Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread Rick Brass
James; If you look back into the list archives you would probably find that the C&C Smile and keel bolt torques are among the most frequently discussed topics. I’ve had personal experience with it on both of my C&Cs and also on the C&C designed Newport that I owned for a few years. My 25

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread Chuck S
Good video. Did they wrap the keel joint with glass? Missed seeing the fairing process. Resolute used to require an annual grind and refairing. It never leaked, but the joint opened up each year from sailing pressure on that long lever. When Resolute had keel work, the yard wrapped the joint w

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread jtsails
Dennis, Since mine is not leaking into the bilge and freezing is not an issue here, I think that I'll go with your approach even though my crack is much more extensive. I have to wonder if they didn't overdo the prep work when the barrier coat was applied 6 or 8 years ago. Wally, you dropped you

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread ahycrace
Dwight In my case the keel was letting water into the boat. We were getting about a half gallon a day and water would leak out when we were hauled for the season. I talked to a former owner who said it always leaked a little from the back of the keel (10 years ago) so I knew it was ti

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread dwight veinot
Dennis I'm not sure that would work to repair a leaking keel hull joint in locations where water freezes in winter. If the keel joint leaks water into the bilge then any water in the bilge will also leak to the outside through the joint and patching the outside as you suggest would trap water

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread Jake Brodersen
This procedure is all too familiar to me. We took about a week to R&R the keel, but that was due to other work needed in the keel stub. The project went well and 7 years later is still considered to be a success. The fiberglass wrapped joint is as tight as ever. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread Dennis C.
Torque the keel bolts to recommended spce, slap a layer of glass tape around the hull keel joint and go sailing.  That's what I did 12 years ago and haven't seen any cracks or issues since.  Have bounced on the bottom a few times since also. It's Touche' that's on the DIY "Fixing the C&C Smile"

Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2

2012-10-16 Thread spinsur2
Me too! Me too! randy Tamanawas 29-II Hood River, OR From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of paul waldeck Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2 Ted No experience but would

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread Ron Casciato
Gary and James: In the course of redoing the bottom on my 38MKIIC in 1998my fiberglass shop found some punky bondo-like filler around the upper joint. My guys here are pros at that stuff and I can't count on how many C&C's they've done from older ones to newer ones like the 115 in t

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread jtsails
Gary, I really!! don't like hearing that. This is a project that I'm going to have to tackle on my 38' as well. The keel joint is showing a definite crack along the entire length but I don't have any water in the bilge at this point. Advice? James Delaney C&C 38 1976 Oriental, NC -

Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2

2012-10-16 Thread paul waldeck
Ted No experience but would like to hear what you find just in case I ever need to do the same Paul Waldeck C & C 29-2 "Second Wind" _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ted Drossos Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:46 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2

2012-10-16 Thread Jeff Nelson
I've done mine twice. 1st time was a bear, the bolts in the quadrant were seized solid, so ended up cutting the quadrant off the shaft. There should be a round donut at the top of the rudder shaft, just below the square part that the emergency rudder would fit on. There is either a pin that go

Re: Stus-List Dropping the rudder on a 29-2

2012-10-16 Thread Ted Drossos
I'd like to drop the rudder on my 29 mkII after it's hauled this fall. Any advise or things to watch out for? Removing the steering quadrant is pretty straight forward as long as the bolts aren't frozen. I'm not sure about what is going on at the upper and of the rudder shaft at the cockpit sole

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread ahycrace
Joel Two years ago I did the same thing to "Liberty" a 1976 38' MK I. Unfortunately we discovered that all the keel bolts had to be replaced as well. The bill for the whole thing was around 12K. I have a log as well as pics of the whole ugly affair.

Re: Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread Joel Aronson
I'm glad I didn't get that bill! Joel Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote: This story on the Three Sheets Northwest web site may be interesting to C&C’rs thinking about a keel joint rebed project. http://threesheetsnw.com/blog/2012/10/racing-sailboat-dacha-g

Stus-List C&C 115 new keel joint video

2012-10-16 Thread Martin DeYoung
This story on the Three Sheets Northwest web site may be interesting to C&C'rs thinking about a keel joint rebed project. http://threesheetsnw.com/blog/2012/10/racing-sailboat-dacha-gets-a-new-keel-joint/ Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle ___ This Li