Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-10 Thread Marc
> > > > > > > > this looks like your sendmail DID reject mail from client. > > > > > > > I think you are maybe right, however this is not being reported and it > > gets stuck in my delivering mail server. Which I do not get because if I > > put my own email address on the email blacklist, I am gett

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread G.W. Haywood via clamav-users
Hi there, On Tue, 8 Feb 2022, Marc wrote: ... the frontend servers know what can be relayed. Hmm. Do you have multiple MTAs processing mail in some kind of chain? Can you describe your setup more fully? ... I noticed somewhere in clamav or clamav-milter there was a '--bounce' option. And I

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Lyle Giese via clamav-users
I just reread my message.  Reject is good behavior. Bouncing is not.  At least in my opinion.  Replace reject below with bounce and you have my correct opinion. Sorry, Lyle On 2/8/22 9:49 AM, Lyle Giese via clamav-users wrote: But the reject may NOT be going to the server/service that sent th

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Lyle Giese via clamav-users
But the reject may NOT be going to the server/service that sent the virus. You received a bad email from hackedu...@example.com from server mail.badisp.ru However the mx record for example.com is mail.example.com, not the sending server or ISP. Now you have annoyed somebody that had nothing

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 08.02.22 10:35, Marc wrote: >Normally when a client connection is reject by my sendmail server, the > client is notified of the Reject message and the client server is > generating a NDR. This is listed in my log as [1] > however when I send a virus what's the difference between "you" and

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Sergey
On Tuesday 08 February 2022, Andrea Venturoli via clamav-users wrote: > > That is the problem of the server that is contacting mine. > > They should not be relaying such crap to me anyway. > > No, this is *your* problem. No. Marc is absolutely right. That is sender's server problem and its ser

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Sergey
On Tuesday 08 February 2022, Marc wrote: > I have a bit of experience with mailfromd and if I reject a message > there the MTA processes it correctly but different from clamav-milter. b.t.w. mailfromd can replace clamav-milter: prog eom do if clamav(current_message(),clamd_port) rejec

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Marc
> > > > > this looks like your sendmail DID reject mail from client. > > > > I think you are maybe right, however this is not being reported and it > gets stuck in my delivering mail server. Which I do not get because if I > put my own email address on the email blacklist, I am getting the delive

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Marc
> > That is the problem of the server that is contacting mine. They should > not be relaying such crap to me anyway. > > No, this is *your* problem. > If you start annoying people with inappropriate bounces, you'll get into > blacklists fast. > > In any case, we are OT, so I'll stop here. > Try

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Andrea Venturoli via clamav-users
On 2/8/22 10:50, Marc wrote: That is the problem of the server that is contacting mine. They should not be relaying such crap to me anyway. No, this is *your* problem. If you start annoying people with inappropriate bounces, you'll get into blacklists fast. In any case, we are OT, so I'l

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Marc
> >Normally when a client connection is reject by my sendmail server, the > > client is notified of the Reject message and the client server is > > generating a NDR. This is listed in my log as [1] > > > however when I send a virus > > what's the difference between "you" and a "client connecti

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Marc
> > > So please explain, why should I not do this, and why I should care about > a server that is delivering a spam message to mine? > > You might not care about the server that sent a virus to you, but you > should care about the *apparent* sender, which has probably nothing to > do with this; s

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Andrea Venturoli via clamav-users
On 2/8/22 09:40, Marc wrote: There is a difference between rejecting the message and having the client server decide whether or not it creates a message to the sender. (which is what I want) Sorry, I find that unclear; please explain better. my server is generating a message to the sende

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 07.02.22 21:36, Marc wrote: Normally when a client connection is reject by my sendmail server, the client is notified of the Reject message and the client server is generating a NDR. This is listed in my log as [1] however when I send a virus what's the difference between "you" and a "cl

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Marc
> > Normally when a client connection is reject by my sendmail server, > > the client is notified of the Reject message and the client server > > is generating a NDR. This is listed in my log as [1] however when I > > send a virus it looks like sendmail is not reporting the reject back > > to the c

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-08 Thread Marc
> On 2/7/22 22:36, Marc wrote: > > however when I send a virus it looks like sendmail is not reporting the > reject back to the client server. > > How should I 'enable' this? > > Don't. > Viruses are usually sent with a spoofed sender address; you would only > annoy victims who didn't really send

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-07 Thread Andrea Venturoli via clamav-users
On 2/7/22 22:36, Marc wrote: however when I send a virus it looks like sendmail is not reporting the reject back to the client server. How should I 'enable' this? Don't. Viruses are usually sent with a spoofed sender address; you would only annoy victims who didn't really send what you rece

Re: [clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-07 Thread G.W. Haywood via clamav-users
Hi there, On Mon, 7 Feb 2022, Marc wrote: Normally when a client connection is reject by my sendmail server, the client is notified of the Reject message and the client server is generating a NDR. This is listed in my log as [1] however when I send a virus it looks like sendmail is not reportin

[clamav-users] clamav milter + sendmail, sendmail not reporting reject

2022-02-07 Thread Marc
Normally when a client connection is reject by my sendmail server, the client is notified of the Reject message and the client server is generating a NDR. This is listed in my log as [1] however when I send a virus it looks like sendmail is not reporting the reject back to the client server. How