S 10 was first shipped, I
have to rely on my memory). So, I would say, Ubuntu wasn't copying Apple,
they are just a clone of Debian. And Debian is older system than MacOS 10.
I'm not a historian, so someone probably will correct me, if I'm wrong here.
Just my $0.02
Valeri
uld be considered
compromised like keys, certs...) and rebuild of box are mandatory.
In any case, I agree that whoever let password hashes get exposed... is
doomed.
Valeri
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n't, or anything)
makes me think that what I was trained about security is not accepted by
many these days. Or maybe I simply got tired following it instead of
spending more time doing my own sysadmin's job ??
Good luck, everyone. Stay safe and keep your boxes secure!
Valeri
+++
On Thu, February 5, 2015 12:49 am, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2015-02-04, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> I'm neutral to sudo (even though I was taught "the smaller number of
>> SUID/SGID files you have, the better). Yet, I'm considering it less safe
>> to
. Je suis Charlie.
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On Thu, February 5, 2015 10:08 am, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 09:41 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> >> > wac4140SoeTer'#621strAAt0918;@@
>> >
>> > Gee thanks. I'll use it for root on every server ;-)
>
>>
On Thu, February 5, 2015 12:45 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Thu, February 5, 2015 10:08 am, Always Learning wrote:
>
>>>> I know, I know, everybody is reasonable, it is just I didn't have my
>>>> coffee yet...
>>>
>
omised as well. If there is no way to
establish the day, then since that system originally build. With full
blown sweeping up the consequences. Finding really-really-really
convincing proof it is not a result of compromise (and yes, fight one's
wishful thinking!).
But again, it's your money
On Thu, February 5, 2015 5:07 pm, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Valeri Galtsev
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, /etc/shadow would have always been readable only by root by
>>> default. The interesting question here is whether an intrude
On Thu, February 5, 2015 5:23 pm, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 16:39 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> >>>
>> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1220 Jan 31 03:04 shadow
>
>> Be it me, I would consider box compromised. All done on
tp://www.delphibasics.co.uk/RTL.asp?Name=SizeOf
Anyway, one more lesson: avoid using poorly written software (even if
these are only indications of it being written poorly that you can
observe).
Valeri
++
s: not long ago they stopped
releasing new binary drivers (compatible with new kernels/glibc) for some
old cards I have my department. The machines, though old, still serve as
generic workstations... This did it: nvidia now in my bad hardware
manufacturers list
Valeri
Valeri Galtsev
Sr Syste
ration Handbook (4th Edition) 2010 by Evi
Nemeth and Garth Snyder
- don't worry about "outdated...", remember, you first need fundamentals.
It is not as "fundamental" as some of the books of the past I remember,
but I'd rather mention it that those really old books.
eally
very Unix (or Linux) person - understanding in-depth how the system works?
Other experts (I know there are many on this list)?
Thanks.
Valeri
Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kav
On Mon, February 9, 2015 1:51 pm, Peter Lawler wrote:
> On 10/02/15 04:31, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> UNIX and Linux System Administration Handbook (4th Edition) 2010 by Evi
>> Nemeth and Garth Snyder
>
> Yeah buy this book. Skimping is not acceptable.
>
+1
Yes, good p
re many
experts on the list - larger number than my poor brain can hold ;-)
Valeri
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Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Insti
and would begin with a really good book. Unless you are already an
expert in a sense you know fundamentals (but this question is the one that
one can only answer by himself).
Valeri
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Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmolo
. That really suggests the need to learn fundamentals (I would
put in order: Unix or Linux system basics first; system security second).
Valeri
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Department of Astronomy and Astro
r knew the first character on
> the first line could be a space.
>
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>
> Paul.
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On Tue, February 10, 2015 7:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 19:19 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
>> Just to make it clear: I recommended the book itself without pointing to
>> any source of it, and when pirate copy was mentioned by somebody else,
rd -c
/usr/local/opt/flexlm/licenses/license.dat -l /var/log/flexlm/idl.log >
/dev/null 2>&1'
Valeri
Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli I
On Thu, February 12, 2015 12:45 pm, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Thu, February 12, 2015 12:32 pm, Matt wrote:
>> I need to remove empty files out of a directory that are over 6 hours
>> old so I created this script and put it in cron.hourly.
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>&g
es. Each of the above is
like big chapter on system security each said in one short phrase.
And most importantly, read good fundamental Unix/Linux system book, and
revisit your system configurations (from security point of view) while
reading.
Just my $0.02
Valeri
oogle mail accepts everything.
Then, (after they parsed and filed information in that message I would
speculate) they send non-delivery notification. That was a real incident
after which I have a policy on my servers: I do not forward e-mail of
users who left department to their google mail. As I do
productive for the folks bringing through conversations then so be it,
> we will start putting individual accounts on moderation.
