it sounds like it would limit the amount of
SSDs used for DB devices.
How can I use all of the SSDs‘ capacity?
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would have) resulted in
extra 8 Ceph OSDs with no db device.
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NZHCHABDF4/
* https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/64548
* Reef backport (NOT merged yet): https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/58458
Maybe your issue is somewhat related?
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by poelzl to add automatic backups:
https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/56772
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Sorry, I replied to the wrong email thread before, so reposting this:
I think it's time to start pointing out the the 3/30/300 logic not really
holds any longer true post Octopus:
https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/ceph-users@ceph.io/message/CKRCB3HUR7UDRLHQGC7XXZPWCWNJSBNT/
Although I suppose i
I think it's time to start pointing out the the 3/30/300 logic not really
holds any longer true post Octopus:
https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/ceph-users@ceph.io/message/CKRCB3HUR7UDRLHQGC7XXZPWCWNJSBNT/
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 00:09, Burkhard Linke <
burkhard.li...@computational.bio.uni-giesse
For EC 8+2 you can get away with 5 hosts by ensuring each host gets 2
shards similar to this:
https://ceph.io/planet/erasure-code-on-small-clusters/
If a host dies/goes down you can still recover all data (although at that
stage your cluster is no longer available for client io).
You shouldn't just
Once you have your additional 5 nodes you can adjust your crushrule to have
failure domain = host and ceph will rebalance the data automatically for
you. This will involve quite a bit of data movement (at least 50% of your
data will need to be migrated) so can take some time. Also the official
reco
Since you mention NextCloud it will probably be RWG deployment. ALso it's
not clear why 3 nodes? Is rack-space a premium?
Just to compare your suggestion:
3x24 (I guess 4U?) x 8TB with Replication = 576 TB raw storage + 192 TB
usable
Let's go 6x12 (2U) x 4TB with EC 3+2 = 288 TB raw storage + 172
e
(https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/ceph-users@ceph.io/thread/GY7VUKCQ5QUMDYSFUJE233FKBRADXRZK/#GY7VUKCQ5QUMDYSFUJE233FKBRADXRZK)
but unfortunately with no discussion / responses then.
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Does anybody have any hints on where to look for what could be broken here?
Thanks a bunch,
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Hey Dominic,
thanks for your quick response!
On 25/06/2021 19:45, dhils...@performair.com wrote:
Christian;
Do the second site's RGW instance(s) have access to the first site's OSDs? Is
the reverse true?
It's been a while since I set up the multi-site sync between our clust
Ceph on a single host makes little to no sense. You're better of running
something like ZFS
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 23:52, Wladimir Mutel wrote:
> I started my experimental 1-host/8-HDDs setup in 2018 with
> Luminous,
> and I read
> https://ceph.io/community/new-luminous-erasure-co
cient then?
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We found the issue causing data not being synced
On 25/06/2021 18:24, Christian Rohmann wrote:
What is apparently not working in the sync of actual data.
Upon startup the radosgw on the second site shows:
2021-06-25T16:15:06.445+ 7fe71eff5700 1 RGW-SYNC:meta: start
2021-06-25T16:15
otes. I suppose with the
EoL of Nautilus more and more clusters will now make the jump to the
Octopus release and convert their OSDs to OMAP in the process. Even if
not all clusters RocksDBs would go over the edge, in any case running a
compaction should not hurt right?
Thanks aga
ecause the cert is only valid vor
old.ceph.com
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* but https://ceph.com/pgcalc/ is not rewritten to the old.ceph.com
domain and thus the certificate error because the cert is only valid
vor old.ceph.com
Regards
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thanks for the answer :)
i still get a 404 on ceph.com/pgcalc
(and no redirect to old.ceph.com
also no cert m
rrent master zone? The intention would be to avoid
involving the clients having to update their endpoint in case of a failover.
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aster?
From what you said I read that I cannot:
a) use an additonal rgw_dns_name, as only one can be configured (right?)
b) simply rewrite the hostname from the frontend-proxy / lb to the
backends as this will invalidate the sigv4 the clients do?
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ers to select one of them?
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This probably provides a reasonable overview -
https://ceph.io/en/news/blog/2020/public-telemetry-dashboards/,
specifically the grafana dashboard is here:
https://telemetry-public.ceph.com
Keep in mind not all clusters have telemetry enabled
The largest recorded cluster seems to be in the 32-64PB
It's been discussed a few times on the list but RocksDB levels essentially
grow by a factor of 10 (max_bytes_for_level_multiplier) by default and you
need (level-1)*10 space for the next level on your drive to avoid spill over
So the sequence (by default) is 256MB -> 2.56GB -> 25.6GB -> 256GB GB a
them. Somebody
else would have to chime in to confirm.
