Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Bechtolschiem

2021-07-02 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 2 Jul, 2021, at 7:59 pm, Stephen Hemminger > wrote: > > In real world tests, TCP Cubic will consume any buffer it sees at a > congested link. Maybe that is what they mean by capture effect. First, I'll note that what they call "small buffer" corresponds to about a tenth of a millisecond a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Bechtolschiem

2021-07-02 Thread Matt Mathis via Cerowrt-devel
--- Begin Message --- The argument is absolutely correct for Reno, CUBIC and all other self-clocked protocols. One of the core assumptions in Jacobson88, was that the clock for the entire system comes from packets draining through the bottleneck queue. In this world, the clock is intrinsically br

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Bechtolschiem

2021-07-02 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:42:24 -0700 Dave Taht wrote: > "Debunking Bechtolsheim credibly would get a lot of attention to the > bufferbloat cause, I suspect." - dpreed > > "Why Big Data Needs Big Buffer Switches" - > http://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Whitepapers/BigDataBigBuffers-WP.pdf > Also