Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Jan Rychter
On Sep 9, 8:04 pm, Sean Corfield wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Jan Rychter wrote: [...] > > I think issues like that are fundamentally important if Clojure is to > > be adopted for production work. > > I agree - which is why I'm pushing on clojure-dev for some serious > attention to be

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread David Nolen
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Jan Rychter wrote: > On Sep 9, 8:04 pm, Sean Corfield wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Jan Rychter wrote: > [...] > > > I think issues like that are fundamentally important if Clojure is to > > > be adopted for production work. > > > > I agree - which

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Luc Prefontaine
+1 We have production code here and would like to see 1.3 out even if the contrib issue resolve itself later. The first stable release of 1.3 needs to get used as widely as possible. If some issues emerge in 1.3 it would be better to know it as early as possible. There are significant blocks of

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Steve Purcell
David Nolen writes: > Waiting for contrib authors to sort out their libraries seems > unrelated as to whether 1.3 should or should not be released. That's > like delaying Python 3 because libraries don't support it yet. It > still wouldn't be released. Except that Python 3 comes bundled with many

debugging

2011-09-10 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi there, what's the currently best way to debug a clojure program? ideally, i want to see all vars, symbols, functions etc. that are in the current scope and be able evaluate expressions on the fly a "start repl here and stop program until repl is

ClojureScript children seq

2011-09-10 Thread Timothy Baldridge
I'm trying to do something like this in ClojureScript: (classes/add (nth (children (dom/getElement "topbar")) idx) "selected")) However I'm not sure what "children" should be. I tried (.children but that doesn't seem to work with nth. So I guess, in genera

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Jan Rychter
On Sep 10, 5:20 pm, Steve Purcell wrote: > David Nolen writes: > > Waiting for contrib authors to sort out their libraries seems > > unrelated as to whether 1.3 should or should not be released. That's > > like delaying Python 3 because libraries don't support it yet. It > > still wouldn't be rel

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread David Nolen
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jan Rychter wrote: > On Sep 10, 5:20 pm, Steve Purcell wrote: > > David Nolen writes: > > > Waiting for contrib authors to sort out their libraries seems > > > unrelated as to whether 1.3 should or should not be released. That's > > > like delaying Python 3 bec

Re: Thoughts on CUDA + Clojure

2011-09-10 Thread Takahiro Hozumi
C in S-expression approach might be helpful, if you just want to write C in Clojure syntax. The advantage of this pure translator approach is you can fully recognize what you do. Such implementation already exist in Scheme. http://practical-scheme.net/gauche/man/gauche-refe_76.html I think transla

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Stuart Halloway
> My worry is that the decoupling of "core Clojure" from contrib will > result in contrib authors not caring too much about sorting out the > current situation. Also, I think much of the fanfare of the 1.3 > release will be shadowed by the contrib situation. And perhaps most > importantly, I worry

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Sean Corfield
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Jan Rychter wrote: > Thanks for the explanations. I'll summarize: clojure-contrib is being > reorganized. There is no clear migration path for applications that > use the monolithic 1.2 contrib. Not all of 1.2 contrib code made its > way into new modules yet. There

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Sean Corfield
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Sean Corfield wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Jan Rychter wrote: >> Take an example -- even in the relatively simple case of >> clojure.contrib.combinatorics: note that it is NOT listed on >> http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Clojure+Contrib, and if I fo

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Sean Corfield
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jan Rychter wrote: > If you use Clojure to build an application that you subsequently > launch and maintain, it is pretty much a given that you use contrib. > Lots of it, in fact. I think that depends on when you started building stuff with Clojure. I get the impr

Re: ClojureScript children seq

2011-09-10 Thread Max Penet
You can use goog.dom/getChildren to get the children (I think it will exclude the non-Nodes such as text and comments ) but it will return an HTMLCollection doesn t implement ISeq, so you need to transform it to a regular js array with goog.array/toArray. something along these lines: (ns dom-mani

Re: ClojureScript children seq

2011-09-10 Thread Max Penet
On Sep 10, 9:33 pm, Max Penet wrote: > You can use goog.dom/getChildren to get the children (I think it will > exclude the non-Nodes such as text and comments) I meant "non Element Nodes" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Luc Prefontaine
+1 We were in production in Jan 2009 before Clojure 1.0 came out. We face the issue of un-rooting ourselves from the "old" contrib stuff. After analysis, 97% of the stuff we need from the "old" contrib is now available in 1.3 as separate libs. The only thing we would like to keep is the trace m

Re: Migration to 1.3 for mortals

2011-09-10 Thread Sean Corfield
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Luc Prefontaine wrote: > We were in production in Jan 2009 before Clojure 1.0 came out. > We face the issue of un-rooting ourselves from the "old" contrib stuff. > > After analysis, 97% of the stuff we need from the "old" contrib is now > available in 1.3 > as sep

Misleading Exception due to function name containing ->

2011-09-10 Thread Christina Conway
A function name contains the characters -> e.g. foo->fn The function causes an exception. However the exception is not reported on the function but on another function called before it. java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Wrong number of args (1) passed to: datetime$other-fn If the > charac

Clojure in Emacs Seemingly Impossible

2011-09-10 Thread Curran
Greetings, I would greatly appreciate any guidance on where to find a working and complete set of instructions for how to set up Emacs with swank- clojure. I am in Ubuntu. I have followed exactly every step of the instructions on this page http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+E

How to compose futures?

2011-09-10 Thread Illim
I'm a clojure beginner and from the future api , the only way I found to create a future from another is to block the resulting future's thread with 'deref'. I'm a little bit afraid of exhausting my thread pool. For example: (def x (future 1)) (def y (future (+ 1 @x))) y will block and consume a th

puzzlement over lazy sequences

2011-09-10 Thread George Kangas
Greetings, Clojurers! I've been playing with clojure, particularly with lazy sequences. Some of the results have left me puzzled, so I saved a REPL session wherein I illustrate the points of puzzlement. REPL lines are indented below; added comments are unindented. Clojure 1.2.1 I define a

Re: How to compose futures?

2011-09-10 Thread Kevin Downey
the future thread pool is unbounded (it uses the same thread pool as send-off). I have a library for composing async tasks like futures: https://github.com/hiredman/die-geister On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Illim wrote: > I'm a clojure beginner and from the future api , the only way I found

Re: Clojure in Emacs Seemingly Impossible

2011-09-10 Thread Brian Mosley
This was quite helpful for me. http://technomancy.us/149 On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Curran wrote: > > Greetings, > > I would greatly appreciate any guidance on where to find a working and > complete set of instructions for how to set up Emacs with swank- > clojure. I am in Ubuntu. > > I hav

Re: Clojure in Emacs Seemingly Impossible

2011-09-10 Thread Kugathasan Abimaran
Follow these instructions, it will work.. http://riddell.us/ClojureWithEmacsSlimeSwankOnUbuntu.html On 11 September 2011 10:15, Brian Mosley wrote: > This was quite helpful for me. > http://technomancy.us/149 > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Curran wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I would

Re: How to compose futures?

2011-09-10 Thread Laurent PETIT
Hello, Would it make sense to use instead promise/deliver, and enque computations in order in agents queues ? (worse parallelism, but more control over the number of threads ?) 2011/9/10 Illim > I'm a clojure beginner and from the future api , the only way I found > to create a future from anot

Re: How to compose futures?

2011-09-10 Thread Kevin Downey
I hate to see agents used this way. If people want a thread pool they should either use the ones provided by clojure, or create their own. Using agents when you want a thread pool smacks of ignorance. http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/concurrent/ThreadPoolExecutor.html You ca