Also keep in mind that even with 60GB partition you will still get
spillover since you seem to have around 120-130GB meta data per OSD so
moving to 160GB partitions would seem to be better.
>
>
>
>
>
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> On 2021. Sep 21., at 9:19, Christian Wuerdig
> wrote:
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> Email received fro
ter with ec 4:2 :((
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> On 2021. Sep 21., at 20:21, Christ
This tracker item should cover it: https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/51948
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 11:03, Nigel Williams
wrote:
>
> Could we see the content of the bug report please, that RH bugzilla entry
> seems to have restricted access.
> "You are not authorized to access bug #1996680."
>
> On
buff/cache is the Linux kernel buffer and page cache which is
unrelated to the ceph bluestore cache. Check the memory consumption of
your individual OSD processes to confirm. Top also says 132GB
available (since buffers and page cache entries will be dropped
automatically if processes need more RAM
Bluestore memory targets have nothing to do with spillover. It's
already been said several times: The spillover warning is simply
telling you that instead of writing data to your supposedly fast
wal/blockdb device it's now hitting your slow device.
You've stated previously that your fast device is
zone has
bucket_index_max_shards=11
Should I align this and use "11" as the default static number of shards
for all new buckets then?
Maybe an even higher (prime) number just to be save?
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On 30/09/2021 17:02, Christian Rohmann wrote:
Looking at my zones I can see that the master zone (converted from
previously single-site setup) has
bucket_index_max_shards=0
while the other, secondary zone has
bucket_index_max_shards=11
Should I align this and use "11" as t
mory buffers.
On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 21:02, Szabo, Istvan (Agoda)
wrote:
>
> Hi Christian,
>
> Yes, I very clearly know what is spillover, read that github leveled document
> in the last couple of days every day multiple time. (Answers for your
> questions are after the c
That is - one thing you could do is to rate limit PUT requests on your
haproxy down to a level that your cluster is stable. At least that
gives you a chance to finish the PG scaling without OSDs dying on you
constantly
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 11:56, Christian Wuerdig
wrote:
>
> Ok, so I
some stale instances on master as
secondary site after migrating from a single site to multisite.
Did you ever find out what to do about those stale instances then?
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r to be growing, but still, I'd
like to clean those up.
I did not explicitly disable dynamic sharding in ceph.conf until
recently - but question is, if this was even necessary since RGW does
recognize when it's running in multisite sync.
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>
> Thank you very much Christian, maybe you have idea how can I take out the
> cluster from this state? Something blocks the recovery and the rebalance,
> something stuck somewhere, thats why can’t increase the pg further.
> I don’t have auto pg s
ared up?
Also just like for the other reporters of this issue, in my case most
buckets are deleted buckets, but not all of them.
I just hope somebody with a little more insight on the mechanisms at
play here
joins this conversation.
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On 04/10/2021 12:22, Christian Rohmann wrote:
So there is no reason those instances are still kept? How and when are
those instances cleared up?
Also just like for the other reporters of this issue, in my case most
buckets are deleted buckets, but not all of them.
I just hope somebody with a
A couple of notes to this:
Ideally you should have at least 2 more failure domains than your base
resilience (K+M for EC or size=N for replicated) - reasoning: Maintenance
needs to be performed so chances are every now and then you take a host
down for a few hours or possibly days to do some upgra
Maybe some info is missing but 7k write IOPs at 4k block size seem fairly
decent (as you also state) - the bandwidth automatically follows from that
so not sure what you're expecting?
I am a bit puzzled though - by my math 7k IOPS at 4k should only be
27MiB/sec - not sure how the 120MiB/sec was ach
as well, suggested that in a
> replicated pool writes and reads are handled by the primary PG, which would
> explain this write bandwidth limit.
>
> /Z
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2021, 22:31 Christian Wuerdig,
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe some info is missing but 7k write IOP
bucket stats --bucket mybucket
Doing a bucket_size / number_of_objects gives you an average object size
per bucket and that certainly is an indication on
buckets with rather small objects.
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On 25.01.23 10:26, Christian Rohmann wrote:
On 20/10/2022 10:12, Christian Rohmann wrote:
1) May I bring up again my remarks about the timing:
On 19/10/2022 11:46, Christian Rohmann wrote:
I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the
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You can structure your crush map so that you get multiple EC chunks per
host in a way that you can still survive a host outage outage even though
you have fewer hosts than k+1
For example if you run an EC=4+2 profile on 3 hosts you can structure your
crushmap so that you have 2 chunks per host. Thi
ut in place?
* Does it make sense to extend RGWs capabilities to deal with those
cases itself?
