Re: Unknown constant tag 32 in class file error

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Alessio Stalla wrote: > On 5 Lug, 18:49, Ken Wesson wrote: >> 1. A too-large string literal should have a specific error message, >> rather than generate a misleading one suggesting a different type of >> problem. > > There is no such thing as a too-large string li

Re: clojure and maths

On 6 Jul 2011, at 06:35, jlk wrote: I've been playing around with math in clojure lately and have run up against a few hurdles that I'm not sure how to overcome, any help would be appreciated! Mostly I've been trying to use the apache commons math library (http://commons.apache.org/math/), but

Re: Unknown constant tag 32 in class file error

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Peter T wrote: >> > > Does the file you are evaluating have more than 65535 characters? > > Nope. It's about 1400 LOC and not syntactically unique (no unusually > long constants, etc.). It's also not the longest ns in the project: > the longest is around 2000 LOC an

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 18:55:48 UTC+2 schrieb Ken Wesson: > >> I'd be very interested to know how one checks out a file from a CVS >> repository without cvs-pserver running. You do a cvs checkout whatever >> at the command promp

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

Hi, Am Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 09:23:08 UTC+2 schrieb Ken Wesson: >> Maybe by doing a “cvs -d /path/to/your/local/repository/directory checkout”? >> (without having an ancient cvs around to test...) > > How would that be implemented, though? Without the server running to > enforce mutual exclusio

Re: Clojure for large programs

Don't know if it counts as "large", but I'm running a 20,000+ LOC project for a 100%-Clojure web app at www.wusoup.com. My 2c: I'm not an experienced developer by any stretch of the imagination; this is something I'm working on completely alone, and yet I've so far found the whole thing incredibly

Re: clojure and maths

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: > For a Clojure approach to this specific problem, see > >        http://clojure.github.com/clojure-contrib/complex-numbers-api.html > > which is based on the generic arithmetic from > >        http://clojure.github.com/clojure-contrib/generic.a

Re: Clojure for large programs

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Peter Taoussanis wrote: > Can't really comment on how easily Clojure works for large groups of > developers as such. The flexibility thing might start losing it's > charm when you have 10 different coding styles competing with one > another under time constraints, e

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

On 6 July 2011 08:06, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 18:55:48 UTC+2 schrieb Ken Wesson: > >> I'd be very interested to know how one checks out a file from a CVS >> repository without cvs-pserver running. You do a cvs checkout whatever >> at the command prompt, the com

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote: > Hi, > > Am Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 09:23:08 UTC+2 schrieb Ken Wesson: > >> How would that be implemented, though? Without the server running to >> enforce mutual exclusion and detect edit collisions and everything, >> the whole notion of "c

Re: clojure and maths

On 6 Jul, 2011, at 9:58 , Ken Wesson wrote: > I wonder if generic math should become part of core for 1.4? Not really the most important question for now - what matters more is how generic math should best be implemented in Clojure. I don't think generic math should become the default (i.e. re

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

On 6 July 2011 09:23, Ken Wesson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 18:55:48 UTC+2 schrieb Ken Wesson: >> >>> I'd be very interested to know how one checks out a file from a CVS >>> repository without cvs-pserver running. You d

Re: Digest for clojure@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 6 Topics

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Bassel Hajj wrote: > (map #(get % ["45"]) d) Gah. Please don't quote the whole thing when replying to a digest. Preferably don't use digest mode if you're going to reply a lot anyway as replying to digests breaks threading for those of us whose mailers support it,

Re: clojure and maths

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: > On 6 Jul, 2011, at 9:58 , Ken Wesson wrote: > >> Multimethods of course are too slow for core arithmetic functions but >> we have protocols now and when a protocol is implemented inline in a >> datatype it runs as efficiently as any Java metho

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

On 6 July 2011 10:14, Ken Wesson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Am Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 09:23:08 UTC+2 schrieb Ken Wesson: >> >>> How would that be implemented, though? Without the server running to >>> enforce mutual exclusion and detect edit col

