[Cerowrt-devel] Field Report on CeroWrt 3.10.24-1

2013-12-14 Thread Rich Brown
5) I did *not* try the Hurricane Electric 6in4 tunnel. Best regards, Rich Brown Hanover, NH ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Field Report on CeroWrt 3.10.24-1/AQM GUI

2013-12-15 Thread Rich Brown
wisdom on the subject. I’ll help with that. Best, Rich On Dec 15, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Rich, > > > On Dec 15, 2013, at 06:16 , Rich Brown wrote: > >> I did a tftp install of CeroWrt 3.10.42-1 on my secondary WNDR3800. I then >> use

[Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.24-1/Wifi problems

2013-12-15 Thread Rich Brown
I played around a bit more with the wifi on CeroWrt 3.10.24-1, and discovered the ‘wifi' command gives a bunch errors. I don’t know if these are relevant. I’ve included the output of the wifi command, as well as the /etc/config/wireless file’s contents. The current state of wifi is:s - The wi

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-16 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, List, > + hopefully nasty interface initialization bug fixed > http://www.bufferbloat.net/issues/437 In a one-out-of-one test, this build causes all six wireless interfaces to start up: CEROwrt (and guest) on 2.4 and 5 GHz, and both babel SSID’s. In addition, the ‘wifi’ command does not g

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-17 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Sebastian, >> And while trying to make an intelligent guess, I wonder how to map >> none/tc_stab into DSL and/or ATM; if adsl is the same as DSL; > > No ADLS is one out of a family of xDSLs (digital subscriber lines). As > far as I know SDSL does not use ATM, VDSL1 might use ATM and al

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-18 Thread Rich Brown
I like David Lang’s questions: 1) If we had “full knowledge” of the customer’s link, how many different cases would we have to take into account? 2) What happens if we get it wrong? And I think I understand Sebastian Moeller’s answers: 1) People using ATM-based carriers need the ATM link layer

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-18 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Sebastian, >> Perhaps we could extend the Interface configuration page to add a “Link uses >> DSL/ADSL:” checkbox right below the Protocol dropdown. Default would be off, >> but when customers go to the GE00 interface to enter their PPPoE/PPPoATM/ISP >> credentials, they’d see this additiona

[Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page

2013-12-19 Thread Rich Brown
/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for_CeroWrt_310 Rich On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:49 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Rich, > > > On Dec 19, 2013, at 05:12 , Rich Brown wrote: > >> Hi Sebastian, >> >>>> Perhaps we could extend the Interface configura

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but "AQM"

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, You wrote: > What's in a name? AQM has been pretty thoroughly defined to equal > active queue *length* management and not packet scheduling. > Overloading "AQM" what cerowrt does is apt to cause even more > confusion in the field than it already does. We discussed using LBO as > a word but

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but "AQM"

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Brown
On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:22 PM, dpr...@reed.com wrote: > They are based on a completely false premise - that queues should be allowed > to build at all, and that local information can solve highly transient global > problems. > > "Dumb Queue Management" is going to be far superior. Keep the que

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I have updated the CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page. Thanks for all the comments, I’ll incorporate more comments as people send them in. Some thoughts on the page so far: - I agree that we should keep the descriptions generic (that is, not tailored specifically to CeroWrt) so we can push into Open

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but "AQM"

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I just remembered that about a year ago, Bill McGonigle offered a “marketing name” for CeroWrt - BroadbandEQ. He wrote: > From: Bill McGonigle > Subject: Re: Dang, I forgot... > Date: December 10, 2012 11:13:55 PM EST > To: Richard Brown > > Rationale: Not a precise technical name, bu

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Proper AQM settings for my connection?

