Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Simon Hobson
Daniel Spies wrote: > In my opinion, it doesn't make any sense to scan e-mail leaving the server. > The recipient will never trust these tags anyway. So why scan at all? It's > important to scan incoming mail, be it from a local or an external client. I disagree. Recipients may not trust the t

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Sun, 22 Feb 2015, Daniel Spies wrote: In my opinion, it doesn't make any sense to scan e-mail leaving the server. Welcome to my permanent block list. -- 73, Ged. ___ Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: https://github.com/vrtad

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/22/2015 12:18 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Daniel Spies skrev den 2015-02-22 03:19: > >> Yes, but I have (still) enabled sending e-mail to port 25. This would >> only work for submission (see my other e-mail). > > yes i remember that problem here aswell, so far i think postfix does > not honn

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.02.15 03:13, Daniel Spies wrote: In my opinion, it doesn't make any sense to scan e-mail leaving the server. why? What if your users get infected by something that starts sending spam, phish, or private infos like credit card numbers? sure it makes sense to scan outgoing mail. The recipi

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Daniel Spies
On 02/22/2015 10:08 AM, Simon Hobson wrote: Recipients may not trust the tags, but it *should* stop outbound spam/infected mail should your machine (or one of the clients) get compromised. IMO spam and malware is not just something to stop coming in, it's something to porevent going out - if m

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Daniel Spies
On 02/22/2015 07:13 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: sure it makes sense to scan outgoing mail. Maybe in a company network, yes. But I don't care for the computers of my clients -- these are their computers. *If* they get infected somehow, I have measures to stop them from doing harm through

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Dennis Peterson
On 2/22/15 12:16 PM, Daniel Spies wrote: On 02/22/2015 07:13 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: sure it makes sense to scan outgoing mail. Maybe in a company network, yes. But I don't care for the computers of my clients -- these are their computers. *If* they get infected somehow, I have mea

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Daniel Spies
On 02/22/2015 09:18 PM, Dennis Peterson wrote: While I disagree with everything you've said I am glad you've spoken out. My job would be far easier if everyone did so. Could you be more precise? The quintessence of my last message was: 1. A company network is different, one has to care for the

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Dennis Peterson
On 2/22/15 12:32 PM, Daniel Spies wrote: On 02/22/2015 09:18 PM, Dennis Peterson wrote: While I disagree with everything you've said I am glad you've spoken out. My job would be far easier if everyone did so. Could you be more precise? The quintessence of my last message was: 1. A company net

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Simon Hobson
OK, this is getting well off-topic for this list, this will be my final say on the matter - and from some of the other comments I see I'm not alone in considering you part of the problem. Daniel Spies wrote: >> Recipients may not trust the tags, but it *should* stop outbound >> spam/infected

Re: [clamav-users] clamav-milter LocalNet option / outgoing mail (Debian Wheezy)

2015-02-22 Thread Daniel Spies
On 02/22/2015 10:43 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: OK, this is getting well off-topic for this list, this will be my final say on the matter Agreed. Which is one reason it's very important to make sure you are not part of the problem. Allowing a customer to sent "nasties" through your mail server