mine that can be live, off, or manual. Neil Andersen, M.Sc. Auburn, NY 13021 _ From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
RANDY via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:20 PM > To: cnc-list > Cc: RANDY > Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? > > I'm replacing my bilge pump and plumbing right now. Just last night > bought an 1100gph automatic Rule pump to replac

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
ted by a > circuit breaker switch. I recently purchased a Water Witch for the bilge and > a three-way switch for for the circuit breaker panel. > > From: RANDY via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:20 PM > To: cnc-list > Cc: RANDY > Subject: Re: Stus-List Autom

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
-List Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:20 PM To: cnc-list Cc: RANDY Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? I'm replacing my bilge pump and plumbing right now. Just last night bought an 1100gph automatic Rule pump to replace the same (age unknown) that came with

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
ssage - From: "Rick Rohwer via CnC-List" To: "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" Cc: "Rick Rohwer" Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:39:27 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Mine is also a Rule (I think the capacity is around 650gpm) with

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Mine is also a Rule (I think the capacity is around 650gpm) with electronic switch, redundant with another of the same in the shallow sump under the steps. They are both automatic or on with switch at nav table. Everything ultimately drains into the deep sump on my boat as well using (just learne

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread tprice--- via CnC-List
I use a Water Witch solid state switch to redundant Rule 2000 and 500. https://waterwitchinc.com/ TP Timothy B. Price tpr...@ingamemedia.com 917.755.6145 AIM: timbprice, Yahoo: timothyprice_98, SKYPE: Timothy B Price, Twitter: @NYC10075 From: Bruce Whitmore Reply-To: Bruce Whitmore Date: W

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
message From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Date: 3/8/17 08:40 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Sorry Josh, in retrospect I misspoke, the deep sump is, in fact aft of the mast, and not forward of it

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
sting pump was mounted to a makeshift stainless steel bracket. Thanks for the input!  Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Mine has limber holes that allow all the water to accumulate in the deep sump located about 2 ft aft of the mast. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 8, 2017 10:03 AM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > We have a deep, but small

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-04 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Joel We have a diaphragm bilge pump with a Water Witch. Due to the nature of diaphragm pump it does not drain back and this switch does get the bilge close to dry Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, January 02, 201

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-03 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 7:28 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help Despite the "conventional wisdom" against check valves in bilge discharges, I've had one in Touche' for a decad

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-03 Thread Dave via CnC-List
In my 33ii Had been thinking of using my rarely-used shower pan drain pump and connecting it to a diverter valve which would select between the bilge and the shower. Would plumb a hose and wire a float switch in the bilge, with a solid state relay by the existing switch in the head, wired in

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
That's what I use for a check valve too. Nobody ever blamed us for being conventional and no mention of wise either. :) I have a Whale low profile stuffed way down below the mast as well. It dries the bilge much better than the old system. http://www.westmarine.com/buy/whale-pumps--super-sub

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
I bought a check valve from Grainger plumbing five years ago a d wouldn't look back. Keep your bilge clean and you won't have a problem. Installed right next to bilge pump so access easy. Raise switch a little, put in che Ck valve. Done. Bill Walker CnC 36 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Satu

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Raising it doesn't help. Just more water in the bilge. The pump is a Whale. Joel On Saturday, January 2, 2016, Sailnomad via CnC-List wrote: > You can do one of the following: > - Raise the mounting of the water witch. > - Use a smaller diameter, or shorter hose > > Check valves are designed fo

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Sailnomad via CnC-List
You can do one of the following: - Raise the mounting of the water witch. - Use a smaller diameter, or shorter hose Check valves are designed for preventing instantaneous backflow. Pretty much all of them will eventually leak the water back into the bilge, so you will still cycle, only with a long

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Despite the "conventional wisdom" against check valves in bilge discharges, I've had one in Touche' for a decade and a half with no issues whatsoever. I think the secret is the type of check valve one installs. Jabsco, Whale and Bosworth make check valves for bilge discharges. I have this one: ht

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
: Saturday, January 02, 2016 17:52 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help While it would not be my choice, if you do decide to install a check valve, install it where you can get at it. They do stick shut sometimes, and for no obvious reason

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
While it would not be my choice, if you do decide to install a check valve, install it where you can get at it. They do stick shut sometimes, and for no obvious reason. Happened on a boat that I was crewing off the west coast of Vancouver Island. Nearly changed out the electric pump before we th

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Don't know how big the hose is, but smaller would leave less to drain.  I also   have an electronic switch,  - it is pumped through a Whale diaphragm pump,   which doesn't seem to allow much drain  back. It is also not high volume,  so an additional centrifugal pump is also helpful.  Bill

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Greg Arnold via CnC-List
Can you raise up the Water Witch switch so it is several inches above the water that drains back into the bilge? We recently installed the same switch in a Catalina 400 to eliminate the problem you have.  The advantage of the Water Witch is that it keeps ru

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Spencer Johnson via CnC-List
Very interesting discussion...my LF38 came with a Jabsco WaterPuppy pump mounted aft of the engine with a long hose and 90 degree strainer to the lowest part of the blige...just aft of the mast. The bilge pump exit is just a few feet up to port of the pump, just below the rubrail. A very effic

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I put in an anti-backflow valve, but in an area of the bilge where it is easy to get to (just under the floorboard). So, when it acts up, I can just take the cap off the 'T' part of the valve and clean it out. Or, in the worst case, just pull the whole thing - two hose clamps. I wanted the bilge

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Here's a very expensive solution http://www.aridbilge.com The nice thing is that it can handle up to 8 (IIRC) different little spaces. So pockets of water between stringers or below limber holes can be removed. Very low flow rate though so it is just a finishing touch type of system. Josh On O

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Mike, much of this you probably know but I figured I would chime in for everyone else. The PAR pump you have is a belt driven diaphram pump that relies on inlet and outlet check valves. These are great little pumps that can be run dry and self prime up to ~5 feet above the water level. It is abl

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Nice product. I had purchased a Rule 1500 autiomatic bilge pump to replace the manual PAR 36680-2000 on our boat that had no float switch. Then I realized the current pump has an extremely efficient pickup that takes almost all of the water out of the bilge. Will be returning the Rule and h

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Tom: Your electronic bilge pump switch shouldn't be mounted to the bottom of the bilge. Try lifting it a bit to see whether it solves your problem. If the sensor on the switch is always in the water, it will never shut off, and the bilge pump might not be getting the water low enough. These sw

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
ut at least we were not far from a suitable anchorage. Steve Thomas - Original Message - From: Richard N. Bush via CnC-List To: capt...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; t...@sv-alera.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump pro

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
stern squatted while motoring. Rick Brass Imzadi C&C 38 mk 2 la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1 Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:50 PM To: Richard N. Bush; C&C List Subje

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
rd N. Bush via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:44 PM To: capt...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; t...@sv-alera.com Subject: Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems Dennis, et al; for the bilge, is there an alternative to having a long discharge hose going to the stern? My pump works,

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sounds like something is wrong with the pump. My check valve holds water and the hose is propably as long as anyone's. The pump has no problem. Make sure you are using the correct diameter hose and minimizing other possible restrictions such a kinks. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomo

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
Dennis, et al; for the bilge, is there an alternative to having a long discharge hose going to the stern? My pump works, and there has been a check valve put in by PO, but the long hose simply holds the water and the bilge pump can't do its job... thanks Richard Richard N. Bush 1985 37 CB;