Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Starlink] [Bloat] In loving memory of Dave Täht <3

2025-04-01 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Cerowrt-devel
--- Begin Message --- Sad news day. Learned so much from Dave about the network about the importance of sharing ideas, and not to take one self too seriously. Will miss you my friend... Sebastian Moeller > On 1. Apr 2025, at 19:57, Stuart Cheshire via Starlink > wrote: > &g

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] packet captures of sony's new 80Mbit service?

2023-10-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Cerowrt-devel
Hi Mark, > On Oct 11, 2023, at 21:05, Mark Thurston wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:04:41 +0100 Dave Taht wrote --- >> Anyone got a ps4 or ps5 and can take a packet capture at their router? >> Dying to know if it is cubic or bbr in particular >> > > Sorry if this is a silly comment

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] can bus attack

2023-04-13 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Cerowrt-devel
Hi Dave, > On Apr 14, 2023, at 06:04, Dave Taht via Cerowrt-devel > wrote: > > The biggest bug with the early fq_codel deployment was that it dropped > from head and fq'd which led to the prospect of messages sent out of > order on the can protocol, which was not designed for that.. [

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] new beaglebone

2023-03-09 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Cerowrt-devel
Hi Aaron, > On Mar 9, 2023, at 16:43, Aaron Wood via Cerowrt-devel > wrote: > > At least for the sub-1GHz 802.15.4, that’s for range that wifi can’t get, due > to its lower signal loss over distance. > > But 10Mbut Ethernet’s weird (to me) They also have a Gpbs ethernet port: Ether

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] usb3 gigabit adapters

2022-04-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Matt. Over on the OpenWrt forum there are a lot of reports of tp-link's ue300 using an RTL8153 chip working robustly and reliably with speeds up to the expected limit for gigabit ethernet. Reports for Asix model(s) indicate some driver inefficiencies that make it impossible ot reach the exp

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] android, sqm-autorate and lte and videoconferencing

2022-04-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Dear Dave, dear all please, let me introduce Andrew to this list, who is the driving force behind CAKE-autorate's design and implementation (which started from a more theoretical discussion in the OpenWrt forum before turning into something tangible). There are other alternative approaches for

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
N plant every user of that PON will owe the incumbent some money c) control II: no competitor will be able to offer more advanced technology over a PON than its owner. > > /Jonas > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 2:23 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Jonas, > > > > > On

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
om/speedtest/70320015 > https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/70346586 > https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/70346578 Thanks! Best Regards Sebastian > > /Jonas > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 12:55 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Jonas, > > > > On Jan 14, 2

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-14 Thread Sebastian Moeller
; matter, having a SFP that could go right into a SFP enabled home router > > rather than a separate unit seems like a good idea, also > > Yes, but ideally I guess you would also need some control of the OLT side. > You may want to look into the VOLTHA project run by ONF: > &

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-13 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, > On Jan 13, 2022, at 16:59, Dave Taht wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 7:57 AM Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> >> this thread >> https://www.computerbase.de/forum/threads/eigenes-modem-an-ftth-anschluss-via-sfp

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-13 Thread Sebastian Moeller
seems somehow based on an ancient OpenWrt) Regards Sebastian > On Jan 13, 2022, at 15:38, Dave Taht wrote: > > And a gpon onu > > https://www.fs.com/products/133619.html > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 6:23 AM Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> That is similar

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-13 Thread Sebastian Moeller
ht not for a few years (oh, the irony, as I am living literally next door to a central office of the incumbent telco, spanning a fiber cable over less then 20 m should get me FTTH, but I digress) Regards Sebastian > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 6:51 AM Sebastian Moeller wr

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-13 Thread Sebastian Moeller
ave Taht wrote: > > And a gpon onu > > https://www.fs.com/products/133619.html > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 6:23 AM Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> That is similar to what happens in some GPON-ONT SFPs, some run a full small >> Linux distribution like OpenWrt

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP

2022-01-13 Thread Sebastian Moeller
That is similar to what happens in some GPON-ONT SFPs, some run a full small Linux distribution like OpenWrt inside though for ethernet that is unexpected. This is also similar to SFP VDSL "modems" which likely run their own embedded OS as well inside the SFP package (at a time there was eve

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: [PATCH net-next] net_sched: restore "mpu xxx" handling