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Michael Wood wrote: > On 6 July 2011 10:14, Ken Wesson wrote: >> Sorry, but I think version control and, particularly, dealing with >> edit collisions is not something you can solve as easily as just >> slapping a lock onto each file access, or else version control

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

On 6 July 2011 10:37, Ken Wesson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Michael Wood wrote: >> On 6 July 2011 10:14, Ken Wesson wrote: >>> Sorry, but I think version control and, particularly, dealing with >>> edit collisions is not something you can solve as easily as just >>> slapping a lock

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

Hi, Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 16:15:12 UTC+2 schrieb faenvie: > you plugin really rocks. Thanks. Glad it helps. :) > have you thought about contributing clojuresque as 'clojure-plugin' > for gradle to the gradle project ? so that it will be more integrate > and managed like ... say the scala-p

Re: Clojure for large programs

What you say especially resonates with me regarding the 'ease of use' wrt hammering code in a highly iterative/productive way, and I have approached a number of 'enterprise' size solutions in exactly that way with extremely robust results (IMO of course :-)). On 6 July 2011 08:49, Peter Taoussanis

Re: Clojure now officially supported on Heroku

Great news. I was considering trying Google-App-Engine for Clojure, but it looked somewhat messy. I've tried Heroku for Ruby in the past and it was an unbelievably slick experience. I'll definitely go with this. On Jul 5, 6:54 pm, Mark McGranaghan wrote: > I'm very excited to say that Clojure is

Re: ANN: Hafni

Sorry to not get back at you earlier. I was on vacation. iarr stands for internal arrow, it was created because the arr function cannot be used inside the Arrow record. As of the rearrangement of the arrow protocol, it is deprecated. The ||| function is definitely the most confusing, but I added

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

On Jul 5, 11:07 pm, faenvie wrote: > note on the original posting: > > > First, he shouldn't be porting Java code to clojure, Second, Clojure IS > > fundamentally different from Java, and third, such said users who > > don't want to touch Java should not touch Clojure. > > to port java-code to c

Re: Build tool for mixed Clojure/Java projects

On 5 Jul, 2011, at 20:38 , Laurent PETIT wrote: > a) Select your project's node in the Package Explorer > b) Trigger its contextual menu, select "Run as", select "Clojure Application" > I *insist* (*) : you must trigger the Run from the project's node. > Only with the project's node will the incre

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 8:08:51 PM UTC+2, Sean Corfield wrote: > > It might be an interesting community exercise to examine the 23 GoF > patterns and discuss whether they are applicable in an FP world and, > if a pattern _is_ still applicable, what it would look like? > Hi Sean, take a look at

Leiningen 1.6.1 released

Hello folks. I just pushed out Leiningen 1.6.1! http://bit.ly/lein-news Highlights in this release include: * New search task: find dependencies in all remote repositories (not just clojars) from the command-line. * New retest task: re-run only the tests that failed in the last run. * New t

Re: Clojure for large programs

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Johan Gardner wrote: > What you say especially resonates with me regarding the 'ease of use' wrt > hammering code in a highly iterative/productive way, and I have approached a > number of 'enterprise' size solutions in exactly that way with extremely > robust result

Re: Leiningen 1.6.1 released

Hi Phil, Is it an intention or a bug that dev-dependencies are being copied into "lib/dev" when :local-repo-classpath is true? Regards, Sergey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups

Re: Leiningen 1.6.1 released

Sergey Didenko writes: > Is it an intention or a bug that dev-dependencies are being copied > into "lib/dev" when :local-repo-classpath is true? This is necessary since those dependencies need to be available to Leiningen's own process, which has to be launched before project.clj is parsed. Unfo

Re: Unknown constant tag 32 in class file error

On 6 Lug, 09:07, Ken Wesson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Alessio Stalla > wrote: > > On 5 Lug, 18:49, Ken Wesson wrote: > >> 1. A too-large string literal should have a specific error message, > >> rather than generate a misleading one suggesting a different type of > >> problem. >

