Re: Clojure/JVM languages internal presentation

2011-01-23 Thread Sean Corfield
Thank you for sharing this Rob! I've recently gone thru a similar process with a company and we ended up introducing both Scala and Clojure, for different purposes, although we didn't have a large team to convince (so I didn't need to do as much work to get the changes accepted :) I love the compa

Re: Clojure/JVM languages internal presentation

2011-01-19 Thread Robert Campbell
Hi Shantanu, Good questions. > Can you share some details about the language selection process? Was it based > on developers consensus or it was a purely management decision? Was the > presence or absence of enough number of Clojure/Scala experts in the team > influential on the eventual decis

Re: Clojure/JVM languages internal presentation

2011-01-18 Thread Nick Zbinden
> I can't speak for the original poster, but it seems like a fair > assessment to me.  Scala is, as you point out, more complicated in > many ways than Clojure.  But there is a subset of Scala that looks and > behaves very similarly to Java.  It is possible for a Java programmer > to make the tran

Re: Clojure/JVM languages internal presentation

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Engelberg
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Shantanu Kumar wrote: > To help me understand, would you like to share how was this conclusion > derived ("Clojure - being a Lisp dialect - has a steeper learning > curve due to its syntax and more purely functional nature.")? Scala > has more syntax/semantics tha

Re: Clojure/JVM languages internal presentation

2011-01-18 Thread Shantanu Kumar
Rob, thanks for sharing this and congratulations on having IDC (your employer IIUC) adopting an alternate JVM language. Can you share some details about the language selection process? Was it based on developers consensus or it was a purely management decision? Was the presence or absence of enough

Clojure/JVM languages internal presentation

2011-01-17 Thread Robert Campbell
Hey guys, This past summer I gave a presentation on JVM langauges at our company's worldwide developer summit. I tried to get approval for Clojure but had to settle for Scala because its syntax didn't frighten management. I figured I'd share it in case any of the slides can be of use elsewhere. o