Oupse 😬
I went a bit too fast on this post... sorry...
Probably a sudden drop of caffein in my blood 😂
That or I did not screw my head properly this morning 🤪🔨👈
Thank you Sean
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Hi Arturo,
this is how I work. Fully remote.B2B. Send me an email at
lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca if you want us to discuss further.
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down further on this path.
I will change the macro code here accordingly.
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On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:22:18 UTC, Nicola Mometto wrote:
>
> The code that caused this issue is
>
> https://github.com/clojure/clojure/commit/a1c3dafec01ab02fb10d91f9
Should have posted this instead, same protocol.
(defprotocol Anonymous (start-job! [this]))
;; Clojure 1.8.0
=> (defrecord NoopJob []
Anonymous
(start-job! [this]
(yabug.services.logger/environment)))
(clojure.core/zipmap '(__meta this __extmap) [__meta this __extmap])
yabug.jobs
a this __hasheq __extmap)
[__hash __meta this __hasheq __extmap])))
yabug.jobs.noop.NoopJob
Grr...
Will sleep on it and toy with it tomorrow by expanding a bit the test
cases. It's nearly 22:00 Morocco time here.
I need a break and some sleep.
Luc P.
On Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:0
Miller wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Luc > wrote:
>
>
>> here it is, I did not get through the compiler source code yet, it might
>> be obvious to you:
>>
>> java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: Can't type hint a primitive
&
zen projects to upgrade to 1.9 :) It's bizarre at best.
Thank you,
Luc P.
On Saturday, 30 December 2017 00:17:47 UTC, Luc wrote:
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> here it is, I did not get through the compiler source code yet, it might
> be obvious to you:
>
> java.lang.Unsupported
f it can be reproduced at
runtime and post the result here.
I need to revive some setups, it's a project that had been put on ice for a
while.
Thank you, Happy New Year,
Luc
On Friday, 29 December 2017 01:02:51 UTC, Alex Miller wrote:
>
> What’s the full stack trace on the original exceptio
ure that was tolerated so far ?
I looked at the macro expansion of the defrecord but did not find anything
wrong on the surface.
Note that I did not yet attempt to run this project from source. That's
forthcoming but I would expect
it to crash at runtime..
Any idea is welcomed.
Thank
Hi,
Peruse github and read some code until you can find an anchor point to get you
started. You might find some problem/need solved that relates to
some of your past experience and allows you to train with ‘real’ code.
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At least 7-10 times less code on average. Except for UIs, UIs are naturally
bloated code wise 😬
I spend much more time thinking about solving problems and testing than writing
code.
It was the reverse in other languages. And refactoring is a piece of cake, no
need for these heavy tools found in
The other unpleasant option to climb the learning curve asap is to end up with
a deadline to spit out a product 😬
I did it, 5 months of pure Hell 😈
After that the pain went away, either my brain adapted or my nervous system
could not feel it anymore,
can't remember 🤣
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My 2 cents.
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We AOT often dependent projects.
We are very careful meeting the exclusions suggestions reported
by lein deps :tree.
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That emacs joke gets my week started with some abdominal pain 😂😂
I support strictness 😬
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I remember this problem but this is
an eclipse bug if my memory is not
failing. They had removed Marketplace
by mistake.
Are you using the latest version of Eclipse ?
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> whereas you, as far as I can tell, have never written any, means that his
> opinion holds a lot more weight in this discussion, for me at least.
>
>> On 20 July 2015 at 14:45, Luc Prefontaine
>> wrote:
>>
>> --- advanced warning: the following section contain
e writing of a patch and its application
> to the code base, a lot of them already need to be rebased/rewritten
> to apply cleanly, often multiple times.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Luc Prefontaine
> wrote:
>> Sure, indentation is what gets the code running on metal :))
&
emailed
comments/complaints as is and anonymously if asked for.
Some are stamp collectors, I could start an original collection of my own.
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> On Jul 19, 2015, at 09:36, Colin Fleming wrote:
>
>> On 18 July 2015 at 19:54, Luc Préfontaine
>> wrote:
>
I agree with you but changes like this need time to bloom and are motivated by
increased pressure to release.
We have been seeing more of that in the last year.
Linus did not find solid maintainers day one. You need to test drive
individuals before you can delegate significant chunks and not wo
nt on this, it was not addressed to
you personally.
