Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Router ethernet devices do not connect to Internet after reboot

2013-12-01 Thread Dave Taht
1) You are on the wrong list, use cerowrt-devel please. 2) it sounds like you are using a buggy development version of cerowrt. We had a couple versions this summer that had dns issues. Please try 3.10.17-6 for the latest decent beta code... If you are feeling especially daring, any later version

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.21-1 development release

2013-12-02 Thread Dave Taht
As best as I recall it was needed for ext4 and btrfs support on mounting external devices, but that was years ago. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Dave, > > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 02:07 , Dave Taht wrote: > >> This is nothing more than a resy

[Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: [uknof] (Updated) UKNOF27: Important information and deadlines

2013-12-02 Thread Dave Taht
I happen to like uknof but won't be going this year. They are still looking for presentations. Anyone? -- Forwarded message -- From: Denesh Bhabuta Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:00 AM Subject: [uknof] (Updated) UKNOF27: Important information and deadlines To: UKNOF (Apologies f

[Cerowrt-devel] tsq add-more-buffering-for-ampdu backport to 3.10 pending

2013-12-08 Thread Dave Taht
I'm not sure to what extent this is affecting my benchmarks but me putting out the next cero is gated on this if it isn't already in there https://www.mail-archive.com/stable@vger.kernel.org/msg60521.html -- Dave Täht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.h

[Cerowrt-devel] ARAMIS: impressive wifi rate and channel width control algorithm for MIMO networks

2013-12-09 Thread Dave Taht
http://cs.ucsb.edu/~laradeek/Secon13.pdf I just met Lara. I am impressed. -- Dave Täht ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wireless failures 3.10.17-3

2013-12-11 Thread Dave Taht
I have the regrettable problem of mostly testing the 5ghz channel due to interference issues on the 2ghz band. What I am seeing in the last several releases of the 3.8.x and 3.10 series is after tons of traffic and multiple days of uptime a DMA tx error which you can see via the logread or dmesg t

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 3.10.23-1 wifi issues

2013-12-11 Thread Dave Taht
thank you for trying. In the olde days I was usually in the same place as the lab and could far more easily test a build. These days I seem only to be able to do the compile and integration steps in the wee hours days or weeks before I get time to get into the lab, and I am, as always, grateful fo

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wireless failures 3.10.17-3

2013-12-13 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Sujith Manoharan wrote: > Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> It is a net gear WNDR3700 v2, so according to: >> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/wndr3700 it is a Atheros AR7161 rev 2 680 >> MHz soc with the following wireless parts: Atheros AR9223 802.11bgn / Atheros >>

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wireless failures 3.10.17-3

2013-12-13 Thread Dave Taht
sn't started Failed to start hostapd for phy1 netifd: Interface 'sw10' is enabled On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Sujith Manoharan wrote: >> Sebastian Moeller wrote: >>> It is a net gear WNDR3700 v2, so accor

[Cerowrt-devel] signed packages

2013-12-13 Thread Dave Taht
so whilst we sort out what broke in the last couple builds (and please don't install them on anything you care about!) I'd wanted to mention something that has been in place for a while. Stephen walker did the original work ages ago, and the ohgf folk picked it up and tested it and helped get it in

[Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-13 Thread Dave Taht
one of the things that makes me happy with all-up testing is that occasionally after completely blowing up my own work, I get to critique fresh work that isn't mine, in an area with which I have no expertise, with gratitude that I don't have to figure out the answer. :) So I spent some time clicki

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Wireless failures 3.10.17-3

2013-12-14 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Sujith Manoharan wrote: > Dave Taht wrote: >> OK, I couldn't help myself but boot up that release. Wet paint! It >> successfully brought up >> the 5ghz radio, but did not manage to assign an ip address to it >> (netifd bug?) and

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Field Report on CeroWrt 3.10.24-1

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Taht
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Rich Brown wrote: > I did a tftp install of CeroWrt 3.10.42-1 on my secondary WNDR3800. I then > used the “secondary” script to reconfigure the subnets and SSIDs to be > different from my primary CeroWrt router. I know that a lot of things are > still in flux, b

[Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: [Cerowrt - Bug #437] (New) bug in initializing wifi interfaces

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Taht
On the minus side we still have trouble bringing up all the interfaces on second boot and later. So I've filed a bug on it, and am making the firmware available for all and sundry to suffer with on this crisp/clear sunday. http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero2/cerowrt/wndr/3.10.24-4/ And I can

