Re: Mailing List Decorum

2011-10-15 Thread Sam Aaron
Sorry, accidentally hit the send mail key combo! Here's the completed email... On 15 Oct 2011, at 23:14, Rich Hickey wrote: > > Your last bit confuses me. You certainly are making something > wonderful in, and for, Clojure with Overtone. I don't know where I > said or implied anything about the d

Re: Mailing List Decorum

2011-10-15 Thread Sam Aaron
On 15 Oct 2011, at 23:14, Rich Hickey wrote: > Your last bit confuses me. You certainly are making something > wonderful in, and for, Clojure with Overtone. I don't know where I > said or implied anything about the discussions being only about making > tools or solving hard problems. My apologie

Re: Mailing List Decorum

2011-10-15 Thread Rich Hickey
It's difficult to have a policy of "positive opinions only" without engendering non-productive discussions about censorship etc. The main message is one of consideration. You might have positive opinions about say, music, and I might be interested in them, but our discussing music here wouldn't be

Re: Mailing List Decorum

2011-10-15 Thread Sam Aaron
Devlin, I totally agree with you :-) I read the core of the post in a similar fashion and I respect and agree with the general notion. However, my perception of the tone of the message was that it felt slightly 'anti-opinion' whereas I believe that constructive positive opinion has an extremely

Re: Mailing List Decorum

2011-10-15 Thread Devin Walters
Aaron, I can't speak for Rich but I don't think I read the original post the same way you did. I think the big point being made (and one I agree with) is that we should try, to the best of our ability, to keep our focus on the constructive. Diatribes and/or opinion pieces are less constructive,

Re: Mailing List Decorum

2011-10-15 Thread Sam Aaron
While I understand and respect the importance of focussing discussions to the making of things, surely there is more to a community communication substrate than this sole category of topic. Do these guidelines, therefore, attempt preclude threads such as the discussion on the possible impact o

Mailing List Decorum

2011-10-15 Thread Rich Hickey
This is just a reminder. While in general our communication here is very good, occasionally it goes astray. These mailing lists are run by, and for, people who make things. Most messages should have one of these forms: I made something - here is my contribution I am trying to use the thing some