Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-19 Thread David Lenehan via CnC-List
This is such an interesting thread that I thought I'd expose myself to some laughter too. As a matter of added interest, I joined the Stupid Club on the day after I joined the Hypocrit's Club. Years ago I had a lovely long line that I decided I'd use as a genoa sheet. It was a beautiful length o

Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-19 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
I used my 7 litre Pela vacuum extractor to empty the sump on my 3QM30 one fall and then kicked it over on the way up the companionway. Had to yank the sole and swab out the engine compartment. About three hours as I recall. Nice! Rich On May 19, 2015, at 19:08, Chuck S via CnC-List mailto:cnc

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-19 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
Ahh, yes, the old condom in the hot tub pump problem. you wrote: I had a hot tub that >would heal itself on occasion after a brief group hug! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 112, Issue 52

2015-05-19 Thread OldSteveH via CnC-List
Thanks for all comments so far. I was assuming that the prop was not unfolding and although that may still be the problem, it is unlikely. The cable sounds like a much more likely culprit. I will go do all the requisite troubleshooting. I have a Yanmar manual so that should help as well. Steve H

Re: Stus-List Stupid Club

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I left the oil cap off once. Ran the boat hard for 6 hours before I noticed. Also had the mess. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "robert via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "robert" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:23

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag -> cows in spring

2015-05-19 Thread Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List
Thank you! Made my day... Aaron R. 79 30-1 > On May 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Frame via CnC-List > wrote: > > > I'm happy I'm not in any club, or can sail to "foreign" ports. I'd probably > start an incident among the white-whine set by flying the wrong color or logo > or something. > >

Re: Stus-List C&C 29 - $2500

2015-05-19 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
It's not a total disaster. The interiors had water sitting in it for a long time. There's no mention of a mast. Might as well be free then. Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone > On May 19, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List > wrote: > > If someone is looking for a project

Re: Stus-List Prop Walk C&C 29-2

2015-05-19 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
As Russ said, prop wash is the disturbed column of water that results from prop rotation and stretches out behind the boat. Next time you are sailing in the Bay and your depth alarm goes off in open water and scares the crap out of you, and your depth sounder shows a depth of about 3 ½ feet whi

Re: Stus-List Prop Walk

2015-05-19 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Sail drives have both prop walk and torque steer, as do outboards. With an outboard the tendency is to turn the motor off center slightly so the thrust offsets the prop walk. And see my comment about outboards having a tab to compensate for torque steer; on a Mercury engine or Mercruiser outdriv

Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

2015-05-19 Thread Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List
Here some pictures of Miragehttps://www.flickr.com/gp/77363625@N06/jN790G  Pierre Tremblay Avalanche #54988 C&C38-3 WK, hull #76 De : Harry Hallgring À : "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Cc : Pierre Tremblay Envoyé le : mardi 19 mai 2015 9h09 Objet : Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport Thanks

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-19 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Rick, I use Torresen Marine, but they are probably available from any Yanmar dealer or Mack Boring. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rohwer via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Stus-List Prop Walk

2015-05-19 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
My understanding, also. Gary S/V Expresso ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: > I read somewhere the *primary cause of prop walk is the shaft angle*. > Sail drives and outboards have zero prop walk because the shaft is > straight. > > Chuck > Resolute

Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger problem

2015-05-19 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
We spent the day at the boat and managed to fix the problem. After many attempts to flatten the mating surfaces, we realized that the end cap was not flat so it was not making contact all around the heat exchanger body. We fashioned a new thicker gasket out of a cork composite material we got

Re: Stus-List first sail, first race of the year

2015-05-19 Thread Chris Price via CnC-List
I guess they sent you around some Gov't marks to get you some upwind work. It was a nice Southerly when we were out. We are planning on going to the Wye River on Friday, if you do the race and want to raft up on Saturday, or sail up Eastern Bay and through Kent Narrows with us on Sunday, give me

Stus-List Problem with reverse

2015-05-19 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Hi Steve, I run a 3GM30F with a Kanzaki transmission and had a similar issue. The problem was a situation where the putting the gear lever in the full reverse position did not quite fully engage reverse on the transmission. The cable was somehow out of adjustment and simple corrective adjustm