Just zap.
He can rant on me on this mailing list, I will not whine about it. I'm made
though.
Kumbaya...
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> On Jul 19, 2015, at 04:21, Max Gonzih wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at
reluctant to log a ticket and
submit a patch
instead of ranting about it.
This is the main point you missed. That 'entry barrier' of yours does not stand
with Linux.
I would think hard about the reasons behind these numbers.
There has to be some value added in the process of submitting patch
tain sure I would not use Rails or Ruby for this purpose.
Luc P.
Luc P.
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> On Jul 18, 2015, at 14:32, Bozhidar Batsov wrote:
>
>> On 18 July 2015 at 20:18, Luc Prefontaine
>> wrote:
>> Aaah ! The pull request looms again :)
>>
>> A bug trac
's no free lunch but many people would like one.
To me it boils down to this question:
Can the needs of one person compromise a group effort ?
I don't think so. But this is only my opinion.
Luc P.
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> On Jul 18, 2015, at 13:32, Andrey Antukh wrote:
>
>
>
&
bout the emails exchanged on the
mailing list.
Suggestions are certainly looked upon and discussed upstream. It does not mean
that they will be considered
worth to investigate/implement or they may come out differently (that ego thing
looming again).
+1 for Jira and patches.
Luc P.
On Sat, 18 Ju
nux likewise.
Search for Linus rants about contributors and try to relate this with the level
of success of Linux.
They are not so many open source projects that have the same stability from
release to release as Clojure or Linux.
Control and absence of complacency are key factors to achieve this
u have
> to use correct charset for i18n application :-)
>
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:56 PM Luc Préfontaine
>> wrote:
>> I cannot remember the details but in 2010 I had similar problem in a
>> cross-platform project
>> using Clojure. And problems earlier i
me unreadable binary format.
Googled a bit about this and numerous people face this problem reading windows
generated
files. They all ended up having to skip the BOM if present when reading the
file.
So much for portability. Beurk.
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Luc Préfontaine <
>
have a BOM. You can do this on a per file basis using
an IDE
(Eclipse, ...) or if you can use bash scripts to do this if you have access to
a u*x environment.
I did not find an equivalent native windows tool but they might be some to do
this in batch.
Luc P.
> Of course not. My files do
Windows a problem ?
N, impossible :)))
Luc P.
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> On Jul 12, 2015, at 19:39, Sungjin Chun wrote:
>
> On Mac OS X (Yosemite) and Linux (Ubuntu), this code works well (I'm using
> en_US.UTF-8 as
> charset and encoding for my system).
>
> I su
Create an external tool command (lein eastwood) perhaps ?
Sorry, could not resist :)
Luc P.
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> On Jul 7, 2015, at 15:21, JPatrick Davenport wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I want to use the linter within Eclipse. I followed the instructions for both
> the plugin man
at the phantomjs folder in the project.
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> On Jul 1, 2015, at 00:03, Nathan Marz wrote:
>
> I figured out a way to do it by manually launching a ClojureScript REPL,
> writing a test runner script, and then invoking that script at the REPL, like
I had to query it myself not knowing what this site was all about,
nice tutorial, I think I understood it :)
Luc P.
> raould,
>
> I find lmgtfy links to be a condescending way to answer a question and I
> would prefer that we not use them on this list. If you have an answer or
t yet.
Luc P.
> Hi Gary, lein does appear to support it as lein test some-test-in-cljc works,
> just not if I do ‘lein test’. Is this expected? I am running 2.5.1
>
> > On 19 Jun 2015, at 14:46, Gary Trakhman wrote:
> >
> > Leiningen needs to support cljc, right
Btwy,
For is not a loop as in imperative languages. It returns a lazy sequence.
Luc P.
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> On Jun 18, 2015, at 07:51, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying boot scripting capabilities so I have the following file:
>
> #!/u
For is lazy. Replace it with doseq.
Use doseq when you want side effects to occur and do not need
a result.
Luc P.
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> On Jun 18, 2015, at 07:51, Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying boot scripting capabilities so I have the following file:
>
I agree. I can't see how you can build a business model out of this.
We already lower the cost for our customers by using open source as much as
possible.
Luc P.
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> On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:16, Colin Fleming wrote:
>
> I'm the author of Cursive, which I
nment. Our up times are insane.
Yahoo !
