Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-28 Thread Bogdan SOLGA
Thank you for the provided information and considerations, David! Our experience with Ubuntu (so far) adheres to your opinion. Nevertheless, we will try CentOS, on the medium / long term. Given the overall reliability of our current setup, it will have to provide significant benefits in order to s

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-28 Thread David Turner
All of that said, the most important factor is in regards to your most expensive asset... personnel. If you have a dozen sysadmins and you're maintaining a few platforms each using their own OS, then your company is wasting a lot of money in your admins dealing with that extra intellectual cost of

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-28 Thread David Turner
Saying Ubuntu doesn't have a place on servers negates your assertion that the OS is a tool and you should use the right tool for the right job. Sometimes you need an OS that updates its kernel more often than basically never. Back when VMs were gaining traction and CentOS 6 was running the 2.6 kern

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-28 Thread Bogdan SOLGA
Thanks for the indirect recommendation; we'll ponder on the switch to CentOS, on the medium / long run. Until then, we're looking forward for best practices and advice from the Ceph community, on running the cluster on Ubuntu 16. Regards, Bogdan On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Marc Roos wrote

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-28 Thread Marc Roos
I hope I can post here a general question/comment regarding distributions. Because I see a lot of stability issues passing by here. Why are people choosing an ubuntu distribution to run in production? Mostly I get an answer like they are accustomed to using it. But is the OS not just a tool?

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-27 Thread David Turner
If you can do an ssh session to the IPMI console and then do that inside of a screen, you can save the output of the screen to a file and look at what was happening on the console when the server locked up. That's how I track kernel panics. On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:53 PM Bogdan SOLGA wrote: >

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-27 Thread Bogdan SOLGA
Thank you very much for the reply, Ilya! The server was completely frozen / hard lockup, we had to restart it via IPMI. We grepped the logs trying to find the culprit, but to no avail. Any hint on how to troubleshoot the (eventual) freezes is highly appreciated. Understood on the kernel recommend

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-27 Thread Ilya Dryomov
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Bogdan SOLGA wrote: > Hello, everyone! > > We have recently upgraded our Ceph pool to the latest Luminous release. On > one of the servers that we used as Ceph clients we had several freeze > issues, which we empirically linked to the concurrent usage of some I/O >

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-27 Thread Bogdan SOLGA
Thanks a lot for the recommendation, David! Are you aware of any drawbacks and / or known issues with using rbd-nbd? On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:47 PM, David Turner wrote: > rbd-nbd is gaining a lot of followers for use as mapping rbds. The kernel > driver for RBD's has taken a while to support

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel version recommendation

2017-10-27 Thread David Turner
rbd-nbd is gaining a lot of followers for use as mapping rbds. The kernel driver for RBD's has taken a while to support features of current ceph versions. The nice thing with rbd-nbd is that it has feature parity with the version of ceph you are using and can enable all of the rbd features you wa