2022-01-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
No idea, sqm-scripts long had supported htb's linklayer accounting but defaulted to using tc stab instead, and mainly for htb+fq_codel, for cake it defaulted to cake's internal accounting. I have no recollection when I last tested that, probably when I was still on an ADSL link without a releva

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 10gige and 2.5gige

2021-12-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
new ONT and lack of in home 10G kit on > the market. But the access network is there. > > Similar stories in other regions I know of that offer XGPon - lack of > consumer demand, lack of ONTs in the market that are suitable for residential > use. > > > > > &

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 10gige and 2.5gige

2021-12-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
100/40 plan, so a far cry from GPON's local max of 1000/200 let alone XGSPONs yet unkown rate-plans, but I rarely think "if I only had faster internet access" (I will still switch to FTTH ASAP, since I would like not having to bother/monitor the DSL link parameters to check for er

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] 10gige and 2.5gige

2021-12-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
To add to Joel's point, I can do my own catX cable runs and connect sockets/plugs to the cables, but I lack the tools for fiber-splicing... as cool as that would be it is going to be hard to justify multi-100s EUR for a splicer.. That still leaves short distance in the main computing area of an

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] tp-link request for SQM

2021-12-09 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Luca, > On Dec 9, 2021, at 18:38, Luca Muscariello wrote: > > Hi Sebastian > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 17:09 Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Luca > > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 15:58, Luca Muscariello wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 20

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] tp-link request for SQM

2021-12-09 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Luca > On Dec 3, 2021, at 15:58, Luca Muscariello wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 3:35 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Dave, > > > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 15:18, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 4:00 AM Luca Muscariello

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] tp-link request for SQM

2021-12-03 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, > On Dec 3, 2021, at 15:18, Dave Taht wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 4:00 AM Luca Muscariello wrote: >> >> Test using a tp-link AP EAP 245 >> >> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=bbcc5ef5-e677-4f27-aa04-1849db81d0f5 > > Nice. > > A kvetch is that I really wish

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] tp-link request for SQM

2021-12-03 Thread Sebastian Moeller
> On Dec 3, 2021, at 11:10, Kenneth Porter wrote: > > --On Thursday, December 02, 2021 10:48 AM -0800 Dave Taht > wrote: > >> tp-link, is, so far as I know, the last major home router vendor NOT >> shipping a SQM system. Perhaps this could be modded up with someones >> with accounts? >> >>

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] uplink bufferbloat and scheduling problems

2021-12-02 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, you probably had noticed that the cited paper was about LTE/(5G) where the base station operates the scheduler that arbitrates both up- and downstream transmissions. And according to the paper that ends up in bursting on the upstream (I wonder how L4S with its increases burst sensiti

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Starlink] TCP_NOTSENT_LOWAT applied to e2e TCP msg latency

2021-10-27 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Bob, OWD != RTT/2 seems generically to be the rule on the internet not the exception, even with perfectly symmetric access links. Routing between AS often is asymmetric in it self (hot potato routing, where each AS hands over packets destined to others as early as possible, means that forwa

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] the future is in high speed symmetrical internet speeds!!!!

2021-07-05 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, Well, less asymmetric down/up ratios are certainly worth fighting for (for one NTP should work better). And, as I might add, something that is orthogonal to better router software ;) a fast symmetric link with a craptastic router is still roughly as much fun as a dial-up connection wit

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Looking for MORE SQM Router Recommendations !

2021-03-16 Thread Sebastian Moeller
There is also an io board for the compute module that offers a PCIe slot which might could be used for a real NIC... On 17 March 2021 03:57:24 CET, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> On 17 Mar, 2021, at 3:01 am, David Lang wrote: >> >> This is using the compute module, that does not have any on-board

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] New OpenWrt release fixing several dnsmasq CVEs

2021-01-22 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Could you try to run top or htop and look at the CPU load? I could imagine that the fixes dnsmasq might have some CPU spikes that simply leave not enough cycles for the traffic shaper? Best Regards Sebastian > On Jan 22, 2021, at 22:25, Jonathan Foulkes wrote: > > I figure there shoul

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

2020-07-02 Thread Sebastian Moeller
But is it Turing complete? > On Jul 2, 2020, at 20:04, Dave Taht wrote: > > who knew? > > https://www.ipv6plus.net/ > > -- > "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public > relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman > > d...@taht.net CTO, TekLi