Re: Leiningen 1.6.1 released

On Jul 6, 10:42 am, Phil Hagelberg wrote: > Hello folks. > > I just pushed out Leiningen 1.6.1!http://bit.ly/lein-news > > Highlights in this release include: > > * New search task: find dependencies in all remote repositories (not >   just clojars) from the command-line. > > * New retest task: re

Re: Leiningen 1.6.1 released

IMHO new people only will benefit from installing lein. It's very simple in basic usage. It can be used both from command line and with IDE. Though I prefer my own scripts for starting REPL with readline instead of "lein repl". It can be used with Enclojure by running "lein pom" every time you u

Re: Unknown constant tag 32 in class file error

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Alessio Stalla wrote: > On 6 Lug, 09:07, Ken Wesson wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Alessio Stalla >> wrote: >> > On 5 Lug, 18:49, Ken Wesson wrote: >> >> 1. A too-large string literal should have a specific error message, >> >> rather than generate a

PragPub July 2011 - A Clojure Edition

Greetings, PragPub for July 2011 is a Clojure edition. You can read it at http://pragprog.com/magazines/2011-07/content Enjoy, -- Miki -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Not

Re: Leiningen 1.6.1 released

Conrad Taylor writes: > Hi, should people new to Clojure install tool? Is this something that > mostly used within the command line or IDE? Yes, I think newcomers would benefit from installing it. Clojure is not like most languages in that it is not "batteries included"--it's just a library th

ANN: Gantry system administration and deploy tool written in clojure

Hello, I wanted to let everyone know about a tool I have been working on. I'm calling it gantry (a type of crane that I see every day on my commute on BART to SF and inspired by crane). I started working on it after seeing crane (https://github.com/getwoven/crane) and seeing the possibilities while

Re: emacs-clojure-vagrant: a sane development virtual environment

I'm on a Windows machine. Does the output below indicate that I need something like cygwin? Thanks in advance! [default] VM booted and ready for use! [default] Mounting shared folders... [default] -- v-root: /vagrant [default] Running provisioner: Vagrant::Provisioners::Shell... [default] stdin: i

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

On Jul 5, 7:30 pm, Sean Corfield wrote: > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 3:34 PM, James Keats wrote: > >> For example I suggest you look at this video/transcript and pay > >> attention in particular to the point of debate between Joe Armstrong >

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

I've been using Clojure on and off for a whilecurrently off, though not because of the language itself. The thread now seems to have moved in a different direction, but I have to say (looking at the Seajure and Y Combinator threads) that Steve Yegge has some good points. And ending up here wi

Re: Clojure for large programs

I agree that namespaces should be designed to be consumed, but that can be pretty taxing on the developer. In my libraries, I tend to split the functions into whatever sub-namespaces I want to keep the organization easy for me, and then import all the functions I want to expose into a higher-l

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

nchubrich writes: > A few people could spend a few tens of hours making things easier for > everyone else, thereby saving thousands of man-hours (isn't this > supposed to be what programming is about in the first place?), and yet > it doesn't happen. Really? It doesn't happen? http://groups.goo

Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

Hi, what's the correct way to define an else clause of a cond form? For example, a) (cond (= total 20) 8.75 (or (amount > 20) (= country "US") 9.75) (else 10.0)) b) (cond (= total 20) 8.75 (or (amount > 20) (= country "US") 9.75) :default 10.0) c) (cond (= total 20) 8.75

Re: emacs-clojure-vagrant: a sane development virtual environment

I don't have access to a windows machine to help you debug this, but this is squarely an issue with the vagrant installation. I would suggest reading http://vagrantup.com/docs/getting-started/setup/windows.html As a starting point. Vagrant related channels should be able to help you further (but

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

> And ending up here with a thread titled "stand firm > against..." seems to be exactly the sort of community problem that he > is worried about. To be fair, this post and its title were the work of an individual who has only been in this community for about 3 weeks. And while that individual, an

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

I believe (d) is considered the idiomatic way*. Btw, I think the second case may not be written correctly; if the intended logic is that 9.75 should be returned when either amount > 20 or country = "US", the code should look something like this: (cond (= total 20) 8.75 (or (> amount 20)

