Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Agreed. I don't think this blocks 4.0. The thread is on general@incubator, and I just nudged it along some. It would be good to get final word on whether we have the legal right to distribute these files. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > Noah, > > I'm not sure about legal

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-10-01 Thread Chip Childers
Noah, I'm not sure about legal rights to distribute (I'm not from Citrix, and can't vouch for the original terms under which Citrix / Cloud.com acquired the jars). We'll have to get an answer from someone from that original team. That being said, I don't think there is anything for the CloudStac

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-10-01 Thread Noah Slater
Just one follow up. Someone on the Incubator thread mentioned that we should be fine as long as it is legal for us to distribute them. (Irrespective of their compatibility with the Apache license.) Do you know whether this is the case? On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:52 PM, David Nalley wrote: > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
Okay, looks like we're fine as long as they're deleted from HEAD. /me adds new piece of Apache knowledge to his inventory On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:52 PM, David Nalley wrote: > > > > > On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > Poor choice of words. :) I've asked a question on gene

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks, I'll loop back when I know more. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:52 PM, David Nalley wrote: > Some were under VMwares SDK license, which does permit some redistribution > in certain cases, others were under the NetApp SDK license for which I am > unaware of the terms but it was posted to the

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-30 Thread David Nalley
On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > Poor choice of words. :) I've asked a question on general@incuabtor about > this now. I presume the jars have since been removed from HEAD. Is that > right? And what license were they distributed under? > > They have all (to my knowledge) b

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
Poor choice of words. :) I've asked a question on general@incuabtor about this now. I presume the jars have since been removed from HEAD. Is that right? And what license were they distributed under? On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:48 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Noah Sla

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-30 Thread David Nalley
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > My concern is that we're hosting non-OS software on ASF infrastructure that > people are actually downloading for convenience! I am not sure what the > policy is around non-OS software that has been mistakenly committed. > It wasn't mistakenly

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
My concern is that we're hosting non-OS software on ASF infrastructure that people are actually downloading for convenience! I am not sure what the policy is around non-OS software that has been mistakenly committed. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:16 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-30 Thread David Nalley
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < > chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com> wrote: > >> >> Does not solve the problem for developers? I am currently downloading them >> from the repository history. > > > This concerns me. Can we remove t

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com> wrote: > > Does not solve the problem for developers? I am currently downloading them > from the repository history. This concerns me. Can we remove them entirely? -- NS

RE: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-15 Thread Rohit Yadav
From: Edison Su [edison...@citrix.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:24 AM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack > -Original Message- > From: Wido den Hollander [ma

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-15 Thread Gavin Lee
inal Message- >> From: Wido den Hollander [mailto:w...@widodh.nl] >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:37 PM >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack >> >> >> >> On 09/14/2012 07:08 P

RE: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-14 Thread Edison Su
> -Original Message- > From: Wido den Hollander [mailto:w...@widodh.nl] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:37 PM > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack > > > > On 09/14/2012 07:08

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-14 Thread Wido den Hollander
On 09/14/2012 07:08 PM, Chiradeep Vittal wrote: On 9/14/12 8:27 AM, "Wido den Hollander" wrote: On 09/14/2012 05:23 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: On 14-Sep-2012, at 8:43 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote: Until CloudStack 3.0.2 - VMWare support existed in cloudstack and with the ASF builds we wil

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-14 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
On 9/14/12 8:27 AM, "Wido den Hollander" wrote: >On 09/14/2012 05:23 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: >> >> On 14-Sep-2012, at 8:43 PM, Prasanna Santhanam >> wrote: >> >>> Until CloudStack 3.0.2 - VMWare support existed in cloudstack and with >>> the ASF builds we will effectively 'break' this since VMWa

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-14 Thread Wido den Hollander
On 09/14/2012 05:23 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: On 14-Sep-2012, at 8:43 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote: Until CloudStack 3.0.2 - VMWare support existed in cloudstack and with the ASF builds we will effectively 'break' this since VMWare is non-oss. There are other components too but VmWare is the bi

Re: [DISCUSS] About shipping a non-OSS CloudStack

2012-09-14 Thread Rohit Yadav
On 14-Sep-2012, at 8:43 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote: > Until CloudStack 3.0.2 - VMWare support existed in cloudstack and with > the ASF builds we will effectively 'break' this since VMWare is > non-oss. There are other components too but VmWare is the bigger > piece. > > Hosters and EndUsers