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Cake] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-27 Thread Sebastian Moeller
air" power-boosting are naturally in the same few dozends of seconds range as typical speedtests take, nothing nefarious here. > > Mat > >> On 1 May 2020, at 20:48, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> well, it was a free service and i

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [Cake] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-01 Thread Sebastian Moeller
get an early exit from contracts if the ISPs can not deliver the contracted rates (with a bit of slack))) Best Regards Sebastian > > SERGEY FEDOROV > Director of Engineering > sfedo...@netflix.com > 121 Albright Way | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > > > On

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-01 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, well, it was a free service and it lasted a long time. I want to raise a toast to Justin and convey my sincere thanks for years of investing into the "good" of the internet. Now, the question is which test is going to be the rightful successor? Short of running netperf/irtt/iper2/ip

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] OT: Netflix vs 6in4 from HE.net

2020-03-21 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Rich, since it seems to be IPv6 related, why not use firefox for netflix and disable IPv6 in firefox (see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-cant-load-websites-other-browsers-can#w_ipv6) maybe that works well enough? Best Regards Sebastian > On Mar 21, 2020, at 21:20,

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] OpenWrt 19.07 is out

2020-01-09 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Maciej > On Jan 9, 2020, at 22:58, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: > > Hi, > > In case you haven't seen that happen as it's quite fresh... > OpenWrt 19.07 [1] is out, with ar71xx transitioning to ath79, with WPA3 > support. > > Anybody upgraded their WNDR3800 to ath79-based 19.07 yet? I s

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Ubiquiti Launches a Speed Test Network

2019-09-07 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Pete, If the PayPal ad of an irtt packet would contain the requested DSCP as ascci string (maybe starting with a string like "DSCP: 46: 101110 (EF)" in the first few bytes of the payload would make confirming bleaching/remapping from packetdumps relatively convenient, say just by looking at

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Ubiquiti Launches a Speed Test Network

2019-09-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, > On Sep 7, 2019, at 00:50, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > Sebastian Moeller writes: > >> Hi Toke, >> >> >>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 19:59, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >>> >>> Sebastian Moeller writes: >>>

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Ubiquiti Launches a Speed Test Network

2019-09-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, > On Sep 6, 2019, at 19:59, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > Sebastian Moeller writes: > >> Hi Toke, >> >>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:27, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >>> >>> Mikael Abrahamsson writes: >>> >>>&g

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Ubiquiti Launches a Speed Test Network

2019-09-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, > On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:27, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > >> On Wed, 4 Sep 2019, Matt Taggart wrote: >> >>> So an interesting idea but they have some things they could improve. >> >> I've been considering what one should run in parallel with the spee

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] talking at linux plumbers in portugal next week

2019-09-03 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Not sure this is on-topic, but: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/root-cause-analysis-and-incident-report-on-the-august-ddos-attack-300905405.html https://lists.gt.net/nanog/users/206044 > On Sep 3, 2019, at 16:21, Dave Taht wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 5:23 AM Mikael Abrahamsson

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Internet Speed Measurement: Current Challenges and Future Recommendations

2019-05-17 Thread Sebastian Moeller
ing forward at higher speeds. >>> I do wish the document had pointed out more clearly that router based >>> measurements have problems also, with weaker cpus unable to source >>> enough traffic for an accurate measurement, but I do hope this >>> document has impact

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] (no subject)

2019-05-16 Thread Sebastian Moeller
ance bound on devices to be useful for David's idea, the CPU(s) need to be beefy enough to both shape at Gbps speeds as well as actually generate enough traffic to saturate the link Again thanks a lot for sharing! Best Regards Sebastian > > Best regards, > >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] (no subject)

2019-05-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
source OS running on a docsis modem, same seems true for GPON). Best Regards Sebastian > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:32 AM Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> I believe the following to be relevant to this discussion: >>

[Cerowrt-devel] (no subject)

2019-05-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi All, I believe the following to be relevant to this discussion: https://apenwarr.ca/log/20180808 Where he discusses a similar idea including implementation albeit aimed at lower bandwidth and sans the automatic bandwidth tracking. > On May 15, 2019, at 01:34, David P. Reed wrote: > > >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] fixing dsl redux