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Brown
On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Hector Ordorica wrote: > I'm running 3.10.13-2 on a WNDR3800, and have used the suggested > settings from the latest draft: > > http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for_CeroWrt_310 > > I have a 30Mb down / 5Mb upload cable connection. >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-7 "North Pole" development release available

2013-12-23 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, > installed this remotely to the yurtlab and the box didn't magically > reappear. Be cautious with this. > > I'll be stopping in there tomorrow (monday) I can confirm a problem.I installed 3.10.24-7 on my WNDR3800 secondary router (hoping to get screen shots for the AQM GUI). It doesn’t

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] experience upgrade to 3.10.24-8

2013-12-25 Thread Rich Brown
I haven’t done extensive testing, everything seems to be working without surprise. Thanks, Dave, for this Christmas present, and all the best to CeroWrt’ers for the new year. Rich Brown Hanover, NH USA ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cer

[Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.24-8 badly bloated?

2013-12-27 Thread Rich Brown
So I screwed up my courage and replaced my 3.10.18-? firmware in my primary router with 3.10.24-8. That version had worked well as a secondary, so I figured, What the heck… Let’s give it try. The result was not pretty. I set my link speeds in the SQM page, chose the defaults for the Queue Disci

[Cerowrt-devel] Update to "Setting up SQM for CeroWrt 3.10" web page. Comments needed.

2013-12-27 Thread Rich Brown
I updated the page to reflect the 3.10.24-8 build, and its new GUI pages. http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for_CeroWrt_310 There are still lots of open questions. Comments, please. Rich ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cero

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.24-8 badly bloated?/Not anymore...

2013-12-27 Thread Rich Brown
> Probably didn't start sqm properly > > Restart it by hand via /etc/init.d/sqm restart > > tc -s qdisc show dev ge00 > > Should show htb and fq codel. > Uh oh. PEBCAK (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard :-) I see the problem… There’s this little checkbox in the “Basic Settings” of the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Update to "Setting up SQM for CeroWrt 3.10" web page. Comments needed.

2013-12-27 Thread Rich Brown
> You are a very good writer and I am on a tablet. > Thanks! > Ill take a pass at the wiki tomorrow. > > The shaper does up and down was my first thought... > Everyone else… Don’t let Dave hog all the fun! Read the tech note and give feedback! Rich > On Dec 27, 2013

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Update to "Setting up SQM for CeroWrt 3.10" web page. Comments needed.

2013-12-28 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Sebastian, > I would love to comment further, but after reloading > http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for_CeroWrt_310 > just returns a blank page and I can not get back to the page as of yesterday > evening… I will have a look later to see whether the page resur

[Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #1: How does SQM shape the ingress?

2013-12-28 Thread Rich Brown
As I write the SQM page, I find I have questions that I can’t answer myself. I’m going to post these questions separately because they’ll each generate their own threads of conversation. QUESTION #1: How does SQM shape the ingress? I know that fq_codel can shape the egress traffic by discardin

[Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #2: How does CeroWrt use info gleaned from the link layer adaptation?

2013-12-28 Thread Rich Brown
QUESTION #2: How does CeroWrt use info gleaned from the link layer adaptation? Specifically, the link layer adaptation all seem to be designed to compute the actual time it takes to transmit a packet, accounting for Ethernet & PPPoE header bytes, other overhead, and ATM 48-in-53 framing. How do

[Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds?

2013-12-28 Thread Rich Brown
QUESTION #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds? Although we have already spent a lot of time on the list batting around ways to think about this, it seems to me that there are only two choices for recommendations, especially given that most people looking at CeroWrt

[Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #4: What are the major features of simple.qos, simplest.qos, and drr.qos scripts

2013-12-28 Thread Rich Brown
QUESTION #4: What are the major features of (and/or differences between) the simple.qos, simplest.qos, and drr.qos scripts? I’ll use this information to flesh out the Details… section for that section of the page. ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt Questions #1 to #4

2013-12-29 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, What great comments! I knew the group would send out a lot of good information. Thanks! Rich ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

[Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-04 Thread Rich Brown
QUESTION #5: I still don’t have any great answers for the Link Layer Adaptation overhead descriptions and recommendations. In an earlier message, (see https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/2013-December/001914.html and following messages), Fred Stratton described the overheads ca