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] aqm gui feedback on cerowrt-3.10.24-1 for linklayer adaption

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Taht
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Dave, > > On Dec 14, 2013, at 07:26 , Dave Taht wrote: > >> one of the things that makes me happy with all-up testing is that >> occasionally after completely blowing up my own work, I get to >> criti

[Cerowrt-devel] try this fix for wifi startup on 3.10.24-X [Bug #437]

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Taht
Stephen walker rightly pointed out that netifd has taken over some of the functionality formerly in mac80211.sh. I just merged the code in cero with that, and gave it a shot. http://www.bufferbloat.net/attachments/download/189/mac80211.sh It is looking good here. slam this file into your /lib/wif

[Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: [Cerowrt - Bug #437] bug in initializing wifi interfaces

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Taht
-- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM Subject: [Cerowrt - Bug #437] bug in initializing wifi interfaces To: Issue #437 has been updated by David Taht. Stephen walker rightly pointed out that netifd has taken over some of the functionality formerly

[Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: [Babel-users] ANNOUNCE: Babel-S update

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Taht
I have longed for the source specific functionality for several reasons. I am sore tempted to replace quagga with this version of babeld because: 0) homenet compatible patches for quagga ospf haven't been merged yet 1) I would like to test ipv6 native, 6rd, and several forms of tunnel at the same

[Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Taht
+ hopefully nasty interface initialization bug fixed http://www.bufferbloat.net/issues/437 + dnsmasq 2.68 + pie v4 + latest AQM & AQM GUI code + TSQ fix (part of 3.10.24) + package signing enabled by default - I can get a DMA tx error out of it - untested as a final set of commits because I've bee

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-15 Thread Dave Taht
e not been spending enough time there. It got really chilly this month! But first up is having a release stable enough to do that with... bedtime for buggo, happy testing On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > + hopefully nasty interface initialization bug fixed > http://www

[Cerowrt-devel] treating 2.4ghz as -legacy?

2013-12-16 Thread Dave Taht
I have long used "5" as an indicator that the 5ghz channel was better. This goes back to a long thread on nanog, like 4? 5? years ago, where the hope was to train users that "5" was better. Well, it's turned out that 5 is frequently better, but not always, AND that clients tend to go for the short

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] IPV6

2013-12-18 Thread Dave Taht
The gui is broken on seeing the wan port. It does look like you got dns via ipv6. do an ip -6 addr show at the prompt and see if you have ipv6 assigned on the ge00 and se00 devices, at the very least. Of course, the big win would be to see it on all but the gw11 and gw01 interfaces. Have never

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10 AQM page

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
What's in a name? AQM has been pretty thoroughly defined to equal active queue *length* management and not packet scheduling. Overloading "AQM" what cerowrt does is apt to cause even more confusion in the field than it already does. We discussed using LBO as a word but that appears hopelessly overl

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
I wanted to say how much I was enjoying catching up on this thread. I think only one question came up for me during it, which is support for a bfifo and pfifo qdisc? (if I missed something let me know ) Support for these are darn useful for the research and I have long meant to fold in the modifie

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Babel-users] ANNOUNCE: Babel-S update

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
ing... On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I have longed for the source specific functionality for several > reasons. I am sore tempted to replace quagga with this version of > babeld because: > > 0) homenet compatible patches for quagga ospf haven't been mer

[Cerowrt-devel] Anything but "AQM"

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
Any ideas for a name for packet scheduling, prioritization, and active queue management better than just "AQM", or "QoS"? SQM "Smarter Queue Management" CeroShaper LBO Latency and Bandwidth Optimisation -- Dave Täht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but "AQM"

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM, wrote: > Given that there is no likelihood of making localized queue management > "intelligent" because it has no global information whatsoever, I strongly > suggest that "smart" "intelligent" and even "active" are hugely misleading. > > > > They are based on a co

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Dave, > > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 19:01 , Dave Taht wrote: > >> I wanted to say how much I was enjoying catching up on this thread. >> >> I think only one question came up for me during it, which is

[Cerowrt-devel] increasing the *codel target for DSL at really low bandwidths

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
I have struggled with really low bandwidths. Folk like fred have really struggled with low bandwidths (to the point of switching to pie on his workload, which has a 20ms target), and having got some configuration info from maxime over free.fr (biggest ecn enabled fq_codel'd deployment I know of), a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-5 dev build released

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
Aggh! the unaligned instructions are Baack? That would explain a lot. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Dave, > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 19:01 , Dave Taht wrote: > >> I wanted to say how much I was enjoying catching up on this thread. >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Anything but "AQM"

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
Given that StreamBoost(tm) consists of fq_codel + bigfoots packet classification technology and service which gives prioritization to gamer packets + some kind of automatic rate finder (better than gargoyle's ACC I'm told). I am increasingly irked by how the roles these technologies' interplay are

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Proper AQM settings for my connection?