2019-04-09 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On April 9, 2019 5:42:46 PM GMT+02:00, Dave Taht wrote: >these chips are apparentlt common these days... anyone have one? Not yet, there is a grx350 modem-router available heret personally I would prefer the 550, which comes with >= 2 x86 (atom, are they still called that?) Cores. But

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] I so love seeing stuff like this

2019-02-02 Thread Sebastian Moeller
> On Feb 2, 2019, at 11:36, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > David Lang writes: > >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019, David Lang wrote: >>> I had high hopes for these, but the driver development is not working well, it's one guy at M

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] security guidelines for home routers

2018-11-28 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Mikael, > On Nov 27, 2018, at 14:34, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2018, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > >> Really, which ones? I would like to know so I can avoid them ;) Just >> joking, but I have never heard of secure booting in the context of MI

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] security guidelines for home routers

2018-11-27 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Mikael, > On Nov 27, 2018, at 12:03, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > >> I guess that most cheap routers do not actually do "secure boot" but rather >> make it hard to flash not-approved firmware binaries fro

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] security guidelines for home routers

2018-11-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, > On Nov 26, 2018, at 19:40, Dave Taht wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:24 AM Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> >> neither the openwrt folks (see https://openwrt.org) nor the chaos computer >> club of germany (see G

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] security guidelines for home routers

2018-11-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Mikael, > On Nov 26, 2018, at 19:35, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > >> And 2) basically is a complaint that there is a weak MAY clause for >> guaranteeing that 3rd party firmware like openwrt is installable. I think

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] security guidelines for home routers

2018-11-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, neither the openwrt folks (see https://openwrt.org) nor the chaos computer club of germany (see German: https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2018/risikorouter, machinenglish: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ccc.de%2Fen%2Fupda

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] wifi trick with comcast

2018-10-09 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Desar All, > On Oct 10, 2018, at 00:22, Jonathan Morton wrote: > >> On 10 Oct, 2018, at 1:06 am, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> >> Wonder what happens if/when the neighbor notices... > > I don't think any neighbour is involved here. He's using his own xfinitywifi > hotspot in parallel wit

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] beating the drum for BQL

2018-08-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Mikael, > On Aug 23, 2018, at 14:47, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, Dave Taht wrote: > >> I/we really should have beat the bql drum harder over the last 6 years. It's >> the basic start to all the debloating. > > It only helps with kernel based forwarding. A lot of dev

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno

2018-07-22 Thread Sebastian Moeller
I believe that cable modems all default to 192.168.100.1, this seems to be backed by "Cable Modem Operations Support System Interface Specification", CM-SP-CM-OSSIv3.1-I04-150611: " • The CM MUST support 192.168.100.1, as the well-known diagnostic IP address accessible only from the CMCI

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Kevin, > On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:15, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant > wrote: > > > >> On 20 Jun 2018, at 09:07, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> >> Hi Kevin, >> >> >>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 09:12, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant >>> wrote

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Kevin, > On Jun 20, 2018, at 09:12, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant > wrote: > > > >> On 20 Jun 2018, at 00:41, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> >>> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 11:34 pm, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >>> >>> Do we have a good cookbook on how to determine the set-rate? >> >> On DSL, the syn

[Cerowrt-devel] (no subject)

2018-06-19 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi all, > On Jun 20, 2018, at 01:32, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > > Well, > > On June 19, 2018 10:34:07 PM GMT+02:00, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:46:18 -0700, Dave Taht said: >> >>> One of cake's "minor" features

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-19 Thread Sebastian Moeller
On June 20, 2018 1:41:19 AM GMT+02:00, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 11:34 pm, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> >> Do we have a good cookbook on how to determine the set-rate? > >On DSL, the sync rates in each direction should usually be readable >from the modem; they are typi

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies

2018-06-19 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Well, On June 19, 2018 10:34:07 PM GMT+02:00, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:46:18 -0700, Dave Taht said: > >> One of cake's "minor" features is the *perfect* defeat of the htb >> based shaper in cable modems. If you know the set-rate on the modem, >> you just set it to the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] sqm deployment

2018-06-15 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Question: does anybody know what hides behind eero's sqm name? Best Regards Sebastian On June 15, 2018 8:03:33 PM GMT+02:00, Dave Taht wrote: >I didn't know streamboost was still a thing. > >https://www.snbforums.com/threads/list-of-smart-queue-management-sqm-routers.47183/ > >And I lik

