Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-14 Thread BJG145
Having studied Lisp decades ago I like the look of Clojure a lot. But as a complete newbie when it comes to modern software development, I'm exasperated by what strikes me as a very difficult and primitive set of tools to get started. I keep seeing "Leinigen, Leinigen", and the Leinigen homepag

Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-14 Thread BJG145
What I find exasperating about Leinigen is that I've got a degree in computer science, decades of experience in IT support, and I still haven't been able to get it working yet. :-( Package Manager? Curl? What? OK, look, I'm not very bright. It took me years to get my head round OOP because al

Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-14 Thread BJG145
Thanks for the suggestions - this really isn't an anti-Leiningen thread, I'm just impatient that I don't understand it yet. But I'll give it another crack and post some more coherent queries when I get stuck...:-) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-15 Thread BJG145
(Loads of great advice and information, here, thanks. I don't know anything about build managers so I think my next step will be to pick up a book on Maven to get the background...) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this

Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-15 Thread BJG145
(Loads of great advice and information here, thanks! I don't know anything about build managers so I think my next step will be to pick up a book on Maven to get the background...) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to thi

Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-15 Thread BJG145
Jules sums up pretty exactly where I was at...tried CCW, nope, tried light Table, nope, looked at Leiningen, thought: "Edit PATH? What, I haven't done that since I was on Windows 3.1, and what does this thing do anyway"...I appreciate the time people have put into all the advice given above beca

Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-15 Thread BJG145
Figuring stuff out is all very well if you've got a clear, consistent, reliable source of information. Learning Clojure the language - get a book, no problem. Learning Clojure the IDE...it's a mess, loads of blogs, some good, some bad, a lot of outdated or abandoned stuff. Google Clojure and y

Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-15 Thread BJG145
Sure...(lpetit, I can't remember what threw me, I probably don't have Eclipse set up correctly, but I'll add a note when I've checked it out.) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegrou

Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-17 Thread BJG145
...agreed, the introduction to CCW at: http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/eclipse.html ...is simple enough even for me to understand, and I'm now happy that CCW is working. I'd previously tried: http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+Eclipse+and+Counterclockwise ...whic

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2013-02-21 Thread BJG145
I've been trying to figure out how to get started with Clojure on Android, and I'm thinking of using LibGDX. http://code.google.com/p/libgdx/ I've just been looking at a game called "Bounce Away" which was written almost entirely in Clojure with LibGDX. (Released in December.) https://play.go

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2013-02-21 Thread BJG145
> > Also: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/clojure-android > (Ah, only just noticed thatI'll start there...) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Not

Custom repositories

2013-03-02 Thread BJG145
I'd appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction re: using custom repositories. I'm interested in using Clojure with LibGDX, but the only links I've found suggest working with Maven... https://code.google.com/p/libgdx/issues/detail?id=1118 http://www.pgrs.net/2011/10/30/using-l

Re: Interesting Light Table post

2013-03-04 Thread BJG145
On Monday, March 4, 2013 6:05:01 PM UTC, larry google groups wrote: > What was difficult for me was everything that had to do with Java. I > have had almost no experience with Java, and Clojure depends heavily > on Java. So learning Java, and the JVM, tripped me up repeatedly. > > > Amen to tha

Re: Custom repositories

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
I'm sure this must be simple when you know, but after several days of ransacking the Internet and trying different things I'm still stumped. I've given up on the LibGDX in Clojars, which is old, and also, I suspect, non-functional and/or undocumented. https://clojars.org/org.clojars.amu/libgdx

Re: Custom repositories

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
(PS I'm not asking about the programming side of this; I'm just lost with getting the dependencies working.) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new me

Re: Custom repositories

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
Thanks for the replies. I'd experimented with: :repositories [["libgdx" "http://libgdx.badlogicgames.com/nightlies/maven/"; ]] ...but I hadn't been able to get it working, and because I wasn't sure whether this was the right approach, I hadn't persevered with it. I just tried creating a new pro

Re: Custom repositories

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
(...the above message seems to have appeared slightly garbled for some reason...should have ended like this...) I came across an Android app called "Bounce Away" which I understood was created almost entirely using Clojure and LibGDX, so I was encouraged by that... > > > https://play.google.co

Re: Custom repositories

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
Brilliant - it works! Many thanks. :-) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsub

Re: Hello World not found

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
If you're looking at Clojure on Windows for the first time, I'm trying to get a kind of "Clojure for Dummies" going at: www.silvercrow.co.uk/blog (Experienced developers need not apply...you'll roll your eyes.) On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 3:35:16 PM UTC, MC Andre wrote: > > Clojure can't find he

A forum for Clojure...?