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] New Linksys router

2014-01-07 Thread Rich Brown
I was going to find some time today to call the product manager and/or marketing contact to see if they can give advice. What else would the collective wisdom care to know about? Rich On Jan 7, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Looks promising, if somewhat pricey? > > http:

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] New Linksys router

2014-01-07 Thread Rich Brown
The press release for the new Linksys WRT1900AC has some details: 1.2GHz dual-core ARM, 128MBytes Flash, 256MBytes DDR3 RAM, 2.4 & 5 GHz dual band, lots of other good stuff. http://www.linksys.com/en-us/press/releases/2014-01-06_Linksys_wrt_revolutionizes_wireless_networking … and also… On Jan

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-11 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, Thanks for all the good responses to this question. I have incorporated the info into the SQM page on the wiki, so that it now gives broad recommendations for each link type, and refers people to the (new) “Everything you wanted to know about Link Layer Adaptation” page. This allows som

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] VDSL

2014-01-11 Thread Rich Brown
The VDSL option is burning up way too many of my brain cells. Given that VDSL may well use ATM, while VDSL2 is unlikely to use ATM, I think that it isn’t useful to include it as a top-level choice . In the new pages, I propose removing the VDSL choice, leaving: - “ATM (any kind of DSL link)” a

[Cerowrt-devel] Perfection vs. Good Enough

2014-01-11 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I am so pleased with the state of CeroWrt. The software has improved enormously, to the point that we all get really good performance from our routers at home. If you want a real eyeful of the progress we’ve made, check list at the bottom of the Release Notes: http://www.bufferbloat.net

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] New Linksys router

2014-01-11 Thread Rich Brown
Despite a couple calls and e-mails to Mike Chen and Karen Sohl last week, I have not had a response. I’ll keep trying this week after they return from the CES show. Rich On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Rich Brown wrote: > The press release for the new Linksys WRT1900AC has some details: 1.2

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] VDSL

2014-01-11 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Sebastian, >> In the new pages, I propose removing the VDSL choice, leaving: >> >> - “ATM (any kind of DSL link)” and >> - “None” > > Well, that looks like a decent recommendation for the wiki. The SQM > configuration page still needs to expose all three values, atm, ethernet, and >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] VDSL

2014-01-11 Thread Rich Brown
HI Sebastian, > Well, that looks like a decent recommendation for the wiki. The SQM > configuration page still needs to expose all three values, atm, ethernet, and > none so that people can actually change things... So two questions really: 1) (From my previous note) What’s the differen

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Perfection vs. Good Enough

2014-01-11 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Sebastian, > It is quite clear to me, that I failed to explain the matters > surrounding ATM links properly. But if I can not explain this to a small > group of technical experts there is no chance for me to explain this to lay > persons. I will try my best to contribute to the "more t

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] VDSL

2014-01-11 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Sebastian, >>> Well, that looks like a decent recommendation for the wiki. The SQM >>> configuration page still needs to expose all three values, atm, ethernet, >>> and none so that people can actually change things... >> >> So two questions really: >> >> 1) (From my previous note) Wha

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Friends don't let friends run factory firmware...

2014-01-12 Thread Rich Brown
Saw this on Network World… http://www.networkworld.com/news/2014/010914-default-settings-leave-external-hard-277555.html ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release

2014-01-14 Thread Rich Brown
Since I kicked off this thread, let me second what David and Toke have said. I used the wrong word - "stable" - when I really wanted a new stake in the ground. Our first was CeroWrt 3.7.5-2 - it was great. I used it for a long time before these newer builds got even better and I was willing to r

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bug #438] 6relayd

2014-01-20 Thread Rich Brown
On Jan 18, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: > If renumbering is going on, I'd complain at Comcast. I'd suspect it's an > artifact of an early deployment and testing rather than intentional behavior. > They get to deal with service calls from anything that breaks, and this is > still ear

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release/replacement router

2014-01-20 Thread Rich Brown
On Jan 20, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Maciej Soltysiak wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> ** The wndr3800 is obsolete and fixing the next generation soon would be good > On wndr3800 being obsolete... I was asked recently for a router > recommendation. > I wanted to say WNDR3