Re: Stus-List Prop Walk

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I read somewhere the primary cause of prop walk is the shaft angle . Sail drives and outboards have zero prop walk because the shaft is straight. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "Rick Brass via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag -> cows in spring

2015-05-19 Thread David via CnC-List
Now that was funny...albeit partially and unfortunately and somewhat true. But nice work. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) > Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 15:29:54 -0400 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag -> cows in > sprin

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-19 Thread David via CnC-List
Russ, Thought of that but by the time I buy the parts ($300++) I exceeded the cost of a new one ($300) I found on-line with none of the headaches and worries of a rebuild. Thank though... David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 11:43:51 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-li

Re: Stus-List first sail, first race of the year

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I expected to be quite busy, and really enjoyed the experience. Working so much on winter projects like rebuilding the steering, and building the helm seat and boarding ramp over the winter, I forgot how much effort is required to tack and winch in the genoa. By the time I got the sheet winched

Re: Stus-List first sail, first race of the year

2015-05-19 Thread Chris Price via CnC-List
We were looking for you but didn't get out on the water until 3:30 on Saturday. That's a handful of boat to singlehand. I sailed mine solo to West River one time, found a summer thunderstorm just as I got in to the mooring. Interesting time was had. Chris Price Pradel 35 MK I - Original

Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger problem

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I reuse my old gasket every time I take the exchanger apart which is at least once a year to change the zinc and more often if I experience over heating. I've had the boat 12 years of it's 25 years. I think this proves the rubber gasket and O-ring are reusable. The bolts require a 9/16" wrench

Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

2015-05-19 Thread Brad Crawford via CnC-List
Thanks for sharing, amazing how fast those boats go, and what a great day. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 6:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

Stus-List first sail, first race of the year

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Had my first sail of the year last Saturday. Did a 10 mile distance race from Annapolis to Gibson Island singlehanded. First singlehanded race of my life. Great sun, 80 degree air and 65 degree water and wind was 8 to 12 knots. Finished in the back of the fleet of crewed boats but not last. Shou

Re: Stus-List Problem with reverse

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Try Edd's suggestion. Find the shift lever at the engine transmission. You should be able to move the lever from center neutral to forward (reverse gear) and backward (forward gear). You should be able to do this with everything as is, no tools, but you need to overcome the cable friction. If it

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag -> cows in spring

2015-05-19 Thread Andrew Frame via CnC-List
I'm happy I'm not in any club, or can sail to "foreign" ports. I'd probably start an incident among the white-whine set by flying the wrong color or logo or something. "What's that?" "A bandanna. Drying." "It's blue with white scrollwork." "And?" "That's very close to the same design fr

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag -> cows in spring

2015-05-19 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
In Greece we say 'pushing a dead donkey' Sent from my iPhone > On May 19, 2015, at 14:40, Russ & Melody via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hi Stelios, > > How about our quest for etiquette, "milking a dead cow"? > > The other thought was, "it's gone udder up" but I'm pretty sure I just made > up t

Re: Stus-List Problem with reverse

2015-05-19 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Steve, Did you verify if the shaft is spinning in reverse at low speed? I'm thinking it might take high RPM to get your prop working after the winter chill & sit... Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:41 AM 19/05/2015, you wrote: Hello all, Diamond Girl launched on the wee

Re: Stus-List Prop Walk C&C 29-2

2015-05-19 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Josh, Prop wash is the disturbed, somewhat aerated, water left behind the boat when motoring. It can be a good place to troll for bluebacks in the spring. :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:09 PM 18/05/2015, you wrote: Rick, Is their such a thing as prop-wash? If so w

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-19 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi David, Probably a pitted shaft at the seal area. Replace shaft & seal no big deal, assess bearing(s) at the same time. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 06:04 PM 18/05/2015, you wrote: Rick, Thank you. Correct on all counts except the missing vane is from the impeller wh

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag -> cows in spring

2015-05-19 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Stelios, How about our quest for etiquette, "milking a dead cow"? The other thought was, "it's gone udder up" but I'm pretty sure I just made up that one. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 05:34 PM 18/05/2015, Stelios wrote: Here are the proper ones