** adding negative caching
** rate limits on concurrent external authentication requests (or is
there a pool of connections for those requests?)
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[1] https://docs.ceph.com
General complaint about docker is usually that it by default stops all
running containers when the docker daemon gets shutdown. There is the
"live-restore" option (which has been around for a while) but that's turned
off by default (and requires a daemon restart to enable). It only supports
patch u
Happy New Year Ceph-Users!
With the holidays and people likely being away, I take the liberty to
bluntly BUMP this question about protecting RGW from DoS below:
On 22.12.23 10:24, Christian Rohmann wrote:
Hey Ceph-Users,
RGW does have options [1] to rate limit ops or bandwidth per bucket
ystem (Keystone in my case) at full rate.
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I could be wrong however as far as I can see you have 9 chunks which
requires 9 failure domains.
Your failure domain is set to datacenter which you only have 3 of. So that
won't work.
You need to set your failure domain to host and then create a crush rule to
choose a DC and choose 3 hosts within
containers being built somewhere to
use with cephadm.
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wondering if
ceph-exporter ([2] is also built and packaged via the ceph packages [3]
for installations that use them?
Regards
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[1]
https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/mgr/prometheus/#ceph-daemon-performance-counters-metrics
[2] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/tree/main/src/exporter
[3
uot;latest" documentation is at
https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/install/get-packages/#ceph-development-packages.
But it seems nothing has changed. There are dev packages available at
the URLs mentioned there.
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[...]
I am wondering if ceph-exporter ([2] is also built and packaged via
the ceph packages [3] for installations that use them?
[2] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/tree/main/src/exporter
[3] https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/install/get-packages/
I
metry.
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On 23.02.24 16:18, Christian Rohmann wrote:
I just noticed issues with ceph-crash using the Debian /Ubuntu
packages (package: ceph-base):
While the /var/lib/ceph/crash/posted folder is created by the package
install,
it's not properly chowned to ceph:ceph by the postinst s
On 04.03.24 22:24, Daniel Brown wrote:
debian-reef/
Now appears to be:
debian-reef_OLD/
Could this have been some sort of "release script" just messing up the
renaming / symlinking to the most recent stable?
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I did this multiple times and it seems to always be shard 34 that has the
issue
Did someone see something like this before?
Any ideas how to remedy the situation or at least where to or what to look
for?
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you mean by blocking IO? No bucket actions (read / write) or
high IO utilization?
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On 08.03.24 14:25, Christian Rohmann wrote:
What do you mean by blocking IO? No bucket actions (read / write) or
high IO utilization?
According to https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/radosgw/dynamicresharding/
"Writes to the target bucket are blocked (but reads are not) briefly
during resha
"This section applies only to the older Filestore OSD back end. Since
Luminous BlueStore has been default and preferred."
It's totally obsolete with bluestore.
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Hi Casey,
Interesting. Especially since the request it hangs on is a GET request.
I set the option and restarted the RGW I test with.
The POSTs for deleting take a while but there are not longer blocking GET
or POST requests.
Thank you!
Best,
Christian
PS: Sorry for pressing the wrong reply
.
I would love for RGW to support more detailed bucket policies,
especially with external / Keystone authentication.
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up in one my
clusters.
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8.2.4 milestone so it's sure to be
picked up.
Thanks a bunch. If you miss the train, you miss the train - fair enough.
Nice to know there is another one going soon and that bug is going to be
on it !
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versions. But there have been lots of fixes in this area ... e.g.
https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/39657
Is upgrading Ceph to a more recent version an option for you?
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actively make use of SSE-S3, right?
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But you are not syncing the data in your deployment? Maybe that's a
different case then?
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final release and update notes.
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debian-17.2.4/ return 404.
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week.
Thanks for the info.
1) May I bring up again my remarks about the timing:
On 19/10/2022 11:46, Christian Rohmann wrote:
I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the
announcement happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the
technical process of releasing.
But I
.2.11 which we
are waiting for. TBH I was about
to ask if it would not be sensible to do an intermediate release and not
let it grow bigger and
bigger (with even more changes / fixes) going out at once.
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es/57807) about Cloud Sync being
broken since Pacific?
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But there is a fix commited, pending backports to Quincy / Pacific:
https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/57306
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reators to apply such a policy themselves, but to apply this as a
global default in RGW, forcing all buckets to have SSE enabled -
transparently.
If there is no way to achieve this just yet, what are your thoughts
about adding such an option to RGW?
Regards
On 23/11/2022 13:36, Christian Rohmann wrote:
I am wondering if there are other options to ensure data is encrypted
at rest and also only replicated as encrypted data ...
I should have referenced thread
https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/ceph-users@ceph.io/thread
xes in them.
Thanks a bunch!
