Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-06-13 Thread Josef Johansson
l - De: "Christian Balzer" > À: "Gregory Farnum" >, ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 04:49:16 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices On Wed, 7 May 2014 18:37:48 -0700 Gregory Farnum wrote: On Wed, May 7,

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-06-13 Thread Josef Johansson
without --direct=1 and also enable rbd_cache ceph.conf [client] rbd cache = true - Mail original - De: "Christian Balzer" > À: "Gregory Farnum" >, ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 04:49:16 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared t

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-23 Thread Christian Balzer
low is that the latency happens within the OSD processes. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Christian > > >>> When I suggested other tests, I meant with and without Ceph. One > > >>> particular one is OSD bench. That should b

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
29.58 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/srkB/swkB/s >>>>>>> avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await r_await w_await svctm %util >>>>>>> sda 0.00 51.500.00 1633.50 0.00 7460.00

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-15 Thread Josef Johansson
0 >>>>>> 0.00 2468.50 0.00 13419.0010.87 0.240.10 0.00 >>>>>> 0.10 0.09 22.00 sdd 0.00 6.500.00 1913.00 >>>>>> 0.00 10313.0010.78 0.200.100.000.10 0.09 16.60 >>>>>&

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
te the nearly complete absence of iowait. >>>>> >>>>> sda and sdb are the OSDs RAIDs, sdc and sdd are the journal SSDs. >>>>> Look at these numbers, the lack of queues, the low wait and service >>>>> times (this is in ms) plus overall utilizat

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-14 Thread xan.peng
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Gregory Farnum wrote: > > Hmm, with 128 IOs at a time (I believe I'm reading that correctly?) > that's about 40ms of latency per op (for userspace RBD), which seems > awfully long. Maybe this is off the topic, AFAIK "--iodepth=128" doesn't submits 128 IOs at a time

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-14 Thread Josef Johansson
inal ----- De: "Christian Balzer" > À: "Gregory Farnum" >, ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 04:49:16 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices On Wed, 7 May 2014 18:37:48 -0700 Gregory Farnum wrote: On Wed, May 7

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-14 Thread Christian Balzer
sted other tests, I meant with and without Ceph. One > >>> particular one is OSD bench. That should be interesting to try at a > >>> variety of block sizes. You could also try runnin RADOS bench and > >>> smalliobench at a few different sizes. > >>> -Greg > >>> > >&g

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-14 Thread Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
resting to try at a >>>> variety of block sizes. You could also try runnin RADOS bench and >>>> smalliobench at a few different sizes. >>>> -Greg >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 7, 2014, Alexandre DERUMIER >>>> wrote: >>>&

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-14 Thread Josef Johansson
smalliobench at a few different sizes. >>> -Greg >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 7, 2014, Alexandre DERUMIER >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Christian, >>>> >>>> Do you have tried without raid6, to have more osd ? >>>> (

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
s mailing, with a full > ssd cluster, having almost same results) > > > > - Mail original - > > De: "Alexandre DERUMIER" > À: "Christian Balzer" > Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 17:16:25 > Objet: Re: [cep

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Christian Balzer
; > À: "Christian Balzer" > Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 17:16:25 > Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing > devices > > >>Actually check your random read output again, you gave it the wrong &

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
"Christian Balzer" Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 17:16:25 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices >>Actually check your random read output again, you gave it the wrong >>parameter, it needs to be randre

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
e DERUMIER" Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 16:39:58 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:09:28 +0200 (CEST) Alexandre DERUMIER wrote: > >>For what it's worth, my cluster gives me

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Christian Balzer
t; > In short, highest density (thus replication of 2 and to make that safe > > based on RAID6) and operational maintainability (it is a remote data > > center, so replacing broken disks is a pain). > > > > That cluster is fast enough for my purposes and that fio test isn't

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
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Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Christian Balzer
ank could comment about the 4000iops by osd ? > > > - Mail original - > > De: "Christian Balzer" > À: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Cc: "Alexandre DERUMIER" > Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 11:51:37 > Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOP

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
h.com Cc: "Alexandre DERUMIER" Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 11:51:37 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices Hello, On Tue, 13 May 2014 11:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Alexandre DERUMIER wrote: > Hi Christian, > > I'm going to test a full

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Christian Balzer
re 32+ cores. Christian > > > > - Mail original - > > De: "Christian Balzer" > À: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 11:03:47 > Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing > devices > >

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
- De: "Christian Balzer" À: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Mardi 13 Mai 2014 11:03:47 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices I'm clearly talking to myself, but whatever. For Greg, I've played with all the pertinent journal