[Cerowrt-devel] Setting Up SQM - Draft 5

2014-01-21 Thread Rich Brown
I have created a new page (to make a better URL) that describes process of setting up SQM on the newest CeroWrt 3.10.26-2. The earlier page now redirects to this: http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_SQM_for_CeroWrt_310 There are new screen shots, but they retain the same

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] some early rrul tests of comcast ipv6, sqm, etc

2014-01-21 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, It would be good for you to put your name and date on this report, so people can understand how current the data is. Hope all's well. I had a fun time at a hackathon in Boston last weekend. Won a prize too (!). See http://medtechboston.com/boston-blue-button-innovation-challenge-meet-th

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] going down the todo list/New GUI

2014-01-21 Thread Rich Brown
On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Fred Stratton wrote: > I would point out that changing theme is likely to give Rich Brown great > difficulty, as it renders his wiki page obsolete. Yes, but... It's easy to make screen shots, and the new GUI is very nice. It works great in a browser.

[Cerowrt-devel] Final wording for CeroWrt SQM Pages (GUI and wiki)?

2014-01-21 Thread Rich Brown
OK, I think we have consensus. I have modified the text of the Setting up SQM page as described in the earlier messages (https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/2014-January/001997.html) The wiki now says: http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_SQM_for_CeroWr

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Final wording for CeroWrt SQM Pages (GUI and wiki)?

2014-01-22 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, Thanks for this update. I think we're content with the behavior/performance of the current code. My note was just obsessing about the words that we present to customers who use CeroWrt. On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:06 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Rich Brow

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] WNDR alternative for higher capacity

2014-02-10 Thread Rich Brown
On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > Rich Brown had contacted linksys. I don't know the current status. I pinged them in mid-January, and got back a "We're really busy right now, but will get back to you soon..." response. I will follow-up this week. >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] still on a quest for a new platform...

2014-02-17 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, > Anyone tried the R7000? > > http://www.myopenrouter.com/download/52625/DD-WRT-K3-for-NETGEAR-R7000-Nighthawk-WiFi-Router-Kong-build/ Saw this review on Amazon that somewhat speaks to this... http://www.amazon.com/review/R3SDRMEYEJHURA/ref=cm_srch_res_rtr_alt_2 Rich

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Friends don't let friends run factory firmware

2014-02-18 Thread Rich Brown
More excitement... https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/Linksys+Worm+TheMoon+Summary+What+we+know+so+far/17633 ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] just when I thought it was safe to do a release

2014-02-21 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Fred and Sebastian, I just want to say that I have enjoyed reading this thread. Even though I'm an electrical engineer by training, I sorta thought DSL "just worked" - plug the phone line in one side of the modem, plug the router into the other, and Presto! You're on the air. I had no idea t

[Cerowrt-devel] Equivocal results with using 3.10.28-14

2014-02-24 Thread Rich Brown
e posted the results of my netperf-wrapper trials at http://richb-hanover.com - There are a number of RRUL charts, taken with different link rates configured, and with different link layers. I welcome people's thoughts for other tests/adjustments/etc. Rich Brown Hanover, NH USA PS I did tr

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Equivocal results with using 3.10.28-14

2014-02-25 Thread Rich Brown
hanges were made to both that give better UDP results. > > -Aaron > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Rich Brown wrote: > > CeroWrt 3.10.28-14 is doing a good job of keeping latency low. But... it has > two other effects: > > - I don't get the full &qu

[Cerowrt-devel] Better results from CeroWrt 3.10.28-16

2014-03-02 Thread Rich Brown
I took some time this weekend, and ran careful speed and latency tests on the CeroWrt 3.10.28-16 build. I have a much better understanding of how all this works, both in theory and in practice. Here's an executive summary of the overall test procedure with lots of details below. Adjusting CeroW

