This thread needs to end, it's no longer productive.
Fluid Dynamics - file a ticket for CCW with information useful for
addressing the problem if you have it. Otherwise, I do not think there is
anything left that anyone can help you with here.
Everyone else - thank your for all the helpful co
Try to give Eclipse more memory like this:
eclipse.exe -vm e:\jdk8\bin\javaw.exe -vmargs -Xms2048m -Xmx4096m
2014-11-01 13:12 GMT+08:00 Fluid Dynamics :
> On Saturday, November 1, 2014 12:09:33 AM UTC-4, Dylan Butman wrote:
>>
>> Is it hard to actually send the log? Are you purposefully uncooper
On Saturday, November 1, 2014 12:09:33 AM UTC-4, Dylan Butman wrote:
>
> Is it hard to actually send the log? Are you purposefully uncooperative to
> people trying to help?
>
My inspection of the log indicates that the amount of information
(namespace names, other things) about what I'm working
Is it hard to actually send the log? Are you purposefully uncooperative to
people trying to help?
> On Oct 31, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
>
>> On Friday, October 31, 2014 11:44:49 PM UTC-4, Luc wrote:
>> I'll repeat myself :
>>
>> '...guessing which error is
>> relevant or no
On Friday, October 31, 2014 11:44:49 PM UTC-4, Luc wrote:
>
> I'll repeat myself :
>
> '...guessing which error is
> relevant or not is an educated guess at best except if you are deep in
> Eclipse plugins coding.'
>
> Laurent stated clearly that saving
> a file triggers a number of things
>
I'll repeat myself :
'...guessing which error is
relevant or not is an educated guess at best except if you are deep in
Eclipse plugins coding.'
Laurent stated clearly that saving
a file triggers a number of things
in several plugins.
There could be suspicious messages in the log
that have not
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
>
> It's not *my* fault the log file doesn't contain anything unusual between
> before the hang happened and after recovery. If CCW didn't log anything
> that helps indicate what was different or unusual on that occasion of
> saving, then the
On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:23:42 PM UTC-4, Luc wrote:
>
> Just curious, how can you expect a fix if you do not provide any
> information that
> could support a serious investigation ?
>
> I read the eclipse log file from time to time and guessing which error is
> relevant or not is an educat
Just curious, how can you expect a fix if you do not provide any information
that
could support a serious investigation ?
I read the eclipse log file from time to time and guessing which error is
relevant or not is an educated guess at best except if you are deep in
Eclipse plugins coding.
Creat
On Friday, October 31, 2014 2:24:04 PM UTC-4, Laurent PETIT wrote:
>
> Also, if you can attach the workspace's .metadata/.log file, I can take a
> look at it.
>
I have no idea how to reproduce it, which is part of the problem: I don't
know what to avoid doing, in order to ensure it doesn't happ
Hello,
I'm the main CCW developer.
I have double checked the source code, and can confirm that the save
mechanism is handled by Eclipse. So one can expect it to be as stable as
every other save action performed in the Eclipse IDE.
There are a number of listeners that are triggered after the Save
+1. When I first read that post I thought he was joking!
On Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:19:29 UTC, Marcus Blankenship wrote:
>
> Agreed. I've been amazed at how kind this group has been, despite your
> attitude of disrespect toward them.
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Dylan Butman > wro
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:50:11 PM UTC-4, Alan Moore wrote:
>
>
>> CCW's local history seems more than adequate for my needs in that area,
>> combined with occasional HDD backups.
>>
>
> This is a great idea - I was going to suggest it myself. I sometimes make
> backup copies of small proj
>
>
> CCW's local history seems more than adequate for my needs in that area,
> combined with occasional HDD backups.
>
This is a great idea - I was going to suggest it myself. I sometimes make
backup copies of small project directories such as yours just using cp -r
myproject myproject.bak -
I version everything. I don't version something because it's huge, or
important, or shared, or even worth sharing. I version because Git is an
important and widely-used tool, and because it's better than regular
saving. You've already downloaded and learned at least one programming
language, yo
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Dylan Butman wrote:
>
> This still sounds like a case of "I haven't learned how to use git yet,
> and although that means I can't possibly understand how it might improve my
> workflow, I don't want to take the time to learn a fundamental piece of
>
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:19:00 PM UTC-4, raould wrote:
>
> > I remain wholly unconvinced that it's worth the hassle for a project
> this
> > small.