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May I kindly ask for an update on how things are progressing? Mostly I
am interested on the (persisting) implications for testing new point
releases (e.g. 16.2.11) with more and more bugfixes in them.
I guess I just have not looked on the right
total failure of an OSD ?
Would be nice to fix this though to not "block" the warning status with
something that's not actually a warning.
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Hey everyone,
On 20/10/2022 10:12, Christian Rohmann wrote:
1) May I bring up again my remarks about the timing:
On 19/10/2022 11:46, Christian Rohmann wrote:
I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the
announcement happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the
Can anyone please point me at a doc that explains the most efficient procedure
to rename a ceph node WITHOUT causing a massive misplaced objects churn?
When my node came up with a new name, it properly joined the cluster and owned
the OSDs, but the original node with no devices remained. I expe
name and starting it with the new name.
> You only must keep the ID from the node in the crushmap!
>
> Regards
> Manuel
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 22:22:35 +
> "Rice, Christian" wrote:
>
>> Can anyone please point me at a doc that explains the most
&
I have a large number of misplaced objects, and I have all osd settings to “1”
already:
sudo ceph tell osd.\* injectargs '--osd_max_backfills=1
--osd_recovery_max_active=1 --osd_recovery_op_priority=1'
How can I slow it down even more? The cluster is too large, it’s impacting
other network t
ciative of the community response. I learned a lot
in the process, had an outage-inducing scenario rectified very quickly, and got
back to work. Thanks so much! Happy to answer any followup questions and
return the favor when I can.
From: Rice, Christian
Date: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:57 P
ow users to create their own roles and policies to
use them by default?
All the examples talk about the requirement for admin caps and
individual setting of '--caps="user-policy=*'.
If there was a default role + policy (question #1) that could be applied
to externally authenti
With failure domain host your max usable cluster capacity is essentially
constrained by the total capacity of the smallest host which is 8TB if I
read the output correctly. You need to balance your hosts better by
swapping drives.
On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 03:34, Nicola Mori wrote:
> Dear Ceph user
enlighten me.
Thank you and with kind regards
Christian
On 02/02/2022 20:10, Christian Rohmann wrote:
Hey ceph-users,
I am debugging a mgr pg_autoscaler WARN which states a
target_size_bytes on a pool would overcommit the available storage.
There is only one pool with value for
Hm, this thread is confusing
in the context of S3 client-side encryption means - the user is responsible
to encrypt the data with their own keys before submitting it. As far as I'm
aware, client-side encryption doesn't require any specific server support -
it's a function of the client SDK used whi
I guess that would be a good
comparison for what timing to expect when running an update on the metadata.
I’ll also be in touch with colleagues from Heinlein and 42on but I’m open to
other suggestions.
Hugs,
Christian
[1] We currently have 215TiB data in 230M objects. Using the “official
still 2.4 hours …
Cheers,
Christian
> On 9. Jun 2023, at 11:16, Christian Theune wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> we are running a cluster that has been alive for a long time and we tread
> carefully regarding updates. We are still a bit lagging and our cluster (that
> started around
few very large buckets (200T+) that will take a
while to copy. We can pre-sync them of course, so the downtime will only be
during the second copy.
Christian
> On 13. Jun 2023, at 14:52, Christian Theune wrote:
>
> Following up to myself and for posterity:
>
> I’m going to t
ately seems not even supposed by the BEAST library which RGW uses.
I opened feature requests ...
** https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/59422
** https://github.com/chriskohlhoff/asio/issues/1091
** https://github.com/boostorg/beast/issues/2484
but there is no outcome yet.
Rega
, not the public IP
of the client.
So the actual remote address is NOT used in my case.
Did I miss any config setting anywhere?
Regards and thanks for your help
Christian
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id i get something wrong?
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Nino
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 5:44 PM Christian Theune wrote:
> Hi,
>
> further note to self and for posterity … ;)
>
> This turned out to be a no-go as well, because you can’t silently switch the
&g
zonegroups referring to the same pools and this
should only run through proper abstractions … o_O
Cheers,
Christian
> On 14. Jun 2023, at 17:42, Christian Theune wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> further note to self and for posterity … ;)
>
> This turned out to be a no-go as well, becau
://download.coeh.com/debian-quincy/ bullseye main
to
deb https://download.coeh.com/debian-quincy/ boowkworm main
in the near future!?
Regards,
Christian
OpenPGP_0xC20C05037880471C.asc
Description: OpenPGP public key
OpenPGP_signature
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
with the decision on
the compression algo?
Regards
Christian
[1]
https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/rados/configuration/bluestore-config-ref/#confval-bluestore_compression_algorithm
[2] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/33790
[3] https://github.com
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