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-13 Thread Christian Balzer
d6, to have more osd ? > > > (how many disks do you have begin the raid6 ?) > > > > > > > > > Aslo, I known that direct ios can be quite slow with ceph, > > > > > > maybe can you try without --direct=1 > > > > > > and also enable rb

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-08 Thread Christian Balzer
il original - > > > > De: "Christian Balzer" > > > À: "Gregory Farnum" >, > > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > > Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 04:49:16 > > Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and > > backing de

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-08 Thread Christian Balzer
Hello, On Thu, 08 May 2014 17:20:59 +0200 Udo Lembke wrote: > Hi, > I think not that's related, but how full is your ceph-cluster? Perhaps > it's has something to do with the fragmentation on the xfs-filesystem > (xfs_db -c frag -r device)? > As I wrote, this cluster will go into production next

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-08 Thread Udo Lembke
Hi again, sorry, too fast - but this can't be an problem due to your 4GB cache... Udo Am 08.05.2014 17:20, schrieb Udo Lembke: > Hi, > I think not that's related, but how full is your ceph-cluster? Perhaps > it's has something to do with the fragmentation on the xfs-filesystem > (xfs_db -c frag -r

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-08 Thread Udo Lembke
Hi, I think not that's related, but how full is your ceph-cluster? Perhaps it's has something to do with the fragmentation on the xfs-filesystem (xfs_db -c frag -r device)? Udo Am 08.05.2014 02:57, schrieb Christian Balzer: > > Hello, > > ceph 0.72 on Debian Jessie, 2 storage nodes with 2 OSDs

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-08 Thread Christian Balzer
get busy (CPU, not IOWAIT), but there still are 1-2 cores idle at that point. > > > - Mail original - > > De: "Christian Balzer" > À: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Cc: "Alexandre DERUMIER" > Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 08:52:15 > Objet: Re

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-08 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
es you have) - Mail original - De: "Christian Balzer" À: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Cc: "Alexandre DERUMIER" Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 08:52:15 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices On Thu, 08 May 2014 08:41:54 +0200

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Christian Balzer
; > > - Mail original - > > De: "Christian Balzer" > À: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 08:26:33 > Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing > devices > > > Hello, > > On Wed, 7

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
Stupid question : Is your areca 4GB cache shared between ssd journal and osd ? or only use by osds ? - Mail original - De: "Christian Balzer" À: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 08:26:33 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal a

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Christian Balzer
ve begin the raid6 ?) > > > > > > Aslo, I known that direct ios can be quite slow with ceph, > > > > maybe can you try without --direct=1 > > > > and also enable rbd_cache > > > > ceph.conf > > [client] > > rbd cache = true > &

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Christian Balzer
> - Mail original - > > De: "Christian Balzer" > À: "Gregory Farnum" , ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 04:49:16 > Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing > devices > > On Wed, 7

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
uot;Christian Balzer" > > À: "Gregory Farnum" >, > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 04:49:16 > Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing > devices > > On Wed, 7 May 2014 18:37:48 -0700 Gregory Farnum

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
original - De: "Christian Balzer" À: "Gregory Farnum" , ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Jeudi 8 Mai 2014 04:49:16 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices On Wed, 7 May 2014 18:37:48 -0700 Gregory Farnum wrote: > On Wed,

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Christian Balzer
On Wed, 7 May 2014 18:37:48 -0700 Gregory Farnum wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Christian Balzer wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > ceph 0.72 on Debian Jessie, 2 storage nodes with 2 OSDs each. The > > journals are on (separate) DC 3700s, the actual OSDs are RAID6 behind > > an Areca 1882 wi

Re: [ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Christian Balzer wrote: > > Hello, > > ceph 0.72 on Debian Jessie, 2 storage nodes with 2 OSDs each. The journals > are on (separate) DC 3700s, the actual OSDs are RAID6 behind an Areca 1882 > with 4GB of cache. > > Running this fio: > > fio --size=400m --ioengine=l

[ceph-users] Slow IOPS on RBD compared to journal and backing devices

2014-05-07 Thread Christian Balzer
Hello, ceph 0.72 on Debian Jessie, 2 storage nodes with 2 OSDs each. The journals are on (separate) DC 3700s, the actual OSDs are RAID6 behind an Areca 1882 with 4GB of cache. Running this fio: fio --size=400m --ioengine=libaio --invalidate=1 --direct=1 --numjobs=1 --rw=randwrite --name=fiojob