>
> personally i find your points persuasive; i hate going through that
> stuff when i just wanted to finish a feature or whatever. still,
>
I think root of the advice you are getting is "keep backups of important
files".
If you don't keep backups of important files, you are asking for trouble,
even if every piece of software on your computer has no bugs.
Andy
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
> On Tuesday, Oct
Can we please stop feeding the troll? Thanks.
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This still sounds like a case of "I haven't learned how to use git yet, and
although that means I can't possibly understand how it might improve my
workflow, I don't want to take the time to learn a fundamental piece of
software that's used by the vast majority of the programming community."
O
> I remain wholly unconvinced that it's worth the hassle for a project this
> small.
personally i find your points persuasive; i hate going through that
stuff when i just wanted to finish a feature or whatever. still,
losing your code would suck a lot, and not having history can be a
frustrating t
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:01:47 PM UTC-4, Charlie Griefer wrote:
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Fluid Dynamics > wrote:
>
> Meanwhile, I think some people still have not grasped the scale of what
> I'm doing, namely how small it is. Small, experimental, limited to one
> person, and so f
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
>
> Meanwhile, I think some people still have not grasped the scale of what I'm
> doing, namely how small it is. Small, experimental, limited to one person,
> and so forth. Version control, I repeat, would be MASSIVE overkill under the
> ci
Ka-plonk :)
> Do the names Ken Wesson or Cedric Greevey mean anything to you? Just
> checking.
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:19:29 PM UTC-4, Marcus Blankenship wrote:
> >>
> >> Agreed. I've been amazed at how kind this group h
I think you are missing the point of the "backlash" (my word).
Nobody is arguing that the functionality (e.g. crash) you are seeing isn't
troublesome. A few people tried to mitigate that by suggesting workarounds
*whilst still accepting the functionality isn't sufficient*. I haven't read
a sing
Do the names Ken Wesson or Cedric Greevey mean anything to you? Just
checking.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:19:29 PM UTC-4, Marcus Blankenship wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. I've been amazed at how kind this group has been, despite your
>> attit
What I grasp is that you had a problem with free, open source software which
has the version number of 0.29.0, and you were upset because that it crashed in
a way which could have damaged your project. Then others tried to offer
solutions, which you felt were ridiculous (based on your analogies
*plonk*
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:19:29 PM UTC-4, Marcus Blankenship wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. I've been amazed at how kind this group has been, despite your
>> attitude of disrespect toward them.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:09 AM, D
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:19:29 PM UTC-4, Marcus Blankenship wrote:
>
> Agreed. I've been amazed at how kind this group has been, despite your
> attitude of disrespect toward them.
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Dylan Butman > wrote:
>
>> From your attitude and lack of respect for
Agreed. I've been amazed at how kind this group has been, despite your
attitude of disrespect toward them.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Dylan Butman wrote:
> From your attitude and lack of respect for the very knowledgeable,
> experienced, and respectful people here trying to help improve a
>From your attitude and lack of respect for the very knowledgeable,
experienced, and respectful people here trying to help improve and
understand the short comings in your current workflow, I'd say you might be
walking to work in the near future. Parking's free that way.
On Monday, October 27,
IntelliJ definitely does this, and since it also saves automatically (on
losing focus, or on events like running something, or on 5 secs of
inactivity) you get a very fine-grained history. I love this feature, I
don't miss manual file saving at all. It basically works like a lightweight
automatic V
On Monday, October 27, 2014 11:45:47 AM UTC-4, tbc++ wrote:
>
> Whenever someone has suggested something (using git, submitting a bug
> report), you've replied (paraphrase) "meh, I can't be bothered".
>
The former suggestion, especially, seems excessively heavyweight for the
particular circumsta
On Monday, October 27, 2014 10:21:35 AM UTC-5, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
>
>
>>
> I'm not going through the ritual of check-in and check-back-out every
> single time I'd normally hit control-S. Too much friction, too much
> work-that-isn't-development.
>
Doesn't Eclipse already have a local file
Fluid Dynamics writes:
>> Really, you expect me to create an account and publish every little
>> > bit of code I play around with on github?