Luc
> On Jun 4, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Luc Prefontaine
> wrote:
> > Still 3 months away from production beta.
>
> I get twitchy if we go more than two weeks between production builds — but
> then it’s the web :)
>
> Sean Corfield --
simplification of front end/back
end code.
That's a huge relief on my nervous system :)
For the first time in many years I enjoy working on a web front end... finally.
Thank you all,
Luc P.
On Thu, 21 May 2015 11:30:47 -0500
Alex Miller wrote:
> Clojure 1.7.0-RC1 is now available.
>
&
to the why not, I am eager to see them.
In general your mileage will vary depending on your needs.
This is the real answer to many of the 'do not do this' so named 'rules'.
Luc P.
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> On May 29, 2015, at 08:02, piastkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Stua
We systematically use refer all on tools.trace and a few other of our name
spaces used for production support.
It becomes handy in a live repl in production.
Luc P.
> I agree with the general sentiment expressed here, but would just like to
> add that `:refer`-ing a few frequentl
different way
to manage this however.
Luc P.
> Thanks for the feedback guys. Another related Q: The user needs to require
> the namespace that those defmethods are defined in for the multi to know
> about it. Presumably each defmethods will be in individual files, meaning
> the user ha
x27;permanent' place.
We have been doing this for years to shrink build times. We AOT most of our
code base.
Luc P.
> I'll just say one more time that the team should really consider doing
> bug-fix releases in the future. This problem sounds serious enough to be
> handled
when the service expires. Oups...
Second thing, use doseq, not for if you want the side effects do be done in
your notify fn. for will not get your side effects done, it only returns a lazy
seq.
Luc P.
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> On May 8, 2015, at 08:01, Alexey Astafyev wrote:
>
> I'm
I certainly have some personality disorders, but I am not bipolar :)
What am I ? Help ! :)
Luc P.
> > And never has this author proven that programmers with bipolar
> personality are
> > programming more LISP then other languages.
>
> It's a metaphor. The author
t 10:51:35 AM UTC-4, Luc wrote:
> >
> > Spawned from the other thread about web frameworks.
> >
> > Can any of the original maintainers answer this one ?
> >
>
> According to that same other thread, it has 2 developers on it, not 0. If
> it's f
Spawned from the other thread about web frameworks.
Can any of the original maintainers answer this one ?
Thank you
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breaks in obscure ways
after an upgrade and requires mods in remote places in foreign code.
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> The thing that bugs me the most about these sort of conversations about
> "best practices" is that they often present a set of solutions without
> first analyzing the problem at
brain power
to tear down/recompose things and stop thinking that processes, normalization,
herd tagging,
etc can lead us to work more efficiently. Processes, conventions, ... may help
but at a low scale.
Not pushed by at the scale of the whole software industry like these days
Variety is the ke
ittle value in a branded framework.
Being reluctant to be part of a tagged herd, I can't agree with you :)
But given my (bad) character this may explain that :)
Luc P.
> On 03/05/2015 00:53, Christopher Small wrote:
> > I disagree with the premise entirely. I think that the Clojure com
the failed process
being critical
or not.
Up times above 250 days, restarts only required when upgrading stuff.
Luc P.
>
> I'm curious, how are people in the Clojure community currently dealing with
> exceptions? I have a diverse set of questions on this topic.
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> Batsov,
>
> CIDER is the best Clojure IDE. ;)
>
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>
>
> > On Mar 29, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Bozhidar Batsov wrote:
> >
> > And CIDER isn't, rig
Nice to you to raise the flag :)
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I wanted to share a few articles about testing and deployment of Clojure
> applications that I wrote for Semaphore Community -
> https://semaphoreci.com/community/tags/clojure.
>
> I plan to continue writi
Bought it myself too...
If this is some kind of marketing stunt, it
caught me off guard... (sic)
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> The list is so cool that I think this discussion is actually part of the
> book's marketing strategy. It worked! I just bought my copy ;-)
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015
Fine with me. Let's call it off.
It's not either a forum about netiquette or about 'how bad this word/expression
hurts anonymous people'.
> Luc, you are missing the point: this isn't the forum for that
> discussion regardless of how valid the points in t
The 'attack' word is again a manifestation of extreme political correctness.
I will argue that these technologies with their inherent complexity are
creating huge
bureaucracies to attract and hide unqualified/unskilled/uncommited/... aka
'stupid' people
from scrutiny.