2013-12-20 Thread Dave Taht
Netanalyzr is inaccurate. It pushes out a udp stream for not long enough fpr codel to react, thus giving you an over-estimate, and furthermore doesn't detect the presence of flow queuing on the link by sending a secondary flow. This latter problem in netanalyzer is starting to bug me. They've known

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] IPV6

2013-12-21 Thread Dave Taht
st6.net is not a good test. That is on both ipv4 and ipv6. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > >> The gui is broken on seeing the wan port. It does look like you got >> dns via ipv6. >> >>

[Cerowrt-devel] saw dnsmasq fix go by this morning

2013-12-22 Thread Dave Taht
Hopefully this will get us away from the restart in rc.local thx jow! commit 52c231ba861bcaae4969e99d8d8b7942fbebe7bf Author: jow Date: Sat Dec 21 13:31:28 2013 + dnsmasq: rework init procedure - cache udhcp check results to speed up subsequent reloads - enable procd

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Cero 3.10.24-5 no longer supports multiple AQMs?

2013-12-22 Thread Dave Taht
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Richard, > > > On Dec 22, 2013, at 09:38 , Richard O wrote: > >> Heya, >> >> I'll try to keep this short, but I'm simply just an end-user of Cero who has >> using it for a few months now. It's been great! So great that I've been >> u

[Cerowrt-devel] instruction traps on tcp_rcv - bug 360 regression - reopened

2013-12-22 Thread Dave Taht
http://www.bufferbloat.net/issues/360 I would be very reluctant to take seriously any benchmarks going to the router until this one is quashed. Really bad behavior (I put a plot up on the bug) Stuff going through the router appears to be sane, but if you are monitoring the router at the same time

[Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-7 "North Pole" development release available

2013-12-22 Thread Dave Taht
+ latest "AQM" code (thx Sebastian!) + fix for the major kernel trap (thx Robert!) + babels src routing support by default (thx Matthieu & babel team!) + dnsmasq reload fixes (thx jow!) + resync with openwrt (thx #openwrt) + Fix for WMM mode in wifi (old patch accidentally dropped) + quagga still a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-7 "North Pole" development release available

2013-12-22 Thread Dave Taht
I installed this remotely to the yurtlab and the box didn't magically reappear. Be cautious with this. I'll be stopping in there tomorrow (monday) On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > + latest "AQM" code (thx Sebastian!) > + fix for the major kernel tra

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-7 "North Pole" development release available

2013-12-23 Thread Dave Taht
ok, I moved that build to a "bad" subdir. Sorry, looks like santa drank too much eggnog over the weekend. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Rich Brown wrote: > Dave, > >> installed this remotely to the yurtlab and the box didn't magically >> reappear. Be cautious with this. >> >> I'll be stoppi

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Cero 3.10.24-5 no longer supports multiple AQMs?

2013-12-23 Thread Dave Taht
hese dirs contain far more data than just what I'm cherry picking above, notably a bunch of simpler tcp up/down/bidir plots. feel free to move around) On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Richard O wrote: > Dave Taht gmail.com> writes: > >> >> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Cero 3.10.24-5 no longer supports multiple AQMs?

2013-12-24 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Richard O wrote: >> Dave Taht gmail.com> writes: >> >> >> Just a pair of quick comments on something you said below. I'll look >> over your scripts later. >> >> There is PLENTY of sense in shaping inbound traf

[Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt-3.10.24-8 "North Pole" development build released

2013-12-24 Thread Dave Taht
+ committed, tagged and pushed + AQM renamed to "SQM" + fixed bootup problems in -7 - busybox config had changed in openwrt (thx toke!) + latest "SQM" code (thx Sebastian & Toke!). + ICMP is now deprioritized (helps vs ping floods and sweeps. hopefully) + fix for the major kernel trap (thx Robert!)

