Re: [clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs no/yes

2020-08-11 Thread G.W. Haywood via clamav-users
Hi there, On Tue, 11 Aug 2020, Gary R. Schmidt wrote: On 11/08/2020 00:53, Paul via clamav-users wrote: [SNIP] Further digging has led me to find that when 'PhishingScanURLs no" is set the signatures in safebrowsing.cld are not loaded by clamd. Well, there's a win for plain and simple use

Re: [clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs no/yes

2020-08-10 Thread Gary R. Schmidt
On 11/08/2020 00:53, Paul via clamav-users wrote: [SNIP] Further digging has led me to find that when 'PhishingScanURLs no" is set the signatures in safebrowsing.cld are not loaded by clamd. Well, there's a win for plain and simple use of the English language (or a close approximation the

Re: [clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs no/yes

2020-08-10 Thread Paul via clamav-users
On 10/08/2020 15:10, G.W. Haywood via clamav-users wrote: Hi there, On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, Paul via clamav-users wrote: Can anybody explain why when "PhishingScanURLs  no "   I get Loaded 9042923 signatures in logs and when "PhishingScanURLs  yes" I get Loaded 11256306 signatures I would ha

Re: [clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs no/yes

2020-08-10 Thread G.W. Haywood via clamav-users
Hi there, On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, Paul via clamav-users wrote: Can anybody explain why when  "PhishingScanURLs  no "   I get Loaded 9042923 signatures in logs and when "PhishingScanURLs  yes" I get Loaded 11256306 signatures I would have expected the difference to be the count of urls in daily.

[clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs no/yes

2020-08-10 Thread Paul via clamav-users
Hi Can anybody explain why when  "PhishingScanURLs  no "   I get Loaded 9042923 signatures in logs and when "PhishingScanURLs  yes" I get Loaded 11256306 signatures I would have expected the difference to be the count of urls in daily.pdb (263) not 2,213,383.  What else is not getting loaded

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs FPing too often

2010-04-27 Thread Török Edwin
On 04/27/2010 10:40 PM, Kris Deugau wrote: > *snort* ISP end-users running *nix? Well, maybe one or two out of > ~50K... Well python runs on Windows as well, and there is even something like py2exe which embeds a python intepreter with the script. But its probably too much hassle to get even s

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs FPing too often

2010-04-27 Thread Kris Deugau
Török Edwin wrote: Are you sure it was a Heuristics.Phishing.*, or Phishing.Heuristics.* detection? It doesn't look at the subject line at all. Pretty certain; I don't recall the username so it's a bit hard to check back in the mail logs. What does the "17-" at the end indicate? It indic

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs FPing too often

2010-04-27 Thread Török Edwin
On 04/27/2010 08:57 PM, Kris Deugau wrote: > Török Edwin wrote: >> On 04/22/2010 05:26 PM, Kris Deugau wrote: >>> I've had reports of several FPs due to PhishingScanURLs recently - is >>> there any way it can be made less aggressive rather than just turning it >>> off outright? >> >> You could remo

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs FPing too often

2010-04-27 Thread Kris Deugau
Török Edwin wrote: On 04/22/2010 05:26 PM, Kris Deugau wrote: I've had reports of several FPs due to PhishingScanURLs recently - is there any way it can be made less aggressive rather than just turning it off outright? You could remove domains from daily.pdb I don't seem to have this as a se

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs FPing too often

2010-04-27 Thread Török Edwin
On 04/22/2010 05:26 PM, Kris Deugau wrote: > I've had reports of several FPs due to PhishingScanURLs recently - is > there any way it can be made less aggressive rather than just turning it > off outright? You could remove domains from daily.pdb/whitelist all mails that contain certain domains. >

[Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs FPing too often

2010-04-22 Thread Kris Deugau
I've had reports of several FPs due to PhishingScanURLs recently - is there any way it can be made less aggressive rather than just turning it off outright? The messages triggering it so far have been both outgoing and incoming mail from our customers: forwarded copies of legitimate Amazon.ca