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: The 2017 Mirai

2017-01-05 Thread Sebastian Moeller
There also is the Mitsubishi pajero competing for the crown of unfortunate names (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero for alternative meanings of pajero besides giving a nod to Leopardus pajeros the pampas cat). I guess the Toyota and the Mitsubishe comnpete in different discupli

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] linksys 1200ac lockout problem still exists

2016-11-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
:36, Dave Taht wrote: > > this a to-the-router test, not a through the router test. > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >> Sebastian Moeller writes: >> >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 20:30, Da

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] linksys 1200ac lockout problem still exists

2016-11-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, when I use tcp_12down instead of tcp_ndown I end up with something looking sane (see attached image?) Also: Summary of tcp_12down test run at 2016-11-20 20:16:54.350770: avg / median # data pts Ping (ms) ICMP :54.08 /53.75

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] linksys 1200ac lockout problem still exists

2016-11-20 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, > On Nov 20, 2016, at 20:30, Dave Taht wrote: > > Has the omnia got this problem? Not sure, following your recipe from the LEDE bug, I attempted: bash-3.2$ ./run-flent -H netperf-eu.bufferbloat.net –test-parameter=download_streams=12 tcp_ndown Fatal error: Hostname lookup failed for h

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Turris Omnia

2016-11-07 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi James, hi David, > On Nov 7, 2016, at 06:29, James Cloos wrote: > >> "DL" == David Lang writes: > > DL> I wonder if you are running into the problem with encryption and > DL> packet re-ordering that was solved a couple months ago, try disabling > DL> fq_codel or test without encryption

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Making AQM harder...

2016-08-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Dear all, It looks like I forgot the link to the ms announcement: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/networking/2016/07/18/announcing-new-transport-advancements-in-the-anniversary-update-for-windows-10-and-windows-server-2016/ On August 13, 2016 12:27:14 AM GMT+02:00, "Dave Täht" wrote: > >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] more well funded attempts showing market demandfor better wifi

2016-06-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On June 27, 2016 2:00:55 AM GMT+02:00, David Lang wrote: >I don't think anyone is trying to do simultanious receive of different >stations. >That is an incredibly difficult thing to do right. > >MU-MIMO is aimed at haivng the AP transmit to multiple stations at the >same >time. For th

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] trying to make sense of what switch vendors say wrt buffer bloat

2016-06-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi, Maybe https://github.com/jwbensley/Etherate/blob/master/README.md could be of use here? Have not used it myself but it seems to at least partly match your requirements based on reading the readme... Best Regards Sebastian On June 10, 2016 11:45:30 PM GMT+02:00, dpr...@reed.com wrote

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Linksys wrt1900acs rrul traces ko

2016-04-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi John, On April 8, 2016 3:55:21 PM GMT+02:00, John Yates wrote: >Sebastian, > >Recently you wrote: > >In your case select Ethernet with overhead, and manually put 24 into >these >> packet overhead field, as the kernel already accounted for 14 of the >total >> of 38. >> > >and further down: mi >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Linksys wrt1900acs rrul traces

2016-04-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Richard, On April 8, 2016 1:51:11 PM GMT+02:00, Richard Smith wrote: >On 04/07/2016 12:16 PM, moeller0 wrote: >> Hi Richard, >> >>> For these tests I had the inbound and outbound limits set to 975000 >>> kbps. 975000 was somewhat arbitrary. I wanted it below 1Gbps >>> enough that I could

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] so much happens in the background nowadays

2015-12-02 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Dec 2, 2015, at 17:12 , Dave Taht wrote: > thx, all, for: > > https://github.com/tohojo/sqm-scripts/issues/19 Glad you like it ;) It seems we went a bit too far and will need to introduce a few more lines per invocation (currently we sort of declare success before all we

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] processor pr0n

2015-11-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:01 , Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Dave Taht wrote: > >> http://solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/clearfog/clearfog-specifications/ > > Armada 385 is still my favorite. > > Turris Omnia looks promising: > > http://www.netnod.se/sites/default/files/

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm (solved)