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Testing 3.10.24-8

2013-12-25 Thread Dave Taht
Is there an unshaped version in there for reference? On Dec 25, 2013 3:02 PM, "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" wrote: > Flashed 3.10.24-8 and ran a bunch of tests against it on my VDSL line. > All the data is here: > > http://files.toke.dk/bufferbloat/data/cerowrt-3.10.24-8/ > > which documents my tests

[Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: Re: CeroWrt 3.10.24-8 badly bloated?

2013-12-27 Thread Dave Taht
A race condition appears to have crept in... -- Forwarded message -- From: "Dave Taht" Date: Dec 27, 2013 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.24-8 badly bloated? To: "Richard E. Brown" Cc: Probably didn't start sqm properly Restart it by

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: Re: CeroWrt 3.10.24-8 badly bloated?

2013-12-27 Thread Dave Taht
mons, adding > /etc/init.d/sqm restart > > input the appropriate sqm settings, transcribed from aqm > > rebooted > > and the build works very well. For ADSL2+ here, it is the best so far. > > > On 27/12/13 18:55, Dave Taht wrote: > > A race condition app

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: Re: CeroWrt 3.10.24-8 badly bloated?

2013-12-27 Thread Dave Taht
ec 27, 2013, at 20:20 , Fred Stratton wrote: > > > I have been using pie for approximately 3 weeks. > > > > You are correct, in that the outbound speed is about 800 - 900 kb/s. > > > > I shall try what you suggest, but do not know how to express the target of 25 ms as

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Update to "Setting up SQM for CeroWrt 3.10" web page. Comments needed.

2013-12-27 Thread Dave Taht
You are a very good writer and I am on a tablet. Ill take a pass at the wiki tomorrow. The shaper does up and down was my first thought... On Dec 27, 2013 10:48 AM, "Rich Brown" wrote: > I updated the page to reflect the 3.10.24-8 build, and its new GUI pages. > > > http://www.bufferbloat.net/p

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: Re: CeroWrt 3.10.24-8 badly bloated?

2013-12-27 Thread Dave Taht
t 1:3 limit 1000p flows 1024 quantum > 300 target 5.0ms interval 100.0ms ecn > > qdisc fq_codel 40: dev gw10 parent 1:4 limit 1000p flows 1024 quantum > 300 target 5.0ms interval 100.0ms > > qdisc fq_codel a: dev pppoe-ge00 root refcnt 2 limit 1000p flows 1024 > quantum 1000 t

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #4: What are the major features of simple.qos, simplest.qos, and drr.qos scripts

2013-12-28 Thread Dave Taht
I ended up taking today off and not trying to do an edit, and I'm only going to try to answer this one question tonight as the others are too hard for this time of night. Thank you for breaking your questions down into bite sizes pieces. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Rich Brown wrote: > QUEST

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #1: How does SQM shape the ingress?

2013-12-28 Thread Dave Taht
This is one of the harder questions for even experts to grasp: that ingress shaping is indeed possible, and can be made to work well in most circumstances. Mentally I view it as several funnels. You have a big funnel at the ISP, and create a smaller one on your device. It is still possible for the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds?

2013-12-29 Thread Dave Taht
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Rich Brown wrote: > QUESTION #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds? > > Although we have already spent a lot of time on the list batting around ways > to think about this, it seems to me that there are only two choices for > recommend

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #2: How does CeroWrt use info gleaned from the link layer adaptation?

2013-12-29 Thread Dave Taht
I would like it if we had a couple per-provider recomendations and relevant discussion. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Rich Brown wrote: >>QUESTION #2: How does CeroWrt use info gleaned from the link layer >>adaptation? > > The link layer adaptations work in c

[Cerowrt-devel] been writing all night

2013-12-29 Thread Dave Taht
it is now 5:26 am. I have not had an all night writing or coding binge since I quit smoking back in july. I bought a pack this afternoon. It turns out that chain-smoking has benefits to my writing process... I revised the aqm page http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] been writing all night

2013-12-29 Thread Dave Taht
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > it is now 5:26 am. I have not had an all night writing or coding binge > since I quit smoking back in july. I bought a pack this afternoon. It > turns out that chain-smoking has benefits to my writing process... I > revised the aqm p

[Cerowrt-devel] shaperprobe tests

2013-12-29 Thread Dave Taht
I am pleased to see mlabs has a server up for collections. Given that there was other traffic on this link the results aren't too wildly inaccurate. I do find it amusing that it doesn't detect a shaper on any of my tests so far. Recently I did a whole bunch of interesting traces with stuart chesh

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds?