Re: Stus-List Problem with reverse

2015-05-19 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
It might also be simply a low level of transmission fluid--i'd check this first! Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messi

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck Borge via CnC-List
Hi Guys, Saw this on the Providence (RI) craiglist: http://providence.craigslist.org/bpo/5027782716.html Might be worth a look. I though of snagging it as a long-term project, but I'm sure the Admiral would have me flogged (again). Chuck B C&C 34 Elusive Somerset, MA On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:3

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-19 Thread David via CnC-List
Rick, For this pump I checked a full re-build kit...$350 and still needs to be rebuilt. New? Got one for $300 online instead of $400 locally Your pump experiences may vary... David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 10:21:00 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: S

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-19 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Where do you look for the parts? any kits available? Thanks Rick C&C 37+ Paikea Poulsbo, WA > On May 19, 2015, at 3:28 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List > wrote: > > David, > > The seals and bearings on the raw water pump are replaceable. It is > certainly cheaper than a new pump. > >

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-19 Thread Andrew Frame via CnC-List
Just wanted to thank everyone for their opinions and experiences with the assorted ways to accomplish this task. I have a couple of possibilities to get this done, and will run them all down for what works best for us. Andrew C&C 24, Hull #43 Lehigh Acres/Alva, FL On 05/18/2015 11:55 AM,

Re: Stus-List New Engine

2015-05-19 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Tim,, I have gone both ways on this issue in the past. I had the rebuild done in Alameda, CA on my Westerbeke 18 hp. I thought the shop was reputable, as they did a lot of this kind of work. Terrible results! I think they just repainted it and they were out of business when the problems resu

Re: Stus-List Problem with reverse

2015-05-19 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
start with the shift cable. Is it moving the lever on the tranny the whole way. Hope that's it! Joel On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:41 PM, OldSteveH via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, Diamond Girl launched on the weekend. > All is good except for going backwards . . . > > It

Re: Stus-List Stuffing box

2015-05-19 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
On the Buck Algonquin bronze stuffing boxes this works well: http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/10-in-wide-opening-adjustable-wrench/A-p8306623e Handles about a 2" nut. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1     Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:43:34 -0300 From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" To: C&C list Subject

Re: Stus-List Problem with reverse

2015-05-19 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Steve, It sound like your transmission needs to be replaced, or will be very soon. Shifting in high RPMs will damage it very quickly. Here’s a quick test — see you can manually shift the boat into reverse from the lever on the engine at low RPMs. If the boat goes into gear, you may just need t

Stus-List Problem with reverse

2015-05-19 Thread OldSteveH via CnC-List
Hello all, Diamond Girl launched on the weekend. All is good except for going backwards . . . It only kicked in when I revved the engine fairly high. Happened two more times. So here is some back ground and my questions: Yanmar 3GM engine, exc condition, well maintained, 450 hrs. Variprop 2 blad

Re: Stus-List Stuffing box

2015-05-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
A PYI shaft coupling isolator makes engine alignment checking pretty easy. However, the couplings are made with an alignment cone that allows the bolts to be loose (finger tight) and for a gap of a few mils to be created. As you rotate the shaft the difference between each axis should be less than

Stus-List New Engine

2015-05-19 Thread Kim Brown via CnC-List
Tim I would go with the remanufactured 3gmf30. This assumes you are comfortable with the vendor. The 3gmxxx seems to be about right for the boat and it should be a drop in replacement. That is what is in my 35-3. I believe the new yanmars flipped sides for everything so oil filter, exhaust etc is

Re: Stus-List Stuffing box

2015-05-19 Thread David via CnC-List
I'm a DIY guy. But some things are best left to the professionals. Aligning an engine is one of them. Get some high quality monkey wrenches and oppose. If your spinning the whole unit your hose clamps may be loose or the wrong type. IMHO. Have a mechanic sort the whole thing out and you