2015-10-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, On Oct 26, 2015, at 19:15 , David Lang wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015, Dave Taht wrote: > >> in terms of testing wifi, the most useful series of tests to conduct >> at the moment - since we plan to fix per station queuing soon > > how soon is 'soon'? I'm going to be building my image f

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Problems testing sqm (solved)

2015-10-26 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Toke, On Oct 26, 2015, at 14:50 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Sebastian Moeller writes: > >> So, I have no recipe for home-brew, but I use the attached as >> local ports collection under macports to get flent to run: > > You mind if I put this tuto

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm (solved)

2015-10-25 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Richard, On Oct 25, 2015, at 21:02 , Richard Smith wrote: > On 10/25/2015 01:36 PM, Rich Brown wrote: > >> We really do believe in this stuff. We've seen it work. But each of >> us is enough of a scientist to believe that *we could be wrong*. (I >> suspect that's why you really got everyone'

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm (solved)

2015-10-25 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Richard, On Oct 25, 2015, at 17:07 , Richard Smith wrote: > On 10/25/2015 11:10 AM, Richard Smith wrote: > >> So I started to try and re-create my steps for failure.. I _am_ able to >> duplicate the problem but I'm not able to figure out how. It seems to >> just come and go irrespective o

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
nsmission delay so he might know already whether sqm has issues with 1GE lans. Best Regards Sebastian > > On Oct 24, 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi David, > > On Oct 24, 2015, at 00:53 , David P. Reed wrote: > > In particular, the DUT should probably

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Oct 24, 2015, at 12:20 , Dave Taht wrote: > Another thought is that this hardware agressively does GRO - 64k > "packets"really messes up htb. We already showed that problem in the > previous generation. Good point. To disable the offloads one needs to disable offloads for a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, On Oct 24, 2015, at 00:53 , David P. Reed wrote: > In particular, the DUT should probably have no more than 2 packets of > outbound queueing given the very small RTT. 2xRTT is the most buffering you > want in the loop. Let’s not haggle about the precise amount of queueing w

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, On Oct 24, 2015, at 00:48 , David P. Reed wrote: > Sqm is a way to deal with the dsl or cable modem having bufferbloat. In the > configuration described neither end is the problem ... the DUT itself may > have bufferbloat. But our claim is that we “solved” (at least wired) b

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi David, On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:57 , David Lang wrote: > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Aaron Wood wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Richard Smith wrote: >> >>> I have a shiny new Linksys WRT1900ACS to test. >>> >>> I thought it might be nice to start with some comparisons of factory >>> f

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Richard, On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:30 , Richard Smith wrote: > On 10/23/2015 01:02 PM, Alan Jenkins wrote: > >>> Go the sqm tab in the GUI and set egress and ingress to 1, set the >>> interface to the upstream interface, click enable, click save and >>> apply. Everything else is left at de

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Aaron, On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:22 , Aaron Wood wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Richard Smith wrote: > I have a shiny new Linksys WRT1900ACS to test. > > I thought it might be nice to start with some comparisons of factory firmware > vs OpenWRT with sqm enabled. > > Here are

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Alan, hi Richard, On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:02 , Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 23/10/2015, Richard Smith wrote: >> I have a shiny new Linksys WRT1900ACS to test. >> >> I thought it might be nice to start with some comparisons of factory >> firmware vs OpenWRT with sqm enabled. >> >> So I built an

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Richard, On Oct 23, 2015, at 18:43 , Richard Smith wrote: > On 10/23/2015 12:13 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >> you are most likely applying the qdisc to the wrong ethernet device or >> ethernet vlan. > > In the cerowrt case it was applied to ge00. If that's not the correct device > then which one

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problems testing sqm

2015-10-23 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Richard, On Oct 23, 2015, at 18:10 , Richard Smith wrote: > I have a shiny new Linksys WRT1900ACS to test. Nice, I am quite curious how this performs... > > I thought it might be nice to start with some comparisons of factory firmware > vs OpenWRT with sqm enabled. Good

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] this was a pretty comprehensive guide to how the 5.x spectrum is actually used

2015-09-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Dave, On Sep 12, 2015, at 15:52 , Dave Taht wrote: > http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022123531 > > starting at section 2.82 around page 27. > > based on this, I am inclined to drop the "just fix the weather radars" > idea from the fcc comment letter. But a bit more thought and an

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [tsvwg] Comments on draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e

2015-07-30 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jonathan, On July 30, 2015 11:56:23 PM GMT+02:00, Jonathan Morton wrote: >Hardware people tend to think in terms of simple priority queues, much >like >old fashioned military communications (see the original IP precedence >spec). Higher priority thus gets higher throughput as well as lower

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [tsvwg] Comments on draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e

2015-07-30 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jonathan, nice information about the competing schemes (and I do not consider my rant a proposed scheme ;) ) But looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11e-2005 I learn that AC_VO gets 1.5ms guaranteed TXOP (roughly air-time), AC_VI gets 3ms and BE and BK only get a single MSDU.