2013-12-29 Thread Dave Taht
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi list, > On Dec 29, 2013, at 09:53 , Dave Taht wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Rich Brown wrote: >>> QUESTION #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds? >>> >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd

2014-01-03 Thread Dave Taht
At one level I am happy to figure out this is a recently introduced bug. On the other hand I am not sure if it is 6relayd. What version of cero was working for you? On Jan 3, 2014 12:21 AM, "cb.list6" wrote: > Hi, > > I have been using CeroWRT on Comcast with a 3800 for about 6 month. The > DH

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd

2014-01-03 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:50 AM, cb.list6 wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> At one level I am happy to figure out this is a recently introduced bug. >> >> On the other hand I am not sure if it is 6relayd. >> >> W

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd

2014-01-03 Thread Dave Taht
> > Anyway I will migrate all the stuff to odhcpd soon (it's successor which > shares a good part of the codebase but is a bit better integrated with the > rest of the environment). same question re dnsmasq. > > > Regards, > > Steven > > > > On 03.01.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Taht
> The best way to predict the future is to create it. - Alan Kay > > Privacy matters! We know from recent events that people are using our > services to speak in defiance of unjust governments. We treat privacy and > security as matters of life and death, because for some users,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Taht
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Fred Stratton wrote: > Link Names: > > For consistency, if ADSL is used as a portmanteau term, them VDSL should be > used as the equivalent for VDSL and VDSL2. > > CeroWRT has to decide whether it is an experimental build, or something that > will eventually be use

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Taht
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Rich, > > On Jan 4, 2014, at 19:16 , Rich Brown wrote: > >> QUESTION #5: I still don’t have any great answers for the Link Layer >> Adaptation overhead descriptions and recommendations. In an earlier message, >> (see >> https://lis

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Taht
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Steven Barth wrote: > On 03.01.2014 19:43, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> >> I was also experiencing a race condition with dnsmasq, while I had it >> enabling >> ra and dhcpv6 via dnsmasq. At the moment that's turned off by default,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #5: Link Layer Adaptation Overheads

2014-01-06 Thread Dave Taht
On Jan 6, 2014 5:56 AM, "Sebastian Moeller" wrote: > > Hi Dave, hi List, > > On Jan 6, 2014, at 04:29 , Dave Taht wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Fred Stratton wrote: > >> Link Names: > >> > >> For consistency, if ADSL is

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] ADSL2+ modem

2014-01-09 Thread Dave Taht
The only DSL routers I know of that has minimal buffering is the 2 version of this: (Aside from free.fr's gear which doesn't work outside their network) http://www.traverse.com.au/geos21-dual-adsl2-x86-router-appliance David Woodhouse has the "2" version running openwrt. I'd hope the 2.1 version

[Cerowrt-devel] improving performance on wifi under contention

2014-01-11 Thread Dave Taht
There are quite a few things I'd like to try before declaring cerowrt stable. That said, I'm pretty happy with the last release, and can probably live without some long desired features in order to retire the last release. So +1 on the enthusiasm there... I need to write down and publish here the

[Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release

2014-01-13 Thread Dave Taht
I am in strong agreement that cerowrt is close to being ready for a stable release. However there are problems... * Gating factors ** Sync with opewrt's release schedule I have not been tracking what openwrt's plan is for releasing a stable version of "Barrier Breaker". Attitude Adjustment (AA)

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release

2014-01-14 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Juergen Botz wrote: > On 01/14/2014 03:07 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> ** src/dst routing via babels >> >>In the last (3.10.24 dev release I switched to babels from quagga. >> Either nobody but me uses babel (?), or it "just worked&

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release

2014-01-14 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Rich Brown wrote: > Since I kicked off this thread, let me second what David and Toke have said. > > I used the wrong word - "stable" - when I really wanted a new stake in the > ground. Our first was CeroWrt 3.7.5-2 - it was great. I used it for a long > time befor

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release

2014-01-14 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:36 AM, David Personette wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> ** Instruction traps >> >> The instruction trap problem has resurfaced on boot. It is unknown >> what triggers it. It doesn't happen very mu

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release

2014-01-15 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:27 AM, David Personette wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:36 AM, David Personette >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> there is btw, a fix for

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] notes on going for a stable release

