Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-29 Thread sai rinkai
CLOOJ is the best. Simple, efficient, no installation, everything you need (of course you also need lein). If you want to have headaches trying everything around you'd better do it after have learned the basics otherwise you may give up believe me. http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/getting+star

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-27 Thread Chris Ford
When considering the availability of a debugger, keep in mind that your workflow might be different when you code Clojure compared to how you approach Java, Ruby etc. Because functions require less context to run than methods of an object, I find that experimenting at the REPL (or rather executing

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-27 Thread Phil Hagelberg
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Walter van der Laan wrote: > Stepping through the execution is harder to setup but it might be possible. > The CDT debugger can be set up as described here > http://georgejahad.com/clojure/swank-cdt.html. It worked great for me at > some point but I'm no longer usi

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-27 Thread Yves Parès
Did you look at what vimclojure (+ nailgun server + lein vimclojure plugin) currently provides? It doesn't use nrepl yet, but I'd be curious to know how its features relate to emacs' clojure plugins, and also how their features may be valuable when it comes to working with noir/compojure/ring. T

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-27 Thread Walter van der Laan
It is possible to execute forms in a debugging context but AFAIK there is no easy setup that allows you to step through the execution. The easiest way to evaluate forms in context is to setup emacs as described here http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/emacs.html. This will allow you to se

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-26 Thread Sol Tourne
> You could consider lighttable  I have tried it, and liked much of it, but it doesn't (or at least didn't) have anything like a debugger allowing one to step through the execution (and poke around in intermediate stage of the computation)... -- You received this message because you are subs

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-26 Thread Sol Tourne
> In your list, the only thing you won't be able to do with Eclipse is > executing clojure forms in the context of the breakpoint.  Thanks, that's very useful info.  Is that doable in emacs? (ie 'executing clojure forms in the context of the breakpoint'.) The answers so far emphasize emacs'

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-26 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Laurent PETIT wrote: > My advice: don't try to learn too much at once. Eclipse+counterclockwise > (and probably Intellij+La Clojure) lets you start right away hacking > clojure. They are specifically designed to be newbie friendly Postpone > the decision of bec

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-26 Thread Frederik De Bleser
+ 1 for Light Table. The instarepl is a very useful tool for learning and exploring Clojure. F Op zondag 25 november 2012 22:00:36 UTC+1 schreef René Groß het volgende: > > You could consider lighttable by chris granger as well. It is at a very > early stage, but pretty much usable for hacking

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-25 Thread René Groß
You could consider lighttable by chris granger as well. It is at a very early stage, but pretty much usable for hacking some clojure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note t

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-25 Thread René Groß
You could consider lighttable by chris granger as well. It is at a very early stage, but pretty much usable for hacking some clojure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note t

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-25 Thread Laurent PETIT
On Nov 25, 2012 6:47 PM, "Jonathan Fischer Friberg" wrote: > > Personally, I don't like using an integrated environment. I opt for > an editor + terminal instead. Therefore, I have very limited knowledge > about the things you are asking for (debugging, evaluating ...). > Even so, I'll try to summ

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-25 Thread Laurent PETIT
On Nov 25, 2012 5:41 PM, "Sol Tourne" wrote: > > > hello -- > > There are a few resources out there to help one getting started with emacs+clojure, eclipse+ccw, etc. but I haven't found so far a resource helping me decide which learning curve to climb: the pros and cons of sweating to learn eclips

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-25 Thread Dennis Haupt
can you give a few examples that should convince a lot of people on the spot? Am 25.11.2012 17:57, schrieb Jay Fields: > I spent 3 years doing Clojure (for prod apps) in IntelliJ. 3 months ago > I switched to emacs - and would never go back. > > If the idea of customizing your dev environment to

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-25 Thread Jay Fields
I spent 3 years doing Clojure (for prod apps) in IntelliJ. 3 months ago I switched to emacs - and would never go back. If the idea of customizing your dev environment to automate repetitive tasks is appealing to you, start learning emacs immediately. I deeply regret not learning emacs earlier.