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] Fwd: [tsvwg] Comments on draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e

2015-07-24 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Oh, boy, On Jul 23, 2015, at 09:49 , Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 23/07/15 08:44, Jonathan Morton wrote: >> >> Link to the spec? >> >> - Jonathan Morton >> >> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e/ Not that I am a domain expert, but the whole web of s

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
ufferbloat.net. Takes about 150 seconds. > Download: 5.92 Mbps > Upload: 0.46 Mbps > Latency: (in msec, 152 pings, 0.00% packet loss) > Min: 71.877 >10pct: 76.197 > Median: 85.051 > Avg: 84.838 >90pct: 92.105 > Max: 109.600 > >

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
terested to learn how this now performs with netperfrunner and/or betterspeedtest.sh Best Regards Sebastian > Sent 90 bytes 1 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0) > backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 > Class 0 > rate 8500Kbit > target 5.0ms > interval

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
hat means there might be some undiscovered bugs in there. > > no overhead allowance. I note. Well, that should work with the most recent version Best Regards Sebastian > > > > On 10/07/15 20:40, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> Hi Fred, >> >&g

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
gt; Pk delay 0us 0us 0us 0us >> Av delay 0us 0us 0us 0us >> Sp delay 0us 0us 0us 0us >> pkts 0 0 0 0 >> way inds 0

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
41 bytes 435 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0) > backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 But this is the hallmark of out of date sqm-scripts, this just uses cake as leaf qdisc and keeps HTB as the main shaper; a configuration that is useful for testing. I assume this is the old set of sqm-scri

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jonathan, hi Fred, On Jul 10, 2015, at 21:18 , Jonathan Morton wrote: >> qdisc cake 8002: dev pppoe-wan root refcnt 2 bandwidth 850Kbit besteffort >> flows raw > >> qdisc cake 8001: dev ifb4pppoe-wan root refcnt 2 bandwidth 11500Kbit >> besteffort flows atm overhead 40 > >> Download: 6.8

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Correct syntax for cake commands and atm issues.

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Fred, your results seem to indicate that cake is not active at all, as the latency under load is abysmal (a quick check is to look at the median in relation to the min and the 90% number, in your examples all of these are terrible). Could you please post the result of the following commands

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, On Jul 10, 2015, at 09:22 , Joe Touch wrote: > > >> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: >>> >>> Some questions: >>> On 7/6/2015 11:16 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: ... You can flash back the factory fir

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, On Jul 8, 2015, at 22:28 , Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, Sebastian, > > On 7/8/2015 1:15 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> Hi Joe, >> >> On Jul 8, 2015, at 20:37 , Joe Touch wrote: > ... >>> The other step, IMO, would be two flags in the OpenWRT list o

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, On Jul 8, 2015, at 20:37 , Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, Matt, > > On 7/7/2015 11:19 AM, Matt Taggart wrote:... >> This message made me realize I hadn't posted the CC+SQM HOWTO I >> wrote, maybe it will be useful, >> >> https://we.riseup.net/lackof/openwrt > > FWIW, this is a big step in the

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-07 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, I like your snark… And I like Rich’s elegant restraint in his response, always polite always friendly. On Jul 7, 2015, at 06:22 , Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, Rich, > > On 7/6/2015 7:23 PM, Rich Brown wrote: >> Hi Joe, >> >> The OpenWrt firmware project is a "some assembly required" affair

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Build instructions for regular OpenWRT with Ceropackages

2015-07-01 Thread Sebastian Moeller
On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:32 , Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, David Lang wrote: > >> not true, the switch doesn't give any way for traffic to get from one vlan >> to the other one, so if you have gig-e connections on both sides, the >> traffic going from one to the other will hav

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