Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-12-05 Thread caziz
On 11-12-05 09:49 AM, Gustin Johnson wrote: I do not believe that a Linux based desktop is any harder for the average person to use. I have been messing with family and friends for years (my Dad's laptop dual booted and he really had no idea which operating system he was using). I really did me

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-12-05 Thread Gustin Johnson
I do not believe that a Linux based desktop is any harder for the average person to use. I have been messing with family and friends for years (my Dad's laptop dual booted and he really had no idea which operating system he was using). I really did mean that desktop Linux for the regular user has

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-12-04 Thread Mel Walters
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 17:35 -0700, Gustin Johnson wrote: > Desktop for Linux has been here for a decade. I was not really talking about the Linux desk top as much as the Whole Linux/FOSS "user_experience" period. Yes I know we have been using it for about ten years, but we are the exception not

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-12-03 Thread Gustin Johnson
Most people don't actually care about local vs remote as long as it does what they want. This is all just plumbing. You push a button and it does what you want. The principle of TANSTAAFL means to me that there will never be a single thing or a single way of doing things. There are too many inh

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-12-02 Thread Joe S
That was an interesting video. How far in the future is this happening? How far will this go? Won't people want to work on files on their computer without being connected to the internet, especially if that wasn't convenient or for personal documents. On Thursday 01 December 2011 10:42:53 am Sha

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-12-01 Thread Shawn Grover
On 11-11-30 05:35 PM, Gustin Johnson wrote: Anyway, the whole debate is moot as the desktop is dead. I do not mean extinct but it is becoming irrelevant from a consumer point of view. I suspect the modern desktop is going to live on as a niche that is outside the mainstream consciousness. you

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-11-30 Thread terr
I agree. We are moving into a world of the command line. By this I mean if we look at voice communicatiosn which is what the human race normally uses then it is like the command line. It is question and answer. Look at a high school girl and her eyes to me look like C:> So the desktop is mo

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-11-30 Thread Gustin Johnson
Desktop for Linux has been here for a decade. It does not count because most people are not even aware of an Operating System, much less do they care. I am not sold on the idea that a Linux desktop is any harder than one of the others. The people who find it hard are the so called power users.

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-11-24 Thread Dafydd Crosby
On 11/23/2011 10:41 PM, Mel Walters wrote: -- Linux and Free& Open Source Software On the Desk top I hear discussions and claims on both sides. 1/ The Desk Top is here for Linux. 2/ No it does not count because it is still too difficult to keep up for the average user. I am of the opinion that

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-11-24 Thread Lance A. Brown
Anand Singh said the following on 11/24/2011 1:05 AM: Choice #3. The Linux desktop was here, but was subsequently rescinded because it offered functionality not required by below average users. Honestly, was a minimize button so confusing to most people that it needed to be removed (Gnome 3)? Wa

Re: [clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-11-23 Thread Anand Singh
Choice #3. The Linux desktop was here, but was subsequently rescinded because it offered functionality not required by below average users. Honestly, was a minimize button so confusing to most people that it needed to be removed (Gnome 3)? Was the concept of desktop icons so confusing that it

[clug-talk] The State of the Art

2011-11-23 Thread Mel Walters
-- Linux and Free & Open Source Software On the Desk top I hear discussions and claims on both sides. 1/ The Desk Top is here for Linux. 2/ No it does not count because it is still too difficult to keep up for the average user. I am of the opinion that it takes time, effort and dedication to succ