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs

2008-07-08 Thread David F. Skoll
Roberto Ullfig wrote: > PhishingScanURLs no > while the default in 0.93.1 is yes > What exactly does this test do? It uses heuristics to attempt to detect Phishing scams. I don't believe it actually follows the links as was suggested by another poster. We keep PhishingScanURLs turned off for a

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs

2008-07-08 Thread Brandon Perry
I believe it follows links in HTML to see if they are phishing scams or not. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Roberto Ullfig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been reviewing our clamav configuration and noticed that we have: > > PhishingScanURLs no > > while the default in 0.93.1 is yes > > What

[Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs

2008-07-08 Thread Roberto Ullfig
I've been reviewing our clamav configuration and noticed that we have: PhishingScanURLs no while the default in 0.93.1 is yes What exactly does this test do? How many of you have it turned on and off? -- Roberto Ullfig - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Help u

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-11-12 Thread Kelson
Tilman Schmidt wrote: > Also, OpenOffice on Linux is normally run from a non-privileged user ID, > heavily limiting the ability of any malicious macro to harm or propagate. Huh? What difference does running as a non-privileged user make when the method of infection is to spread via *documents*?

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-11-12 Thread Erwan David
Le Mon 12/11/2007, Tilman Schmidt disait > John Rudd schrieb: > > Tilman Schmidt wrote: > > > >> (Remember the viruses ClamAV checks for > >> are *Windows* viruses. A unixoid OS doesn't run ClamAV for its own > >> protection but for the protection of Windows clients.) > > > > OpenOffice isn't vul

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-11-12 Thread Tilman Schmidt
John Rudd schrieb: > Tilman Schmidt wrote: > >> (Remember the viruses ClamAV checks for >> are *Windows* viruses. A unixoid OS doesn't run ClamAV for its own >> protection but for the protection of Windows clients.) > > OpenOffice isn't vulnerable to Office Macro viruses? AFAIK, no. Kaspersky ha

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-11-09 Thread John Rudd
Tilman Schmidt wrote: > (Remember the viruses ClamAV checks for > are *Windows* viruses. A unixoid OS doesn't run ClamAV for its own > protection but for the protection of Windows clients.) OpenOffice isn't vulnerable to Office Macro viruses? (I honestly don't know, just asking)

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-11-09 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Joe Clements schrieb: > For what it is worth, Linux will only forge ahead in the market by > improvements in 2 areas. One of them is security. I think you are wrong there. Security doesn't improve market share. Unixoid OSes have been much more secure than Windows since Windows was born, and look

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-30 Thread John Rudd
Daniel T. Staal wrote: > On Tue, October 30, 2007 10:15 am, David F. Skoll said: > >> (Our customers, in fact, always run ClamAV in conjunction with an >> anti-spam scanner, so it's no benefit to them to have Clam try to do >> anti-spam.) > > I usually find it a detriment: ClamAV is nowhere _near

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-30 Thread Freddie Cash
On October 29, 2007 06:53 pm Joe Clements wrote: > For what it is worth, Linux will only forge ahead in the market by > improvements in 2 areas. One of them is security. I would like to see > 1 security suite which has the capability to deal with ALL threats. > Windows security has to have an anti

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-30 Thread Daniel T. Staal
On Tue, October 30, 2007 10:15 am, David F. Skoll said: > (Our customers, in fact, always run ClamAV in conjunction with an > anti-spam scanner, so it's no benefit to them to have Clam try to do > anti-spam.) I usually find it a detriment: ClamAV is nowhere _near_ as good at distinguishing spam/

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-30 Thread David F. Skoll
Graham Toal wrote: > In fact with a decent string search algorithm (using a trie of > strings) there should be very little extra overhead in adding more > strings to be searched in parallel. PhishingScanURLs does not use string matching. It uses regexes, and in general regex matching is NP-hard