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
I'm not used to Google Groups so I'm not even sure whether this is more of a forum or a mailing list or something else. It's not really what I'd call a full-on forum though. The communities where I hang around tend to look more like this... http://www.edugeek.net/ http://www.edugeek.net/forums/

Re: A forum for Clojure...?

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
I don't see it as an experience thing. There are a lot of highly skilled professionals on the Edugeek and Sound On Sound forums... -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note

Re: A forum for Clojure...?

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
Hmm, I'm Googling to find a good example. Haskell forums...nope, rubbish. Python forums...nope. Maybe it's not a programmer thing. The gaming frameworks have nice forums - Unity for example. They're not all newbies. http://forum.unity3d.com/forum.php -- -- You received this message because y

Re: A forum for Clojure...?

2013-03-05 Thread BJG145
It might be active, but it looks ghastly. http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/ I'm not talking about activity, I'm talking about aesthetics. ;-) On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:22:25 PM UTC, Ben wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:21 AM, BJG145 > > wrote: > > Hmm, I'

Re: Custom repositories

2013-03-07 Thread BJG145
Re: this "Snapshot" thing - it's not very convenient for me to work this way as I need to be online for Leiningen to pull down the updates. I understand that it's possible to freeze the snapshot so I can keep a single stable copy in .m2, but how is this done...? -- -- You received this messag

Re: Scientific computing article with Clojure code

2013-03-07 Thread BJG145
(Thanks Konrad; a nice summary.) On Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:28:57 AM UTC, Konrad Hinsen wrote: > > My latest article in "Computing in Science and Engineering", with example > code in Clojure, in free access for a while: > >A Glimpse of the Future of Scientific Programming >http://bit.

Re: Windows Installation

2013-03-09 Thread BJG145
Perhaps this general anti-Windows attitude is what Windows-based newcomers to Clojure find off-putting... On Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:55:59 AM UTC, James Ashley wrote: > > Since I've seen a few recent posts about this experience, I figured I'd > share mine: > > 0a) Install cygwin. I don't und

Re: Windows Installation

2013-03-09 Thread BJG145
11:24:04 AM UTC, Jonathan Fischer Friberg wrote: > > My experience: > > 1. Download lein.bat > 2. Run it > > Jonathan > > > > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM, BJG145 > > wrote: > >> Perhaps this general anti-Windows attitude is what Windows-based >>

Re: Windows Installation

2013-03-09 Thread BJG145
...I dunno. As a Windows-addict-newbie, James has a valid point when he says that Windows users expect to be able to just "click next a lot", and I don't think that will get you very far with Clojure. The tools like Leiningen are pretty darn good, and not that difficult really. Simple, clear do

Re: Windows Installation

2013-03-09 Thread BJG145
(...I have to say that, from reading the above, Cygwin sounds like a nighmare and I certainly won't be troubling it...! If you want Linux on a Windows machine, Virtualbox sounds like a safer bet...) On Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:31:56 PM UTC, BJG145 wrote: > > ...I dunno. As a Win

Re: Improving visibility of clojure-doc.org

2013-03-12 Thread BJG145
It's quite confusing that http://clojure-doc.org and http://www.clojure-doc.org go to different pages. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members

Re: problem with dependencies

2013-03-13 Thread BJG145
If you look for "mortbay" on this page there seems to be some discussion on it which may possibly shed some light on the problem...? http://clojure-log.n01se.net/date/2012-06-12.html -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to thi

Re: [GSOC 2013] Android UI as Clojure Data

2013-04-11 Thread BJG145
>I'm hoping to find an effective way to express Android UI layouts with Clojure Are you thinking in terms of working with the standard XML layout files or replacing them with something else...? -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To

Re: [GSOC 2013] Android UI as Clojure Data

2013-04-11 Thread BJG145
PS The Clojure-Android group is pretty much dead in the water, though Thomas Kalbe recently posted up a useful link to something he's been working on. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure-android/fzcX_ColRwE -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G