2014-01-15 Thread Dave Taht
Welcome aboard! You might get a better feel for the development via visiting the #bufferbloat channel on freenode, although of late I've not been there. I will reform. > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> ** What is CeroWrt? >> >> Originally intended

[Cerowrt-devel] ipsets in openwrt issues

2014-01-15 Thread Dave Taht
I thought ipset had sprouted full ipv6 support a while back which would make for simpler rules like this ipset create egress-ipv4 hash:net ipset add egress-ipv4 127.0.0.0/8 ipset add egress-ipv4 192.168.0.0/16 ipset add egress-ipv4 10.0.0.0/8 ipset add egress-ipv4 172.16.0.0/12 ipset add egress-

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] ipsets in openwrt issues

2014-01-15 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I thought ipset had sprouted full ipv6 support a while back > > which would make for simpler rules like this > > ipset create egress-ipv4 hash:net > > ipset add egress-ipv4 127.0.0.0/8 > ipset add egress-ipv4 192.168.0

[Cerowrt-devel] bcp38 via ipset

2014-01-15 Thread Dave Taht
#!/bin/sh # I am allergic to writing tons and tons of iptables rules. Perhaps # using ipsets instead would be more efficient? # a (borken) start at trying it below: ipset destroy egress-ipv4 ipset destroy egress-ipv6 ipset create bcp38-ip

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] bcp38 via ipset

2014-01-16 Thread Dave Taht
One of the things to fix on the spam filter front on this box is it killing numeric urls so I figure david and I's conversation has been dropped on the floor. I put up the things described so far into a tiny script located at. https://github.com/dtaht/bcp38 It needs to hook into /etc/config/fir

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-16 Thread Dave Taht
Several quick notes: (I am behind on my mail) On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Aaron Wood wrote: > All, > > I'm noting this here in case anyone is interested. After I write this up, > I'm going to start from scratch on the configuration, and factory-reset the > router. > > = > > The 5GHz r

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-16 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:03 , Aaron Wood wrote: > >> All, >> >> I'm noting this here in case anyone is interested. After I write this up, >> I'm going to start from scratch on the configuration, and factory-reset the >> r

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-16 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Aaron Wood wrote: > >>> Sebastian, after sorting out the router, it's still biased, but far >>> less >>> so, about a 2:1 ratio between upload and download. >> >> So I See offen 10:1 and worse @165Mbit/s raw wireless rate > > I get mixed results, but they aren't goo

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-16 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Dave, > > thanks again. > > On Jan 16, 2014, at 23:50 , Dave Taht wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> Hi Aaron, >&g

[Cerowrt-devel] improving security: xinetd

2014-01-16 Thread Dave Taht
in terms of a stable release, improving security some more has been weighing on my mind. One of the things cero does differently than openwrt is that it uses the xinetd daemon. It rather than having things like dropbear or rsync listening directly on ports, and specifically only allows access to c

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd

2014-01-17 Thread Dave Taht
t; I have a spare 3700, so I think I will try some alternate vintages. > > Thanks, > --MM-- > The best way to predict the future is to create it. - Alan Kay > > Privacy matters! We know from recent events that people are using our > services to speak in defiance of unjust

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Managed to break 802.11n (on a 3800)

2014-01-17 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Dave Taht writes: > >> I think --disable-log should be the default... except that for >> everyone not running an AQM the results they will get will need log >> scales... > > Actually, it c

[Cerowrt-devel] ipv6 on comcast - woohoo

2014-01-17 Thread Dave Taht
I have a report of it working... https://plus.google.com/+ValdisKletnieks/posts/JAeJN1UkToC don't know what version of cero it is... -- Dave Täht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html ___ Cerowrt-devel maili

[Cerowrt-devel] an old per-sta queue discussion thread...