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-30 Thread Graham Toal
"David F. Skoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The philosophical one: Do heuristics like PhishingScanURLs belong in a > virus scanner? I realize that once the engine is in place, it's >tempting to add features, but I'm not convinced such things belong in > a virus scanner. I think they are more in

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-30 Thread David F. Skoll
John Rudd wrote: > http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/ClamAV/318642.mbox > http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/ClamAV/318715.mbox Those scanned pretty quickly for me. I don't believe I'm seeing really bad behaviour on any particular message; I just see way more overhead on all messages. On my customer's s

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread John Rudd
Steve Holdoway wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:25:14 -0700 > Dennis Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't see where Linux is unique in this regard. I also don't see why the >> success of >> Linux is particularly important vs BSD, Solaris, Windows, etc. But I suppose >> that >> discuss

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
Steve Holdoway wrote: >> I don't see where Linux is unique in this regard. I also don't see why the >> success of >> Linux is particularly important vs BSD, Solaris, Windows, etc. But I suppose >> that >> discussion is for another forum. >> > > I think the OP may beconsidering linux as a des

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:25:14 -0700 Dennis Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joe Clements wrote: > > >> For what it is worth, Linux will only forge ahead in the market by > >> improvements > >> in 2 areas. One of them is security. I would like to see 1 security suite > >> which > >> has the

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
Joe Clements wrote: >> For what it is worth, Linux will only forge ahead in the market by >> improvements >> in 2 areas. One of them is security. I would like to see 1 security suite >> which >> has the capability to deal with ALL threats. Windows security has to have an >> anti virus, anti troj

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Monday 29 October 2007 18:07, Dennis Peterson wrote: > John Rudd wrote: > > John Rudd wrote: > >> I can produce 2 examples of messages that cause the problem, in RFC822 > >> format, for anyone who wants to experiment with them. > > > > I decided I'd just go ahead and make them available: > > > >

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread Joe Clements
David F. Skoll wrote: > Hello, > > A client of ours had a bunch of machines whose CPUs were maxed out > at 100% because of clam. Changing PhishingScanURLs to "no" from the > default "yes" dropped the load average from 70+ to about 3, and the > CPU usage from 100% to under 50%. This is under Linux

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
John Rudd wrote: > John Rudd wrote: > >> I can produce 2 examples of messages that cause the problem, in RFC822 >> format, for anyone who wants to experiment with them. > > I decided I'd just go ahead and make them available: > > http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/ClamAV/318642.mbox > > http://peop

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
David F. Skoll wrote: > Hello, > > A client of ours had a bunch of machines whose CPUs were maxed out > at 100% because of clam. Changing PhishingScanURLs to "no" from the > default "yes" dropped the load average from 70+ to about 3, and the > CPU usage from 100% to under 50%. This is under Linu

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread John Rudd
John Rudd wrote: > I can produce 2 examples of messages that cause the problem, in RFC822 > format, for anyone who wants to experiment with them. I decided I'd just go ahead and make them available: http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/ClamAV/318642.mbox http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/ClamAV/318715.mb

Re: [Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread John Rudd
David F. Skoll wrote: > Hello, > > A client of ours had a bunch of machines whose CPUs were maxed out > at 100% because of clam. Changing PhishingScanURLs to "no" from the > default "yes" dropped the load average from 70+ to about 3, and the > CPU usage from 100% to under 50%. This is under Linu

[Clamav-users] PhishingScanURLs is dreadfully slow/CPU-intensive

2007-10-29 Thread David F. Skoll
Hello, A client of ours had a bunch of machines whose CPUs were maxed out at 100% because of clam. Changing PhishingScanURLs to "no" from the default "yes" dropped the load average from 70+ to about 3, and the CPU usage from 100% to under 50%. This is under Linux, so it's not the broken Solaris