Re: Stus-List Stuffing box

2015-05-19 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I prefer a monkey wrench. You don't want to twist and break the rubber hose!!! Joel On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Don't tell anybody, but I've used (big) channel locks. > Gary > > - Original Message - > *From:* Dr. Mark B

Re: Stus-List Stuffing box

2015-05-19 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Don't tell anybody, but I've used (big) channel locks. Gary - Original Message - From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List To: C&C list Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:43 AM Subject: Stus-List Stuffing box First sail/journey of the year. Bedford to Deep Cov

Stus-List Stuffing box

2015-05-19 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
First sail/journey of the year. Bedford to Deep Cove in Mahoney Bay - approx 50 nautical miles. Left Bedford Yacht Club and motored out thru Halifax Barbour, around Chebucto Head and through Samboro passage - minimal wind and dead on the nose. Quite pleased with motor overall. I replaced a br

Re: Stus-List New Engine

2015-05-19 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Josh, I appreciate the advice - that was the approach I'd have taken if the galley wasn't already in pieces and the engine resting on a workbench. I'd hate to go through that again! Thanks, Tim On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You'v

Re: Stus-List New Engine

2015-05-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
You've lived with the leaks this long. Wait till fall and then rebuild or replace. I talked on the phone to the guy on diesel engine trader. I was impressed. If/when I need a rebuild he will be high on my list. I would probably opt to replace the oil and fuel lines as time permits on the rainy

Re: Stus-List New Engine

2015-05-19 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List
Tim, I went the Beta route on Perception – replaced a 2GM that was going to cost 2/3 of a new Beta to rebuild – without touching alternator, tranny, or starter – Put in the 25 HP Beta, a tight squeeze, but fit. Had spacers made to fit the motor mounts, went with the shallow sump, and upgraded

Stus-List New Engine

2015-05-19 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
I've been trying to chase down a small but persistent oil leak for the last two years, so we took the engine out of Mojito this winter. There are pin holes in the oil lines, a couple of leaks from fuel lines and the crank shaft is pitted at the rear main seal. A replacement will get me back in t

Re: Stus-List Rusted cotter ring remnants in anchor roller retaining

2015-05-19 Thread kelly petew via CnC-List
Thanks for all the advice. I tried vinegar, and it worked!! After about 24 hours of soaking in vinegar, I was able to easily extract the inferior metal, using a hammer and a punch. Pete W. Siren. Song '91 C & C 30 MkII Deltaville, Va. > From: cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > Subject: CnC-Li

Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

2015-05-19 Thread Harry Hallgring via CnC-List
Thanks for the kind words Pierre! Here are a few shots from Sunday's VOR leg start. We were on Alvimedica's chase boat...great day! https://www.flickr.com/photos/46147579@N08/sets/72157652015578858 Harry Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2015, at 09:55, Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List > wrote: >

Stus-List C&C 29 - $2500

2015-05-19 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
If someone is looking for a project: 1978 C&C 29 - $2500 (CAD) I wonder if that light blue is the original gelcoat. Could be a pretty boat again. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto __

Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger problem

2015-05-19 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
On May 19, 2015, at 6:15 AM, Danny Haughey wrote: > Hi David, > > Two things stood out for me in you message. > > 1. Did you put the same end caps on the same side they came off? Good thought. I have no idea as they look identical. I guess I could swap them, but there is only one part num

Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger problem

2015-05-19 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I used a new gasket and o-Ring from Toad. Marine. I did have a new thought about the problem overnight. For some reason that I can no longer remember, I put teflon tape on the threads of the end cap bolts. Was that a mistake and the teflon tape is keeping the bolts from tightening? Dave On

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-19 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
David, The seals and bearings on the raw water pump are replaceable. It is certainly cheaper than a new pump. Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Monday

Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger problem

2015-05-19 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Dave, Is the gasket new? I doubt that a used gasket would seal in this situation. It has been crushed under heat and pressure. It probably has taken a set that keeps it from sealing properly. Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger problem

2015-05-19 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Hi David, Two things stood out for me in you message.   1. Did you put the same end caps on the same side they came off? 2. O-rings don't typically rest against a gasket.  They are usually between two metal pieces. Hope this helps in some way.  Also, now that I always have a digital camera ha