RE: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-22 Thread Kevin Hanser
rom: Antony Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru The zero-length attachments on Gibe.F emails I've seen so far have all had .exe extensions, so they get blocked by my server (al

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-21 Thread Thomas Lamy
W.D. McKinney wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 16:40, Diego d'Ambra wrote: The current standpoint of the team maintaining the DB is to include signatures that also detect damaged viruses. These signatures are often used to detect e-mails that somehow "lost" the damaging part. This is to prevent users

RE: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread W.D. McKinney
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 16:40, Diego d'Ambra wrote: > > The current standpoint of the team maintaining the DB is to include > signatures that also detect damaged viruses. These signatures are often > used to detect e-mails that somehow "lost" the damaging part. This is to > prevent users from getti

RE: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Diego d'Ambra
> -Original Message- > From: Antony Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20. september 2003 21:31 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru > > On Saturday 20 September 2003 6:39 pm, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > >

RE: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Diego d'Ambra
> -Original Message- > From: Noel Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20. september 2003 20:13 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 12:39:33PM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > &g

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 20 September 2003 6:39 pm, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > I would prefer that clamav be able to determine if it appears to > be a virus, even one damaged to the point of non-existance. Detecting something which doesn't exist sounds tricky to me. Antony. -- I vote "no" to this proposal

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Noel Jones
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 12:39:33PM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > Thus, I would prefer that clamav be able to determine if it appears to > be a virus, even one damaged to the point of non-existance. maybe someone could post a signature for the gif here and those who wish to block it can add

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 12:16, Thomas Lamy wrote: > Antony Stone wrote: > > On Saturday 20 September 2003 4:54 pm, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > > > > >>On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 10:40, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > > >>>A gif is not a virus, so it should not be detected by an anti-virus > >>>program. >

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread W.D. McKinney
We host e-mail for schools, business's, etc. It's not feasible to enforce blocking .exe's and keep customers. Simple economics. Support costs are an issue and it's a small trade off in this incident to go blocking the gif route. Dee On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 09:16, Thomas Lamy wrote: > Antony Stone

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Thomas Lamy
Antony Stone wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 4:54 pm, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 10:40, Antony Stone wrote: A gif is not a virus, so it should not be detected by an anti-virus program. Anyway, what's the point? Why bother blocking a 'damaged' copy of a virus, where 'd

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 20 September 2003 4:54 pm, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 10:40, Antony Stone wrote: > > A gif is not a virus, so it should not be detected by an anti-virus > > program. > > > > Anyway, what's the point? Why bother blocking a 'damaged' copy of a > > virus, where 'd

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 10:40, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 20 September 2003 4:04 pm, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 18:47, Diego d'Ambra wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > Since the binary is completely missing it's difficult to create a > > > signatur

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 20 September 2003 4:04 pm, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 18:47, Diego d'Ambra wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > > Since the binary is completely missing it's difficult to create a > > signature that will catch the "damaged" versions of Gibe.F. > > You cou

RE: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 18:47, Diego d'Ambra wrote: > > -Original Message- > > Since the binary is completely missing it's difficult to create a > signature that will catch the "damaged" versions of Gibe.F. > You could probably match on the gif file that is included - I've got the same 4.9

RE: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-19 Thread Diego d'Ambra
> -Original Message- > From: Jesse Guardiani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19. september 2003 23:51 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru > > Kevin Hanser wrote: > > > Yes, I received a couple of these this m

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 September 2003 11:23 pm, W.D. McKinney wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 13:51, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > > Kevin Hanser wrote: > > > Yes, I received a couple of these this morning, one with an attachment > > > called Update53.exe, and another w/an attachment called Install932.exe. > > >

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 September 2003 11:23 pm, W.D. McKinney wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 13:51, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > > Kevin Hanser wrote: > > > Yes, I received a couple of these this morning, one with an attachment > > > called Update53.exe, and another w/an attachment called Install932.exe. > > >

Re: [Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-19 Thread W.D. McKinney
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 13:51, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > Kevin Hanser wrote: > > > Yes, I received a couple of these this morning, one with an attachment > > called Update53.exe, and another w/an attachment called Install932.exe. > > > > I'm assuming this is the new "Swen" virus I have recently hear

[Clamav-users] RE: UPDATE81.exe getting thru

2003-09-19 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Kevin Hanser wrote: > Yes, I received a couple of these this morning, one with an attachment > called Update53.exe, and another w/an attachment called Install932.exe. > > I'm assuming this is the new "Swen" virus I have recently heard about? Yes, also Gibe-F apparently. But ClamAV's current viru