These environments have t
ally saying publicly what they
really think,
let's not try to cut their wings...
Pleasing the majority is the path to mediocrity.
Luc P.
> Trust me I have been using Scala + Akka + Play for past three years in
> production, and had to deal with tons of incidental complexity plus a lo
d still be using
horse driven carts... I appreciate the life style of Amish communities and
would
certainly switch to it if I could. But that's not how my world is wired
presently.
Luc P.
> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 11:23:14 AM UTC-4, David Nolen wrote:
> >
> > Need more
with SSDs of decent sizes and not to store only the OS.
I think they would restrict usage if
rewrites were a huge concern...
Luc P.
> On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:16:09 PM UTC-5, Michael Blume wrote:
> >
> > Possibly stupid question: can you just pretend you have more memory t
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details :)
As for interop, you enter the mutable world and the familiar rules apply here.
The above 'cosmology' sums up how I think when I dive into some Clojure code
and it works
99.5% of the time. There's no confusion.
Luc P.
> On 12/02/2015 01:53, Ben Wolfson wrote:
&
t others can reuse.
>
> If some pass the test of time and general use then they may end up in some
> contrib lib or in the core possibly.
>
> I apologize for typos, been typing ob my iPhone from my bath :)
>
> Luc P.
>
> > Not anybody? I'm a little puzzled: is thi
e pass the test of time and general use then they may end up in some
contrib lib or in the core possibly.
I apologize for typos, been typing ob my iPhone from my bath :)
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> Not anybody? I'm a little puzzled: is this feature so useless? I thought
> embedding stuff like CSV d
Hi,
Got your ticket notification, it's a
busy week, beeing on the road most of it.
I will look at it by next Sunday after
crossing the Atlantic :)
Luc P.
> Hi all,
>
> I've proposed some changed to tools.trace and created an initial
> implementation (linked in the J
ngly dynamically
> typed language.
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and y refer to the same object
(x == y has the value true).
=> (class (float 3.2))
java.lang.Float
=> (class (double 3.2))
java.lang.Double
Oupse... :)
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:31:31 -0800
Mark Engelberg wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Luc Prefontaine <
&
; don't see how your response is relevant.
>
> > On Jan 23, 2015, at 3:10 AM, Luc Prefontaine
> > wrote:
> >
> > Agree, it's broken... in java...
> > Has it has been broken in the past in several architectures...
> >
> > I understand your f
rick, fine.
But that's a trick nothing else. The problem will resurface in some form in
another. Better cope with reality...
Luc P.
> On Jan 23, 2015, at 1:33 AM, Immo Heikkinen wrote:
> >
> > I actually ran into this while comparing nested data structures from two
> >
ng
in computations, ...). We could even choose the runtime float representation to
minimize errors in computations and take the best one given the app at hand.
Avoid mixing them. That's the only safe escape.
Luc P.
> My one cent:
>
> But I think (and it's just my humble opi
Euuh ? I was expecting to find %5 and above and a bunch of embedded forms
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So far so good, will go in prod with it next Wednesday.
Will run some heavy integrated tests in the next 48 hours.
Will report if anything shows up.
Thank you,
Luc P.
> For my projects swapping 1.7.0-alpha4 -> alpha5 has not culminated in any
> abnormalities. So... looking good thus
t see what would be the added value here, the wrapping fn would only be
calling the protocol method.
Nothing else...
If you require more in your context then define your own wrapper.
Nothing generic can help you at this point... I think...
Luc P.
> I was just refering to the fact that the &#x
s not worth the energy it
sucks.
I suggest reading a 'Brave New World' for those who think that a stronger
initiative
than defaults is required :)
Or punch out a few thousand cards of Cobol code lines to get the feeling...
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> On Dec 20, 2014, at 09:57, C
duration of
the operation
Sorry for all the buddhist monks that may be offended by the above :)
I like black humor very much and this is probably the only joke that I can write
on this list that will not qualify me hopefully for eternal damnation... Euh
moderation...
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>
+1, could not make it to Washington, my agenda was tossed upside down last week
but with
these at least I am not missing all of it.
Thank you,
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> Thank you very much for clojureconj videos !!
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name. If I recall most
of
these where anonymous fns.
With 140 (143 in my case) bytes you have to shorten the folder path as much as
you can
if you expect compilation to succeed and avoid fns with complex signatures.