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

In addition to Benny's suggestion - I will suggest, for future reference, that the ClojureDocs website does an brilliant job in showing some examples. It really is a valuable resource that I've come to rely on. http://clojuredocs.org/clojure_core/clojure.core/cond And what's interesting to note

I cannot scroll up down REPL in konsole

In the default terminal of KDE linux, konsole, when I am using REPL I cannot scroll up down. When I get a long message I can only read the last lines. Is there any way to scroll up down the REPL in konsole (or other linux terminal)? (I think it is possible in emacs or vim, but I am interested i

Re: I cannot scroll up down REPL in konsole

I haven't had any issues in gnome-terminal, xterm, or iterm2. I suggest trying another terminal to see if it's a problem with konsole or your setup. Cheers, Aaron Bedra -- Clojure/core http://clojure.com On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Antonio Recio wrote: > In the default terminal of KDE lin

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

On Jul 6, 6:07 pm, Benny Tsai wrote: > I believe (d) is considered the idiomatic way*.  Btw, I think the second > case may not be written correctly; if the intended logic is that 9.75 should > be returned when either amount > 20 or country = "US", the code should look > something like this: > > (c

Re: I cannot scroll up down REPL in konsole

With xterm works fine. Are other people with konsole? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first po

Re: I cannot scroll up down REPL in konsole

I have discovered the cause of the problem, it is screen. When I am using repl with screen I cannot scroll up down with konsole or xterm. Without screen works fine in konsole or xterm. Is there other people with problem with screen and scroll down up repl? -- You received this message because

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

To Phil: I am certainly not complaining about your efforts on Leiningen, Swank, etc. I appreciate them and use themthey have already made things vastly easier for people, and the problems with setting up Emacs, certainly, are probably more to do with Emacs itself. I am just pointing out that

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

Conrad, The syntax of 'cond' is actually pretty straightforward. Following the symbol 'cond' you have pairs of predicate forms and consequent expressions. The 'cond' form evaluates each predicate in turn until one evaluates to true and then returns the value of the corresponding consequent for

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:06 PM, nchubrich wrote: > As to making contributions, I just pointed out an example of someone > who made a contribution and was ignored. Does the term "tl;dr" mean anything to you? I doubt very many people got that far in the wall of text you posted earlier, especially

Re: I cannot scroll up down REPL in konsole

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Antonio Recio wrote: > I have discovered the cause of the problem, it is screen. When I am using > repl with screen I cannot scroll up down with konsole or xterm. Without > screen works fine in konsole or xterm. > Is there other people with problem with screen and s

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

It did go on too long. I hope when someone \does read it, they will see I am not being wholly unreasonable. On Jul 6, 7:21 pm, Ken Wesson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:06 PM, nchubrich wrote: > > As to making contributions, I just pointed out an example of someone > > who made a contri

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

On Jul 6, 5:34 pm, Conrad Taylor wrote: > Hi, what's the correct way to define an else clause of a cond form? > For example, > > a) > > (cond >    (= total 20) 8.75 >    (or (amount > 20) (= country "US") 9.75) >    (else 10.0)) > > b) > > (cond >    (= total 20) 8.75 >    (or (amount > 20) (= cou

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

Could you please post the entire form, including the code surrounding the cond form (since total, amount, and country need to be defined somewhere)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegr

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

And I thought my posts were long :) Luc P. On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:26:04 -0700 (PDT) nchubrich wrote: > It did go on too long. I hope when someone \does read it, they will > see I am not being wholly unreasonable. > > On Jul 6, 7:21 pm, Ken Wesson wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:0

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

On Jul 6, 7:16 pm, David Sletten wrote: > Conrad, > > The syntax of 'cond' is actually pretty straightforward. Following the symbol > 'cond' you have pairs of predicate forms and consequent expressions. The > 'cond' form evaluates each predicate in turn until one evaluates to true and > then re

Re: Clojure for large programs

On 7 July 2011 09:39, Zach Tellman wrote: > I agree that namespaces should be designed to be consumed, but that can be > pretty taxing on the developer. In my libraries, I tend to split the > functions into whatever sub-namespaces I want to keep the organization easy > for me, and then import al