>>
>> Publication of code for VCS isn't really necessary. RCS which was
>> released in 1982 didn't require it (actually, didn't support it). With
>> the
Whenever someone has suggested something (using git, submitting a bug
report), you've replied (paraphrase) "meh, I can't be bothered". Okay,
that's fine, is it also okay if we reply to your bug report with "meh, we
can't be bothered"?
I'm sure many people here are willing to help with your problem
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
> Objection: relevance? The OP specifically suggested github,
git != github
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub
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On Monday, October 27, 2014 5:05:55 AM UTC-4, Phillip Lord wrote:
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> Fluid Dynamics > writes:
>
> > On Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:42:24 PM UTC-4, tbc++ wrote:
> >>
> >> "What if my file had been corrupted, or truncated and only the first 42
> >> bytes of the new version written thus far, or
Fluid Dynamics writes:
> On Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:42:24 PM UTC-4, tbc++ wrote:
>>
>> "What if my file had been corrupted, or truncated and only the first 42
>> bytes of the new version written thus far, or something like that at the
>> moment when the hang started?"
>>
>> So there's thi
Note that any of those operations you're talking about under the general
heading of "I/O tasks" are very complex in a modern IDE, and there are a
lot of seemingly unrelated code paths where a bug or some sort of
unexpected condition might cause an infinite loop. And as a lot of people
have noted, t
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:50:15 AM UTC-4, puzzler wrote:
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> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Fluid Dynamics > wrote:
>
>> This is a really weird one, when you think about it. How the heck does a
>> programmer make a mistake that results in the *file save* function going
>> into an *infinit
Notepad is relatively bug free.
>
>>
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On Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:19:12 PM UTC-7, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
>
> On Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:07:16 AM UTC-4, David Della Costa wrote:
>>
>> Here's the counterclockwise project home pag
a) you should rant about programmer(s). Exactly which one 'made a mistake'
remains to
be proven.
b) Eclipse is a complex IDE, CCW runs on top of it as a plugin, it's at the
mercy of the
other pieces it depends on to run correctly. Stating who made the mistake
requires
some deep digg
You should demand your money back. Oh, wait ...
Jony
On Sunday, 26 October 2014 02:38:11 UTC, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
>
> Would somebody mind explaining to me why I just had CCW 0.28.1.STABLE001
> hang with 100% CPU usage when I edited this line:
>
> := (= v cr
>
> to t
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
> This is a really weird one, when you think about it. How the heck does a
> programmer make a mistake that results in the *file save* function going
> into an *infinite loop*? At least it didn't go into an infinite loop
> filling my filesys
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:07:16 AM UTC-4, David Della Costa wrote:
>
> Here's the counterclockwise project home page, as far as I can tell:
>
> https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/
>
> Issue tracker:
>
> https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/issues/list
>
> Users google group:
Here's the counterclockwise project home page, as far as I can tell:
https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/
Issue tracker:
https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/issues/list
Users google group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/clojuredev-users
I think you'd get a lot more mile
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 1:04:49 AM UTC-4, danneu wrote:
>
> Fluid Dynamics wrote:
>
>> I do not ever want to see anything purportedly "STABLE" do something like
>> that ever again
>>
>
> There are a lot of things I do not ever want to see.
>
> I don't want to see debt collectors or clojure st
On Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:42:24 PM UTC-4, tbc++ wrote:
>
> "What if my file had been corrupted, or truncated and only the first 42
> bytes of the new version written thus far, or something like that at the
> moment when the hang started?"
>
> So there's this new cool thing out there called
Fluid Dynamics wrote:
> I do not ever want to see anything purportedly "STABLE" do something like
> that ever again
>
There are a lot of things I do not ever want to see.
I don't want to see debt collectors or clojure stacktraces or my uncle
Frank.
Unfortunately, demanding that I don't see t
"What if my file had been corrupted, or truncated and only the first 42
bytes of the new version written thus far, or something like that at the
moment when the hang started?"
So there's this new cool thing out there called a "version control system".
One of the more popular programs in this categ
Would somebody mind explaining to me why I just had CCW 0.28.1.STABLE001
hang with 100% CPU usage when I edited this line:
:= (= v cr
to this:
= (= v cr
and then hit control-S?
I do not ever want to see anything purportedly "STABLE" do so
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