[Cerowrt-devel] pingstats.sh script to measure and record latency

2014-03-02 Thread Rich Brown
in/sh # pingstats.sh - Script to start pinging a host and # produce summary of the response times after receiving a Ctl-C # Usage: sh pingstats.sh [ host name/ip to ping ] # If there is an option, it is treated as the name/address to ping # Default is gstatic.com # Copyright (c) 2014 - Rich Brown #

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Better results from CeroWrt 3.10.28-16

2014-03-02 Thread Rich Brown
b 0p requeues 0 maxpacket 0 drop_overlimit 0 new_flow_count 0 ecn_mark 0 new_flows_len 0 old_flows_len 0 qdisc ingress : parent :fff1 Sent 278307120 bytes 467944 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0) backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 > > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:18

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Better results from CeroWrt 3.10.28-16

2014-03-02 Thread Rich Brown
Sebastian, > Currently there is no default auto tuning, the user needs to put the > word auto into the "target" fields in the queue discipline tab in SQM (which > is only exposed after selecting "show advanced configuration" and "show > dangerous configuration", not very user friendly, at

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Better results from CeroWrt 3.10.28-16

2014-03-02 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, > Target 30ms would be interesting. 30+ % packet loss on this test (and > your link is still operable!) Wait. How can you detect the packet loss from the data I sent along? > At your speed range the behavior of the tcp upload is governed by the > initial window size more than anything else

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Better results from CeroWrt 3.10.28-16

2014-03-02 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, I got the wireshark info. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21403660/RRUL-Wireshark.zip It was my intent to replicate the RRUL -p all_scaled test with both 'auto' and '30ms' for the egress target. I hope I got it correct - both the settings and the wireshark capture. Rich __

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Better results from CeroWrt 3.10.28-16

2014-03-03 Thread Rich Brown
u/21403660/RRUL-json.zip > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Rich Brown wrote: >> Dave, >> >> I got the wireshark info. >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21403660/RRUL-Wireshark.zip >> >> It was my intent to replicate the RRUL -p all_scaled test wit

[Cerowrt-devel] Odd loss of connectivity with CeroWrt 3.10.28-16

2014-03-05 Thread Rich Brown
Sebastian's note reminded me I also had trouble with connectivity, my problem came with 3.10.28-16. I flashed it (tftp) last weekend onto my WNDR3700v2 and it seemed fine. I then used it for all the netperf experiments that I posted on Sunday. Shortly thereafter, I went out for a while. When I

[Cerowrt-devel] Got Bloat?

2014-03-14 Thread Rich Brown
I'm riding on the bus to Boston. It's wifi equipped, but the connection's terribly slow. A ping (attached) shows: - No responses for 10 seconds, then the first ping returns. (!) - This trace gets as bad as 12 seconds, but I have seen another with 20 seconds I wonder what it would take to get th

[Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10 Release Notes page updated for 3.10.32-9

2014-03-18 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I have updated the 3.10 Release Note page to match my understanding of the 3.10.32-9 release of 14 March 2014. It would be good to get more eyes on the page to look for inconsistencies, outright errors, omissions, etc. It's at: http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/CeroWrt_31

[Cerowrt-devel] Updates to the wiki for 3.10.32-12

2014-03-24 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I updated the wiki to incorporate features of 3.10.32-12. - The SQM page has been updated to include current screen shots and describe the options. A question: what are the units for the Hard Limit on ingress/egress? http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_SQM_for_C

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Updates to the wiki for 3.10.32-12

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Brown
Thanks for those comments. I have updated these pages: http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/CeroWrt_310_Release_Notes http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_SQM_for_CeroWrt_310 Rich PS The updated GUI is available through System -> Language and Style (select "Bo

[Cerowrt-devel] speedtest.sh script available

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Brown
I have created a 'speedtest.sh' shell script that simulates the http://speedtest.net, but does it one better. The default options for the script do a separate TCP_MAERTS and TCP_STREAM for 60 seconds while collecting ping latency. The output of the script shows the down/upload speed as well as

[Cerowrt-devel] betterspeedtest.sh (was: speedtest.sh script available)

2014-03-26 Thread Rich Brown
You can get it from my CeroWrtScripts git repo: https://github.com/richb-hanover/CeroWrtScripts It also includes the config-cerowrt.sh that I use to get consistent settings after flashing firmware, and my tunnelbroker.sh script that sets up a 6in4 tunnel. On Mar 25, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Dave Taht

[Cerowrt-devel] More on netperf.richb-hanover.com

2014-03-27 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, In the betterspeedtest.sh note, I mentioned that I stood up a netperf server at netperf.richb-hanover.com for the world to use. It seems to be handling the load, but I still want to keep an eye on it. I also wanted to learn about Node.js and some of the associated modules and libraries.

