Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-04-15 Thread Mark Nelson
On 04/15/2013 03:25 AM, Stas Oskin wrote: Hi, Like I said, it's just my instinct. For a 180TB (raw) cluster you've got some tough choices to make. Some options might include: 1) high density and low cost by just stick a bunch of 3GB drives in 5 2U nodes and make sure you don't

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-04-15 Thread Stas Oskin
Hi, Like I said, it's just my instinct. For a 180TB (raw) cluster you've got > some tough choices to make. Some options might include: > > 1) high density and low cost by just stick a bunch of 3GB drives in 5 2U > nodes and make sure you don't fill the cluster past ~75% (which you > probably don

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-04-14 Thread Stas Oskin
Hi. > I mean the sl4500 can have 2 nodes with 50 drives instead of 1 node with > 60 drives. See this: > > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/**products/quickspecs/14406_div/**14406_div.HTML > > That lets you use cheaper CPUs and also

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-04-14 Thread Mark Nelson
On 04/14/2013 09:25 AM, Stas Oskin wrote: 1) If data availability and redundancy is most important, you would go with multiple 2U boxes to minimize cluster impacts in case of any downtime? My general feeling here is that it depends on the size of the cluster. For small

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-04-14 Thread Mark Nelson
On 04/14/2013 08:38 AM, Stas Oskin wrote: Hi. I mean the sl4500 can have 2 nodes with 50 drives instead of 1 node with 60 drives. See this: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/__products/quickspecs/14406_div/__14406_div.HTML

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-04-14 Thread Stas Oskin
1) If data availability and redundancy is most important, you would go > with multiple 2U boxes to minimize cluster impacts in case of any >> downtime? >> > > My general feeling here is that it depends on the size of the cluster. For > small clusters, 2U or even 1U boxes may be ideal. For very l

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-03-17 Thread Stas Oskin
> For me,We have seem a supermicro machine,which is 2U with 2 CPU and 24 2.5 > inch sata/sas drives,together with 2 onboard 10Gb Nic. I think it's good > enough for both density and computing power. > > This configuration can also hold 12 3.5 drives? What model you use?

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-03-17 Thread Stas Oskin
Hi Mark. > The SL4500 series looks like it should be a good option for large > deployments, though you may want to consider going with the 2-node > configuration with 25 drives each. The drive density is a bit lower but > you'll have a better CPU/drive ratio and can get away with much cheaper >

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-03-17 Thread Chen, Xiaoxi
For me,We have seem a supermicro machine,which is 2U with 2 CPU and 24 2.5 inch sata/sas drives,together with 2 onboard 10Gb Nic. I think it's good enough for both density and computing power. To another end, we are also planning to evaluating small node for ceph,say a ATOM with 2 /4 disks per

Re: [ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-03-17 Thread Mark Nelson
Hi Stas, The SL4500 series looks like it should be a good option for large deployments, though you may want to consider going with the 2-node configuration with 25 drives each. The drive density is a bit lower but you'll have a better CPU/drive ratio and can get away with much cheaper proces

[ceph-users] SL4500 as a storage machine

2013-03-17 Thread Stas Oskin
Hi. First of all, nice to meet you, and thanks for the great software! I've thoroughly read the benchmarks on the SuperMicro hardware with and without SSD combinations, and wondered if there were any tests done on HP file server. According to this article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/15