Re: I cannot scroll up down REPL in konsole

I am using a vim script called Vicleto send lines to screen repl. This is the reason why I use screen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, Benny Tsai wrote: > Could you please post the entire form, including the code surrounding the > cond form (since total, amount, and country need to be defined somewhere)? Benny, that was just sample code to zero in on the initial issue. I'm working through the SICP with a lot

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

You have some rogue text cluttering your cond statement. Remove the question mark... or whatever this is...  and you'll be fine. On Jul 6, 8:58 pm, Conrad Taylor wrote: > On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, Benny Tsai wrote: > > > Could you please post the entire form, including the code surrounding the > > c

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Tim Robinson wrote: > You have some rogue text cluttering your cond statement. > Remove the question mark... or whatever this is... > >  > > and you'll be fine. Whatever WHAT is? There's nothing in your post there but three blank lines. -- Protege: What is this

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Conrad Taylor wrote: > On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, Benny Tsai wrote: >> Could you please post the entire form, including the code surrounding the >> cond form (since total, amount, and country need to be defined somewhere)? > > Benny, that was just sample code to zero in on

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

Lol. not sure what to tell you... on Mac OSX Firefox I see what looks like this -- - OBJ - -- in the middle line, but really really really small. and when I copy his text and paste at the repl, I get his same error. When I remove it its not a problem. On Jul 6, 9:07 pm, Ken

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

On Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:06:30 PM UTC-6, Tim Robinson wrote: > > You have some rogue text cluttering your cond statement. > Remove the question mark... or whatever this is... > >  > > and you'll be fine. > That's what I encountered too. Conrad, when I pasted your code into emacs, there

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

On Jul 6, 8:08 pm, David Sletten wrote: > On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Conrad Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, Benny Tsai wrote: > >> Could you please post the entire form, including the code surrounding the > >> cond form (since total, amount, and country need to be defined

Re: I cannot scroll up down REPL in konsole

Antonio, Apologies if this is obvious to you, but screen eats your scrollback lines. You can't use the terminal program's scroll bars; you've got to enter screen's copy mode to view history. It's a little jarring at first, but with the vim-style navigation keys & the ease of copying it allows, cop

Re: Collaboration Proposal: Beyond CLOS Generic Methods, Predicate Dispatch, and Pattern Matching

How's the progress on this project going? During my spare time I've been reading through some of the logic programming literature, trying to learn about this, but there is still much to learn. While I could spend hours continuing to read the literature, I feel it might be more productive to get dir

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Ken Wesson wrote: > Does the term "tl;dr" mean anything to you? I'll remember this date - I find myself really liking / agreeing with one of Ken's posts :) Sorry nchubrich but that really was far too long - I started reading but couldn't find any meat in the first

Re: I cannot scroll up down REPL in konsole

@Perry: You are right, when screen is in copy mode (Ctrl + a + [) the scrollback works. Solved. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

I'll try :) It was really a polemical post for a polemical thread, but my main points can be extracted here. Feel free to read as many or as few of them as you are inclined: * Clojure still ends up turning off new users more than it needs to. This may be partly an issue of priorities (see the Ge

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

Much better. Now I can read it and see your points... and respond... On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:42 PM, nchubrich wrote: > * Clojure still ends up turning off new users more than it needs to. I think we need to nail the intro / setup experience and I'm nailing my colors to Leiningen. I think that

Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

@nchubrich > It did go on too long.  I hope when someone \does read it, they will > see I am not being wholly unreasonable. i liked to read through it anyway ... >>I was drawn to Clojure because I felt it was another >>evolutionary step in programming. I hope I am not wrong. i feel and hop

Re: Correct way to define the else clause of a cond form?

Ken Wesson writes: Hi! >> Remove the question mark... or whatever this is... >> >>  >> >> and you'll be fine. > > Whatever WHAT is? There's nothing in your post there but three blank > lines. Sure there is! ;-) , | character:  (65532, #o14, #xfffc) | preferred charset: unicod