2014-01-17 Thread Dave Taht
http://markmail.org/message/ejx4sionlovucvtt -- Dave Täht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerow

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] improving security: xinetd

2014-01-17 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Lang wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Dave Taht wrote: > >> in terms of a stable release, improving security some more has been >> weighing on my mind. >> >> One of the things cero does differently than openwrt >> is that

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd

2014-01-18 Thread Dave Taht
f ge01 () On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Steven Barth wrote: > Fyi as stated earlier i made the switch to odhcpd yesterday. With that i > also switched routing from individual tables to source-constrained routes in > the maintable. > > Cheers, > Steven > > > >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bug #438] 6relayd

2014-01-18 Thread Dave Taht
Date: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd To: Dave Taht Cc: Matt Mathis , "cb.list6" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" That firewall reloading is due to comcast unnecessarily spamming ras every 3 seconds. We already filter it down t

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 6relayd

2014-01-18 Thread Dave Taht
ed_policy 420016:from all iif sw00 failed_policy 420017:from all iif gw00 failed_policy 420018:from all iif gw10 failed_policy root@cerowrt:~# ip -6 route show table 1004 default via fe80::201:5cff:fe62:4e46 dev ge00 proto static metric 1024 > > > Dave Taht schrieb

[Cerowrt-devel] going down the todo list

2014-01-19 Thread Dave Taht
I am going to try to knock out a new release by tomorrow... -1) has minidnssd and upnp been working for others correctly? 0) Presently fooling with a new skin with the gui (it's in 3.10.26-2 - don't! install that unless you merely want to look at the gui). I have no opinion on graphical matters,

[Cerowrt-devel] SQM restart and problems on boot fixed

2014-01-19 Thread Dave Taht
The /etc/hotplug.d/iface/00-debloat script has been wrong in the face of the qos-scripts, aqm-scripts, and stuff inbetween. Thus on a fresh boot, or after a DHCP renew or a variety of other circumstances, the portion of sqm that sets up the egress portion of itself gets wiped out. this explains a

[Cerowrt-devel] looking over ampdu stats

2014-01-19 Thread Dave Taht
in my tests, we almost never see more than 2 AMPDUs stacked up. (just running netperf, not rrul). This could be the fault of the client device I'm using... cat /sys/kernel/debug/ieee80211/phy1/ath9k/queues (note: have set the default be_qlen to the default here) (VO): qnum: 0 qdepth: 0 ampdu-d

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] going down the todo list

2014-01-19 Thread Dave Taht
r xbox360. I currently use a couple raspi/xbmc to make the > media server work. I have tried to configure igmpproxy, but not having any > luck. well there is pimd running by default. or it should be > > Alijah > > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >&g

[Cerowrt-devel] some early rrul tests of comcast ipv6, sqm, etc

2014-01-19 Thread Dave Taht
http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/bev/comcast_native_ipv6/index.html -- Dave Täht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.buffer

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] going down the todo list

2014-01-19 Thread Dave Taht
39.255.255.250) Iif: unresolved (172.30.42.97, 239.255.255.250) Iif: unresolved root@cerowrt:~# ip -s mroute root@cerowrt:~# > What is the command(s) to identify what process is routing multicast? > > Thanks > Alijah > > > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >> &g

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] looking over ampdu stats

2014-01-19 Thread Dave Taht
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Sujith Manoharan wrote: > Dave Taht wrote: >> in my tests, we almost never see more than 2 AMPDUs stacked up. (just >> running netperf, not rrul). > > 2 is the minimum queue depth to aggregate packets. From ath9k.h: > #define ATH_AGGR_MIN_

[Cerowrt-devel] Comcast specific Cerowrt-3.10.26-7: another "too exciting for me" unrelease

2014-01-21 Thread Dave Taht
This is a special release intended only for comcast users with ipv6 capable modems and CMTSes. NOTE: If you are running any form of tunneling for ipv6 (e.g. hurricane) do NOT try this release, as it breaks badly. http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero2/cerowrt/wndr/comcast/3.10.26-7/ I strongly

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Final wording for CeroWrt SQM Pages (GUI and wiki)?

2014-01-21 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Rich Brown wrote: > OK, I think we have consensus. I have modified the text of the Setting up SQM > page as described in the earlier messages > (https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/2014-January/001997.html) > The wiki now says: > http://www.

[Cerowrt-devel] procd support for core daemons?

2014-01-22 Thread Dave Taht
this is not a list of "must haves" but a "would likes". Earlier this year, openwrt started working on a replacement for the first process in the system, the "init" process. Most distros have migrated away from init towards things like systemd (which provide kitchen sink services) Openwrt went in

[Cerowrt-devel] a new chipset and elsewhere a review of streamboost

2014-01-24 Thread Dave Taht
An interesting new chipset: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7526/qualcomm-atheros-announces-new-internet-processor-lineup-ipq8064-and-ipq8062 And streamboost (of which fq_codel is a component) is getting good reviews: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-features/32297-does-qualcomms-strea

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