Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Cake] active sensing queue management

2015-06-12 Thread Daniel Havey
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 12/06/15 02:44, David Lang wrote: >> >> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 03:05 , Alan Jenkins >>> wrote: >>> On 10/06/15 21:54, Sebastian Moeller wrote: One solution would be if IS

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] active sensing queue management

2015-06-12 Thread Daniel Havey
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 6:49 PM, David Lang wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, Daniel Havey wrote: > >> We know that (see Kathy and Van's paper) that AQM algorithms only work >> when they are placed at the slowest queue. However, the AQM is placed >> at the queue that i

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] active sensing queue management

2015-06-12 Thread Daniel Havey
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > thanks for the clarifications. > > On Jun 11, 2015, at 02:10 , Daniel Havey wrote: > >> Hmmm, maybe I can help clarify. Bufferbloat occurs in the slowest >> queue on the path. This i

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] active sensing queue management

2015-06-12 Thread Daniel Havey
Hmmm, maybe I can help clarify. Bufferbloat occurs in the slowest queue on the path. This is because the other queues are faster and will drain. AQM algorithms work only if they are placed where the packets pile up (e.g. the slowest queue in the path). This is documented in Kathy and Van's CoDe