Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread James
Chris, Sean: No Clojure dojos here but I'll be moving camp soon and will likely start one myself. I'd like to hear what structure of dojo meetings have people used with success? Is it more or less like this: http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~gpollice/Dojo.html ? / James On May 14, 10:21 pm, Sean Corfiel

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread James
Thanks Sean. I'll honor the Contributor's Agreement when time comes for me to introduce some brilliant feature to Clojure core :-) / James On May 14, 7:53 pm, Sean Corfield wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:41 AM, James wrote: > > thanks for the feedback. To jump in and start augmenting non-

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread Sean Corfield
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Chris Ford wrote: > Are there any Clojure dojos near where you live? We have a monthly one in > London, which is a great way for people of different experience levels to > come together. FYI, the guy who used to run the London Clojure dojo - Toby Clemson - is now

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread Chris Ford
Are there any Clojure dojos near where you live? We have a monthly one in London, which is a great way for people of different experience levels to come together. Cheers, Chris On 14 May 2012 12:45, James wrote: > When a new technology (a programming language) comes out, initially > there are

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread Yan King Yin, 甄景贤
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:45 PM, James wrote: > When a new technology (a programming language) comes out, initially > there are very few people who are really proficient in it. One can > learn by one's own, but tremendous learning acceleration can be gained > if one pairs with more experienced de

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread Jason Jackson
This might not sound glamorous, but reading books, and reading great code, and code reviews is a great way to get up to speed. The explanations found in the Joy of Clojure, and other books have been highly edited and refined; if I ever paired up with someone, I doubt my ad-hoc verbal explanation

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread Sean Corfield
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:41 AM, James wrote: > thanks for the feedback. To jump in and start augmenting non-trivial > Clojure code sounds like a serious task. I think the prerequisite for > that would be to be able to read and write trivial Clojure code, which > is where I'm at right now! > > Bu

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread James
Hi David,- thanks for the feedback. To jump in and start augmenting non-trivial Clojure code sounds like a serious task. I think the prerequisite for that would be to be able to read and write trivial Clojure code, which is where I'm at right now! But I'll definitely study the libraries you propo

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread David Nolen
James, Another way - I would recommend contributing to one of the Clojure contrib libraries or an open source Clojure project. It's a great way to familiarize yourself with non-trivial Clojure code, get feedback and offer something up to the community. You'll definitely get feedback from me if yo

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread James
PS. My last post wasn't clearly formulated, so let me re-phrase that: I think that paying clojure/core to pair up is a perfectly legit solution if one wants to jump ahead of the curve. My point was that I wish the "sweeping the dojo" model was more widespread (one does whatever other work there is

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread James
Hi Jay,- I agree, paying to sweep someone's dojo does sound a bit strong. / James On May 14, 3:24 pm, Jay Fields wrote: > James, > For learning, I'd recommend 4clojure.com and compare your solutions with > solutions submitted by other people. Also, if you have the cash, you could > pay clojure/

Re: Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread Jay Fields
James, For learning, I'd recommend 4clojure.com and compare your solutions with solutions submitted by other people. Also, if you have the cash, you could pay clojure/core to pair with you. Unfortunately, I've never heard of anyone doing that kind of thing as a mutually beneficial situation - (you

Clojure beginner in search of peer-induced enlightenment

2012-05-14 Thread James
When a new technology (a programming language) comes out, initially there are very few people who are really proficient in it. One can learn by one's own, but tremendous learning acceleration can be gained if one pairs with more experienced devs than oneself. So I'd like to ask: is there any place