Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-25 Thread Chuck Hast
OK whatever. I will scrounge and keep my price down. To each his own. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 9:32 PM Ken Hansen wrote: > Chuck, > > It seems you really want to convince me that monitors aren't expensive - > I'm not sure why, since everything I've written is "+ monitor". > > Yes, people can use

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-25 Thread Ken Hansen
Chuck, It seems you really want to convince me that monitors aren't expensive - I'm not sure why, since everything I've written is "+ monitor". Yes, people can use their home TVs. Yes, older computer displays are abundant and in many cases freely available. Your first post said: "And for the

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-25 Thread Chuck Hast
Yes that is certainly true. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 7:47 PM Martin Cooper wrote: > In many places, you don't need to pay for a monitor at all. Check your > local Freecycle list, or the free section of Craigslist. People are giving > away monitors (and TVs) all the time. > > Martin. > KD6YAM > >

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-25 Thread Martin Cooper
In many places, you don't need to pay for a monitor at all. Check your local Freecycle list, or the free section of Craigslist. People are giving away monitors (and TVs) all the time. Martin. KD6YAM On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 5:17 PM Chuck Hast wrote: > Ken, in this case I do not have a junk box,

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-25 Thread Chuck Hast
Ken, in this case I do not have a junk box, but there is an IT recycler (actually several) in town and they all have monitors and are more than glad to part with them for a few $$. I think if people will look around they will find that most cities of any size will have them and a lot of computer sh

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-25 Thread Ken Hansen
Chuck, My $100 number started with an RPi 400, not a 'traditional' RPI. RPi 400 - $70 Mouse - $7 Power adapter - $7 HDMI cable -$7 (microHDMI to standard HDBI) Name-brand MicroSD card - $7 That gives you $98 plus monitor, or simply get the RPi 400 'complete kit' for $100 and get a nice book als

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-25 Thread Chuck Hast
I buy a Logitech K400 which has a touchpad on it for about $20 at Walmart or other places that sell them. I either use a repurposed TV or go to the local IT recycler and get me a monitor for $5-$10. You do not need that much SD card for Chirp so that will cost less than $10. So far I still am not n

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-24 Thread Ken Hansen
You need to add a screen, a mouse, a power supply, and an SD card. The screen can get pricey pretty fast - money saved by buying a smaller screen will soon be spent on a pair of 'readers' to use the smaller screen. I'm a big fan of RPi, but people like to gloss over the actual cost of such a se

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-24 Thread Graham Hay
Most people buy a new computer because their old one is unable to be upgraded ( no longer supported BS ) and not especially to run one application, I had this problem when I had to 'on board' to Microsoft 365 Teams. The laptop I purchased was running Win11 S mode and doesn't come with the usu

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-24 Thread Dan Berry
You can attach the raspberry pi to your TV and you are set. I picked up a wireless keyboard for $8 from ebay and it works great On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 9:01 AM Chuck Hast wrote: > I see more Windows discussion than anything else. > It is so easy to run on Linux (where it is native) that > for the

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-24 Thread Chuck Hast
I see more Windows discussion than anything else. It is so easy to run on Linux (where it is native) that for the price of a RPi, why put up with that steaming batch of stupidity called Windows. And for the price of a RPi 400 you just need to add a screen and you are off to the races... On Mon, J

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-24 Thread Bill KA8VIT
Hi Al, Raspberry Pi OS... which is based on Debian Linux. Easy to set up and use. There is a Raspberry Pi image out there called "Ham Pi". It has a ton of Amateur Radio software pre-installed, including Chirp. I have a separate Raspberry Pi set up with that I use in the shack. 73 - Bill KA8V

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-23 Thread Steve Horning
Just thinking "out loud", but will the Windows in-place application version of CHIRP work in Windows S-mode? Personally not a fan of S-mode and I switch all my devices to standard Windows.  Maybe I'm missing out... On 1/23/2022 9:06 AM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote: > I answered that. > Chi

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-23 Thread Nicola Jayne Hodson
devices sold in S mode are aimed at 'appliance' level home users - who have become used to the curated ecosystem of iOS and Android rather than the 'fiddling' that traditional desktop (and laptop) deployments of various OSes have needed as you correctly point out you can tak

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-23 Thread Kerry Whittle
Nicola, I use chirp both on my Mac and on a Dell Inspiron 15 3000. It came to me in S - mode but I found a setting that let me take it into regular Windows Home mode. S-mode is just a security mode that won’t allow you to load software except from the Microsoft store. As far was the Surface g

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-23 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
I answered that. Chirp is not in the Microsoft app store and therefore will not install in S mode. > On 23/01/2022 09:15 Nicola Jayne Hodson wrote: > > > and you have not answered the question  > >  this OPs question was about S mode - and the answer to that depends on > whether Chirp and s