[Cerowrt-devel] Oh, yes... netperf6.richb-hanover.com is available

2014-03-28 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, Although I didn't mention it, my VPS has always had IPv6 capabilities at netperf6.richb-hanover.com. You can run betterspeedtest.sh against an IPv6 netserver with: sh betterspeedtest.sh -H netperf6.richb-hanover.com You can also check the load on it at http://netperf.richb-hanover.com.

[Cerowrt-devel] Definitional Jiu-jitsu (was Re: 3.10.32-12 results on Free.fr)

2014-04-01 Thread Rich Brown
On Apr 1, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > One thing I've noticed is the academic community is now seemingly defining > "bufferbloat" as something that happens with > 200ms induced queuing > delay delay, where I (we) define it as "excessive queueing", and in > this group, are "settling" for

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Dyn.com Ends Free Dynamic DNS on May 7

2014-04-07 Thread Rich Brown
On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: > I assume this is a hook that OpenWRT puts into the firmware, not > something added by CeroWRT. I wonder if they'll keep it in the code: > >http://dyn.com/blog/why-we-decided-to-stop-offering-free-accounts/ I would hope they keep it the

[Cerowrt-devel] ZDnet & Linksys WRT1900AC

2014-04-18 Thread Rich Brown
Larry Seltzer at ZDnet.com posted a short note about the new Linksys router. I posted a response. http://www.zdnet.com/first-look-belkin-revives-updates-linksys-wrt-router-728561/ I'm trying to send Larry a direct response so he can ask more questions if he's interested. Rich _

[Cerowrt-devel] Another wifi hang (3.10.32-12)?

2014-04-21 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I lost my 2.4GHz wifi yesterday after about two weeks of uptime. 5GHz worked fine. Both the failing machines were OSX laptops or iPads, but I failed to check with my Windows or Android devices. We had been away for ~24 hours, and had not been using it heavily before we left. Since ther

[Cerowrt-devel] Information to collect if wifi hangs

2014-04-21 Thread Rich Brown
The following information was culled from the cerowrt-devel mailing list from April 2014. I don't know if it's relevant for the current 3.10.36... versions, so please update this list and then I'll publish it to the wiki. Rich If wifi seems to hang using CeroWrt, pleas

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] core infrastructure initiative

2014-04-24 Thread Rich Brown
See also the LibreSSL effort, where they're hacking and slashing out ("flensing" - look it up) all the old cruft from OpenSSL to produce something less byzantine, more maintanable: - http://www.libressl.org/ - their main site - http://richb-hanover.com/libressl-fork-of-openssl/ - an excerpt of s

[Cerowrt-devel] Updated betterspeedtest.sh and other scripts

2014-05-01 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I have updated a number of scripts for CeroWrt. Interesting changes include: - betterspeedtest.sh now initiates multiple streams (default is 5) so that it really saturates the link during the (separate) download and upload phases. - netperfrunner.sh allows you to change the number of si

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Dnsmasq-discuss] Problems with DNSsec on Comcast, with Cero 3.10.38-1/DNSmasq 4-26-2014

2014-05-01 Thread Rich Brown
On May 1, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Simon Kelley wrote: > On 30/04/14 18:26, Dave Taht wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Phil Pennock >> wrote: snip, snip snip... >> Is the consensus to not run with negative proofs on at this juncture? > > If you want stuff to just work, turn off negative p

[Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt git clone - gets "Unable to find remote helper for 'https'" error

