Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] better business bufferbloat monitoring tools?

2015-05-13 Thread Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
Dave That said - It has generally been my hope that most of the big movie streaming folk have moved to some form of pacing by now but have no data on it. (?) Bill VerSteeg replies - Based on my recent tests, the production ABR flows are still quite bursty. There has been some work done in this

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] better business bufferbloat monitoring tools?

2015-05-13 Thread Jim Gettys
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Bill Ver Steeg (versteb) wrote: > Time scales are important. Any time you use TCP to send a moderately large > file, you drive the link into congestion. Sometimes this is for a few > milliseconds per hour and sometimes this is for 10s of minutes per hour. > > For

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Replacing CeroWrt with OpenWrt - Routing

2015-05-13 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Rich Brown wrote: > I was close. I had the proper subnetting (CeroWrt router different from the > OpenWrt...). I had tried turning off NAT, and accepting forwarded packets in > the ge00 firewall, but that wasn't enough. > > Alan was right. The missing piece was:

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] better business bufferbloat monitoring tools?

2015-05-13 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Bill Ver Steeg (versteb) wrote: > Time scales are important. Any time you use TCP to send a moderately large > file, you drive the link into congestion. Sometimes this is for a few > milliseconds per hour and sometimes this is for 10s of minutes per hour. > > For

[Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt 3.10.50-1 & mosh

2015-05-13 Thread Rich Brown
I noticed that the mosh-server package doesn't seem to be built for the latest (3.10.50-1) CeroWrt image. It seems to have fallen out of the build system after the 3.10.41-1 build of 31May2014. (see http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero2/cerowrt/wndr/ ) I took the chance that the 3.10.41-1 bu

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Replacing CeroWrt with OpenWrt - Routing

2015-05-13 Thread Rich Brown
I was close. I had the proper subnetting (CeroWrt router different from the OpenWrt...). I had tried turning off NAT, and accepting forwarded packets in the ge00 firewall, but that wasn't enough. Alan was right. The missing piece was: - set a static IP for ge00 on CeroWrt (secondary rou

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] better business bufferbloat monitoring tools?

2015-05-13 Thread Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
Time scales are important. Any time you use TCP to send a moderately large file, you drive the link into congestion. Sometimes this is for a few milliseconds per hour and sometimes this is for 10s of minutes per hour. For instance, watching a 3 Mbps video (Netflix/YouTube/whatever) on a 4 Mbps

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Replacing CeroWrt with OpenWrt - Routing

2015-05-13 Thread Rich Brown
Thanks Alan and Kevin, This is helpful - I think I have enough to go on, and will report back/ask more questions as I move forward. Best, Rich On May 13, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 13/05/15 02:19, Rich Brown wrote: >> I am working to restore the functionality of my CeroWrt 3

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Replacing CeroWrt with OpenWrt - Routing

2015-05-13 Thread Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
On 13/05/15 09:07, Alan Jenkins wrote: On 13/05/15 02:19, Rich Brown wrote: But connecting to the OpenWrt wifi, I cannot ping or telnet to any addresses on the CeroWrt... What am I missing? (This is probably not a deep question: I really don't understand linux routing configuration...) F

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Replacing CeroWrt with OpenWrt - Routing

2015-05-13 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 13/05/15 02:19, Rich Brown wrote: I am working to restore the functionality of my CeroWrt 3.10.50-1 router with an OpenWrt BB image. Things are going pretty well, but I have run into a problem. In the past, I frequently used two CeroWrt routers at my home: one was my primary, and connected vi