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-23 Thread Nicola Jayne Hodson
and you have not answered the question this OPs question was about S mode - and the answer to that depends on whether Chirp and signed and available in the Smode libraries or whether the device needs to be taken to 'normal' windows to install chirp and any drivers for the programming

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-21 Thread Chuck Hast
; From: "Bill KA8VIT" > To: "Discussion of CHIRP" ; "Kelly > McGuire" > Sent: Fri 1 21 22 12:44:25 > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode > > >Doesn't answer your questions but, for what it's worth... > > >

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-21 Thread Al Jones
You don't say and curiousity has to ask, what OS are you using?? //al -- Original Message -- From: "Bill KA8VIT" To: "Discussion of CHIRP" ; "Kelly McGuire" Sent: Fri 1 21 22 12:44:25 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode >Doesn'

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-21 Thread Bill KA8VIT
Doesn't answer your questions but, for what it's worth... I set up Raspberry Pi 3B just use as a portable Chirp programming machine. I use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and a small 6" TFT Screen. No drivers and such to worry about. Small and portable, (I take it club meetings and program folk'

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Chirp's fine with USB C ports. > On 20/01/2022 22:28 Dave KG6ZJO wrote: > > > Not a windows expert, but from what I read the "S" mode is quickly & easily > turned off. No problem. > In S mode, you can only install apps from the Microsoft App Store. So most > people turn that off on the first

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Kelly McGuire
Very helpful! I picked out one that is perfect and since I won’t be there to help him use it we’re not doing a surface or a 2 in 1. Good to know about 11! Thank you so much! Sent from my iPhone Xs Max > On Jan 20, 2022, at 9:32 PM, Dave KG6ZJO > wrote: > > Not a windows expert, but from w

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
You don't have to FORCE anything. It runs fine on both Win 10 and Win 11. > On 20/01/2022 22:23 Dan Berry wrote: > > > You might be able to force it into windows 10 compatible by right clicking on > the icon and changing how it behaves in the settings. You can do that in many > of the windows

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Windows mode S has NOTHING to do with Chromebooks. Not a single similarity. Mode S just means that all apps/programms must come from the Microsoft store. You can always swith off mode S. > On 20/01/2022 22:18 George Hale Jr. wrote: > > > I was told the windows S mode, is basically a chromebook

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Works fine with Win 11. > On 20/01/2022 22:10 robert decker wrote: > > > stay with windows 10, the program works with 10 but no information about > windows 11 compatibility. > > Bob K7bd > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:54 PM Kelly McGuire > wrote: > > I’m trying to help my boyfriend’s Dad

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
Works fine on both Win 10 and Win 11 but not in Mode S. You'll have tpo take the Surface out of Mode S first. > On 20/01/2022 21:54 Kelly McGuire wrote: > > > I’m trying to help my boyfriend’s Dad pick out a laptop that he can install > CHIRP on and needed to know whether the Microsoft Surfa

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Dave KG6ZJO
Not a windows expert, but from what I read the "S" mode is quickly & easily turned off. No problem. In S mode, you can only install apps from the Microsoft App Store. So most people turn that off on the first day. Then there may be an option to upgrade to Windows 11, and from what I hear, it's

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Kelly McGuire
It will run programs it’s supposed to function as a laptop running Windows and a Tablet but I won’t have him risk it. Thank you for your input! Kelly Sent from my iPhone Xs Max > On Jan 20, 2022, at 9:24 PM, George Hale Jr. wrote: > >  > I was told the windows S mode, is basically a chrom

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Dan Berry
You might be able to force it into windows 10 compatible by right clicking on the icon and changing how it behaves in the settings. You can do that in many of the windows versions as some programs are slow or windows hides all the compatibility stuff. On Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 8:11 PM robert decker

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread George Hale Jr.
I was told the windows S mode, is basically a chromebook, running windows. Ok for internet stuff, but will not run any programs. Unless someone says I am wrong, do not buy one. On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:11 PM robert decker wrote: > stay with windows 10, the program works with 10 but no informati

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Kelly McGuire
Will it work on a 2 in 1 or Windows Surface that runs Windows 10 S Mode? I didn’t know if there would be any compatibility issues. Thank you for the super fast reply! Kelly Sent from my iPhone Xs Max > On Jan 20, 2022, at 9:10 PM, robert decker wrote: > >  > stay with windows 10, the pro

Re: [chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread robert decker
stay with windows 10, the program works with 10 but no information about windows 11 compatibility. Bob K7bd On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:54 PM Kelly McGuire < kellyelizabethmcgu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I’m trying to help my boyfriend’s Dad pick out a laptop that he can > install CHIRP on and needed

[chirp_users] Windows 10 and 11 S Mode

2022-01-20 Thread Kelly McGuire
I’m trying to help my boyfriend’s Dad pick out a laptop that he can install CHIRP on and needed to know whether the Microsoft Surface Laptops running Windows 10 and Windows 11 in S Mode were compatible. I read through everything I could. I’m tech savvy but know nothing about Ham Radios. I don’t