2014-05-07 Thread Rich Brown
I was trying to use git to clone the CeroWrtScripts repository (https://github.com/richb-hanover/CeroWrtScripts) into my router, but I hit a snag. When I issue the 'git clone ...' command, I get the following error on 3.10.32-12: --- root@cerowrt:/usr/lib/CeroWrtScripts# git clone https://githu

[Cerowrt-devel] Cisco article about Bufferbloat

2014-05-07 Thread Rich Brown
Cisco posted a note re: Bufferbloat and their PIE algorithm the other day. I added a comment that gives a little more background about the history of the problem, and acknowledges the work from the Bufferbloat project team, kernel developers, and other industry players to produce a good result.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt git clone - gets "Unable to find remote helper for 'https'" error

2014-05-07 Thread Rich Brown
sh config-cerowrt.sh networkhammer.sh README.md cerostats.shnetperfrunner.shtunnelbroker.sh See the original github.com repo at: https://github.com/richb-hanover/CeroWrtScripts Rich On May 7, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Rich Brown writes: > &g

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Cisco article about Bufferbloat

2014-05-09 Thread Rich Brown
Thanks, Jesper, On May 8, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2014 09:20:51 -0400 > Rich Brown wrote: > >> Cisco posted a note re: Bufferbloat and their PIE algorithm the other day. >> >> I added a comment that gives a little more b

[Cerowrt-devel] fq_codel is two years old

2014-05-14 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I just noticed that the announcement for the first testable implementation of fq_codel was two days ago today - 14 May 2012. Build 3.3.6-2 was the first to include working fq_codel. https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/2012-May/000233.html Two years later, we see fq_cod

[Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.40-5 got "ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x004!" after 9 days...

2014-05-29 Thread Rich Brown
I was updating the CeroWrtScripts page on the Bufferbloat.net site (http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/CeroWrtScripts) and for grins, I ran the cerostats.sh script on my router to see what it had to say for itself. I'm running CeroWrt 3.10.40-5 (not the latest 3.10.40-6) on my WND

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Help on advertising IPv6

2014-05-29 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Maciej, I have not tested that script for a long while, so I'm not certain that it's completely working. (I know it worked fine in the 3.7.5 time frame, but there's been a ton of work since then.) I'd welcome any input on the script/CeroWrt config for the HE 6in4 tunnel. BTW: For ease of ma

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] mdnsd in cerowrt-3.10.44-3

2014-06-18 Thread Rich Brown
On Jun 17, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > Disable one on your first boot. (/etc/init.d/avahi-daemon disable > or /etc/init.d/mdnsd disable). I'd like it if people explored mdsnd > with awareness that it doesn't proxy yet... How do I enable mDNS using mdnsd for ge00 on my secondary router?

[Cerowrt-devel] Dave Täht quoted in the ACLU blog

2014-06-24 Thread Rich Brown
See the second paragraph of: https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty/we-want-internet-providers-respond-internet-demand-not-shape-it signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-de

[Cerowrt-devel] Check out www.speedof.me - no Flash

2014-07-20 Thread Rich Brown
Doc Searls (http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2014/07/20/the-cliff-peronal-clouds-need-to-climb/) mentioned in passing that he uses a new speed test website. I checked it out, and it was very cool… www.speedof.me is an all-HTML5 website that seems to make accurate measurements of the up and dow

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Check out www.speedof.me - no Flash

2014-07-25 Thread Rich Brown
ocess - > its to do with incorrect inference and hence missing the buffering effects. > > On 20 Jul 2014, at 14:19, Rich Brown wrote: > >> Doc Searls >> (http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2014/07/20/the-cliff-peronal-clouds-need-to-climb/) >> mentioned in passing that he

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Check out www.speedof.me - no Flash

2014-07-25 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Neil, > I have a deep worry over this style of single point measurement - and hence > speed - as an appropriate measure. We know, and have evidence, that > throughput/utilisation is not a good proxy for the network delivering > suitable quality of experience. We work with organisation (Telco

[Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.50-1 field report

2014-07-30 Thread Rich Brown
Comments on the CeroWrt 3.10.50-1 build that I installed on my WNDR3700v2 primary router: • Seemed to install and configure properly (I dl’d the updated version with the lighthttpd fix) • I used a local copy of config-cerowrt.sh (from https://github.com/richb-hanover/CeroWrtScr

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bug #442] status?

