Re: Clojure stack

2011-05-18 Thread mike.w.me...@gmail.com
Gregg Williams wrote: >Steve Yegge's main idea, that "Clojure needs to start saying yes," is >true on multiple levels. It's also BS on multiple levels, which probably has more to do with Steve's reputation than anything else. But I want to address your focus: >I'd like to focus the community's

Re: Clojure stack

2011-05-19 Thread mike.w.me...@gmail.com
pmbauer wrote: >I'm beginning to think this has degenerated a bit into argument for >arguments sake. > >Yes, JRE. You don't need the JDK to read/eval .clj files. And in the >context of where this all started, namely, critiques to the current >getting >started experience for new users, a 75MB J

Re: Clojure stack

2011-05-20 Thread mike.w.me...@gmail.com
Lee Spector wrote: > >On May 19, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Korny Sietsma wrote: > >> Experienced developers (who are likely to grok clojure) probably >already use one of ant / rake / maven / sbt etc. > >"Experienced with what?" is the question. Those coming from the Lisp >world, who are likely both to gr

Re: Clojure stack

2011-05-21 Thread mike.w.me...@gmail.com
Lee Spector wrote: >On May 20, 2011, at 3:30 PM, David Nolen wrote: >> Ah I thought you were talking about proper automatic indentation as >you enter in code not selective *re-indentation*. As far as I can tell >in the existing Clojure tools there are only varying degrees of >interpretation as to

Re: Clojure stack

2011-05-21 Thread mike.w.me...@gmail.com
Lee Spector wrote: >On May 21, 2011, at 4:47 PM, mike.w.me...@gmail.com wrote: >> So, instead of having an editor command region/function reindent to >show the actual structure of the code, maybe you need to switch to a >repl and run (indent-code "myfile.clj") to see what

Re: Clojure stack

2011-05-21 Thread mike.w.me...@gmail.com
Lee Spector wrote: >If I understand correctly you're suggesting that a user working with an >editor and a REPL, which aren't connected That being the mimimal configuration that I think of as "useabe". > , run something in the REPL to see the structure of the code. >Not un-useful, but of course t

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

2011-07-11 Thread mike.w.me...@gmail.com
Ken Wesson wrote: >On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Michael Wood >wrote: >> On 6 July 2011 10:14, Ken Wesson wrote: >>> Sorry, but I think version control and, particularly, dealing with >>> edit collisions is not something you can solve as easily as just >>> slapping a lock onto each file acces