Luc P.
> I hit this error when moving to a new box that had an encrypted
e log
that have nothing to do with CCW
and that could give an idea of the root of
the problem.
I'll leave you to think about this
and figure out what should be your
next action.
Guess what ? It's not adding another
email to this thread, I wrote 'action' above.
Luc P.
>
wine than trying to guess what happened here.
I would do the same...
Luc P.
> On Friday, October 31, 2014 2:24:04 PM UTC-4, Laurent PETIT wrote:
> >
> > Also, if you can attach the workspace's .metadata/.log file, I can take a
> > look at it.
> >
>
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amount of money, you can legitimately yell at your
suppliier.
Most clients don't which is odd considering the pile of crap shipped by many
software suppliers.
In the open source world, you do not have this leverage and if you do not
report the issue
nothing will ever happen to solve it.
Microsoft not wanting to confuse the end user ?!?!?!?
I am baffled :)))
Luc P.
> I'll take a wild guess and say the "flashing" properly is a console with a
> message Microsoft don't want to confuse you with.
>
> That said, the message i get here, is that
business domain and the rest is made
up
mostly of DSLs.
What a relief
Luc P.
> On 18 October 2014 08:28, Mark Engelberg wrote:
>
> > Yeah, it's hard to deny the convenience of Clojure's keyword lookups and
> > standard assoc mechanism for getting and settin
itself.
The net result is that my code has few vars aside from the functions themselves
and less
state concerns.
I agree that it requires some brain cells rewiring. I went along that path the
first year I
worked non-stop with Clojure.
Luc P.
>
> Actually, I think that this is a r
s early in dev with a time
efficient tool to me is a better use of
my time than
using a sophisticated one requiring
some complex wiring from my part.
Luc P.
> On Sunday, October 5, 2014 4:58:04 PM UTC-4, Luc wrote:
> >
> > Have a look at criterium.
> >
> > ht
aving the REPL.
I use VisualVM and similar tools
for integrated tests once the app
is packaged as a safeguard.
Luc P.
> On Sunday, October 5, 2014 3:57:37 PM UTC-4, Gary Verhaegen wrote:
> >
> > When I need to profile (which is asmittedly quite rare), I use VisualVM,
> &
.
It should be kept local (no leak
outside of a narrow scope) and
certainly not shared
by multiple threads.
Luc P.
> Excuse my ignorance but does "volatile!" have anything to do with Java's
> "volatile" keyword? Is there any relation at all? I'm not s
+1 for the !
No atomic changes here, no coordination whatsoever.
At the mercy of the caller...
> I asked Rich and he said "making a volatile is as dangerous as any ! op".
>
> Some people have also asked about vswap! being a macro instead of a method
> on Volatile. The issue there is that vswap!
this one either.
You do not have any source file
line number anywhere in the stack
trace pointing to your code ?
Luc P.
> Compiling a file in Emacs, this error:
>
> "NullPointerException clojure.lang.Numbers.ops (Numbers.java:961)"
>
> . leaves me clueless as to
gn
of inefficiency except if you intend
to send men on the moon or
similar unusual goals.
Luc P.
> + Grammar. I should not write correspondence before having coffee.
>
> On Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:31:42 AM UTC+2, Henrik Eneroth wrote:
> >
> > Sweden has some things going for it,
That's what I inferred but it has nothing to do with my astonishing ESP
capabilities,
currently drinking an excellent beer in Rabat :)
Cheers,
Luc P
> I meant would not
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:28 PM, David Nolen wrote:
>
> > I would rely on the behavior
Oups typo in my last reply should be
(fn [] )
IPhone quirk, tiny, very tiny keyboard...
Luc P.
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> Sorry if that was already answered,
>
> Is there a possibility to get rid of this legalwall?
>
> I realize that there are good intents behind the existing practice, but it
x27;s
voice here) else can do it :))
Luc P.
Luc P.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:42:41 AM UTC-5, Mars0i wrote:
> >
> > ... Then I add the new functions to the declare statement by hand, or I
> > periodically do something like:
> >
> > grep defn
o the readers of the
above lines, I could not resist :)))
Luc P.
> It takes a while (a couple months) to get used to reading things
> upside-down, but I wouldn't want to go back. Knowing with certainty that
> some called method is defined above in the compilation strategy simplifies
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