2014-08-16 Thread Rich Brown
> I will try to keep an eye and report back. You know what would be > really useful? A breakdown of all the useful logs that one would need > to provide when reporting on a bug. > > Even more user-friendly would be a script that generates all relevant > information/logs to debugging. Perhaps one

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-11 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, I'll sign too. (And I like the 98th percentile measure for each direction to give a single number that represents what's happening. It could include ping loss rate, as well...) But more importantly, an open letter would likely be more powerful than the results I got from sending a note t

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-11 Thread Rich Brown
Jonathan, > Could we make use of the existing test servers (running netperf) for that > demonstration? How hard is the protocol to fake in Javascript? Not having coded a stitch of this, I *think* it would require the following: - Web page on netperf-xxx.bufferbloat.net that served out the java

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-12 Thread Rich Brown
On Sep 12, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:13:19 -0400 > Rich Brown wrote: > >> I'll sign too. (And I like the 98th percentile measure for each >> direction to give a single number that represents what's happening. It

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] problems with auto config script

2014-09-22 Thread Rich Brown
catch! I'll update the scripts soon. Thanks. Rich Brown On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: > changing the internal address and I got: > > Changing IP subnets to 10.0.44.1 and 1.44.0.10 > sed: can't create temp file '/etc/chroot/named/etc/bind/*/*K4sTR

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Isn't right with the configuration script

2014-09-23 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Eric, > I changed the internal subnet and it looks like everything changes correctly > but what happens is the interface comes up and I can ping it. I see IPv6 > traffic coming from it (I believe) but there's no IPv4 response .I should see > if I can set up my Linux machine as IPv6 and see i

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] how's everybody's uptime?

2014-09-27 Thread Rich Brown
Hokey pokey! CeroWrt sez... 53d 22h 38m 21s This is great! Everything seems to be fine. mdns, routing, low bloat, etc. I have not fired up a Hurricane Electric tunnel, but perhaps I should. Dave: you can feel justified in taking a victory lap! Rich On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Dave Taht wrote

[Cerowrt-devel] Update: IPv6 tunnel through Hurricane Electric

2014-11-04 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, Not having looked at the 6in4 tunnel through Hurricane Electric since the spring, I decided to try it again. The script on the wiki (http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki) didn't work out of the box, and I discovered that OpenWrt (and therefore CeroWrt) needs a tweak to a par

[Cerowrt-devel] Updated IPv6 tunnelbroker.sh script

2014-11-17 Thread Rich Brown
d from github whenever there's a new build of CeroWrt. Please get back to me if you have any questions. Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com +1 603-262-3957 (land line) +1 603-252-7005 (cell) signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail __

[Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: Update to betterspeedtest.sh and netperfrunner.sh

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, Alan Jenkins wrote: > I wondered how netperfrunner managed to induce so much more latency than > betterspeedtest.sh. It turns out netperfrunner was pinging the wrong host. It > was pinging the target netperf server, instead of the closer gstatic.com. Alan's changes have been pulled into

[Cerowrt-devel] Add a vlan on ge00?

2014-12-06 Thread Rich Brown
I'm using a Comtrend AR-5831u DSL modem for my internet access. I've set it up as a bridge, so I have CeroWrt 3.10.50-1 configured to supply the PPP user/password. Everything's working fine. Almost. The problem I'm seeing is that my DSL line is dropping on a regular basis. (several times per da

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Add a vlan on ge00?

2014-12-12 Thread Rich Brown
st networks (but since I did not > get it to work that theory might be bogus as well). > > Oh, if you manage to set this up I would love to get your recepie so > the next time I play with PPPoE I will still have access to the modem… ;) > > Best Regards > Sebas

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