Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-04 Thread Cedric Lemarchand
Le 04/06/2014 03:23, Christian Balzer a écrit : > On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 18:52:00 +0200 Cedric Lemarchand wrote: >> Le 03/06/2014 12:14, Christian Balzer a écrit : >>> A simple way to make 1) and 2) cheaper is to use AMD CPUs, they will do >>> just fine at half the price with these loads. >>> If you

Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Christian Balzer
Hello, On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 18:52:00 +0200 Cedric Lemarchand wrote: > Hello, > > Le 03/06/2014 12:14, Christian Balzer a écrit : > > A simple way to make 1) and 2) cheaper is to use AMD CPUs, they will do > > just fine at half the price with these loads. > > If you're that tight on budget, 64GB

Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Cedric Lemarchand
Hello, Le 03/06/2014 12:14, Christian Balzer a écrit : > A simple way to make 1) and 2) cheaper is to use AMD CPUs, they will do > just fine at half the price with these loads. > If you're that tight on budget, 64GB RAM will do fine, too. I am interested about this specific thought, could you ela

Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Benjamin Somhegyi
> > This is a very good point that I totally overlooked. I concentrated > > more on the IOPS alignment plus write durability, and forgot to check > > the sequential write bandwidth. The 400GB Intel S3700 is a lot more > > faster but double the price (around $950) compared to the 200GB. > Indeed, th

Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Christian Balzer
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 10:46:36 + Benjamin Somhegyi wrote: > Hello Robert & Christian, > > First, thank you for the general considerations, 3 and 3.extra has been > ruled out. > > > > A simple way to make 1) and 2) cheaper is to use AMD CPUs, they will do > > just fine at half the price with t

Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Robert van Leeuwen
> this is a very good point that I totally overlooked. I concentrated more on > the IOPS alignment plus write durability, > and forgot to check the sequential write bandwidth. Again, this totally depends on the expected load. Running lots of VMs usually tends to end up being random IOPS on your

Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Benjamin Somhegyi
Hello Robert & Christian, First, thank you for the general considerations, 3 and 3.extra has been ruled out. > A simple way to make 1) and 2) cheaper is to use AMD CPUs, they will do > just fine at half the price with these loads. > If you're that tight on budget, 64GB RAM will do fine, too. >

Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Christian Balzer
Hello, you are indeed facing the problem of balancing density (and with that cost, though really dense storage pods get more expensive again) versus performance. I would definitely rule out 3) for the reason you're giving and 3.extra for the reason Robert gives, if one of those nodes crashes yo

Re: [ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Robert van Leeuwen
> We are at the end of the process of designing and purchasing storage to > provide Ceph based backend for VM images, VM boot (ephemeral) disks, > persistent volumes (and possibly object storage) for our future Openstack > cloud. > We considered many options and we chose to prefer commodity sto

[ceph-users] OSD server alternatives to choose

2014-06-03 Thread Benjamin Somhegyi
Hi, We are at the end of the process of designing and purchasing storage to provide Ceph based backend for VM images, VM boot (ephemeral) disks, persistent volumes (and possibly object storage) for our future Openstack cloud. We considered many options and we chose to prefer commodity storage s