>
(answering off the list to diminish buzz)
More than agree.
Valeri
Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astr
On Fri, February 13, 2015 11:52 am, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Valeri Galtsev
> wrote:
>>
>>> Otherwise it accept junk that your primary rejects
>>
>> Not exactly. If greylisting on primary is set, but on backup MX is not,
>>
On Fri, February 13, 2015 12:18 pm, Ken Smith wrote:
> Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Valeri Galtsev
>> wrote:
>>>>Otherwise it accept junk that your primary rejects
>>> Not exactly. If greylisting on primary is set, but on backup
On Fri, February 13, 2015 12:41 pm, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Valeri Galtsev
> wrote:
>>
>> I stated pure observation on at least two pairs of primary - backup MX I
>> maintain. Still I made backup MXes with greylisting as well (they are
&
On Fri, February 13, 2015 12:52 pm, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Valeri Galtsev
> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> In this case the secondary MX has the same RBL's etc etc as the
>>> primary.
>>> I do see the spammers sending
hat I thought it said to do. I'm I misreading the
> FM or is something weird going on here?
>
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system itself to fulfill its RAID function;
what if kernel panics before software RAID does its job? Hardware RAID
(for huge filesystems I can not afford to back up) is what only makes
sense for me. RAID controller has dedicated processors and dedicated
simple system which does one simple task:
On Sat, February 28, 2015 4:22 pm, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Valeri Galtsev
> wrote:
>> Indeed. That is why: no LVMs in my server room. Even no software RAID.
>> Software RAID relies on the system itself to fulfill its RAID function;
>> what
On Sun, March 1, 2015 9:44 am, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32 bit
On Sun, March 1, 2015 10:22 am, Richard wrote:
>
>
> Original Message
>> Date: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:44:08 -0500
>> From: Mark LaPierre
>> To: centos@centos.org, Mark LaPierre
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)
>&g
CAhbUBlPye7sX6uy96ButBsk/rAaolzNh1PdH
> Htsbqx50fPZbzNfyZ2BB
> =LGml
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+
On Sun, March 1, 2015 11:08 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 10:58:30AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> Why "slash": /.thunderbird in case of your example? Because if you do
>> not
>> specify absolute path beginning with / the ssh daemon prep
On Sun, March 1, 2015 8:02 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 03/01/15 10:44, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>> On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I
dig up my old
emails, and will send you what people (whom I know in person) say about
the companies they used successfully.
Valeri
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Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrop
route above you will unlikely have your
box bricked after installing nvidia driver. Then in step 3 you will
discover doing which of your customizations breaks things. I call it for
myself lazy person easy path approach ;-)
Just my $0.02.
Valeri
Val
t;> Is
>> there a yum repo with this driver anywhere? Thanks much,
>>
>> Jim
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S
. I
would also think of other reasons why your instance of mysql (or mariadb)
could not be able to use _your_ key and cert, see, e.g.:
http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?11,400856,401127
(your case may be different, I would just try think wider, but maybe
debugger will give you the direct lead).
Valeri
yone ;-)
That said, I just have to mention it once again. It is really advisable to
always change root password that came from kickstart file before even new
system goes live.
Valeri
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Sr System Administrator
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MD was the
first one who got me annoyed, even though I like them more than Intel)
Somebody, continue the list.
Does everybody think that CentOS with this change joins a good company (as
I said I don't care much, I'll survive ;-)
Valeri
+++
er
IMHO alternatives, MS Windows to name one (the only OS of many I know
whose vendor tells you it is unsafe to use it without 3rd party software -
antivirus).
You should guess all I say is ran, so I decided to drop resemblig tag at
the beginning ;-)
suis Charlie.
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SXl/l9wFbqAOIKR+VYHIix9UPqxUkU/6fio1D/RhD+8gulY9Tj4Bx5vjpVkJm4wY
> +Dj0VZ6LyhhkkOTypvENrY2imyxJ+MQ/xKiBQCcvGJIkNcxKr3Xd9D6cFkkkZWR7
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On Thu, April 2, 2015 4:27 pm, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Thu, April 2, 2015 4:11 pm, J Martin Rushton wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Sorry to mention the "opposition" here, but I have a family member's
>> lapt
l, but I'm sure there is no harm in that.
Valeri
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Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
I can't hold myself from mentioning:
The whole antivirus idea is fundamentally flawed. It is based on the
attempt to "enumerate bad". You can not enumerate bad. You can enumerate
good, and prohibit everything else.
Valeri
Valeri Galtsev
Sr System
vel the picture of what evolution you can expect from regular
sysadmin. In other words, once you have become extremely popular
distribution (to the level you even provide paid jobs), if you started
making changes to what you are as a distribution, changes of a kind that
some commercial comp
taining the mirrors as long as the mirror machine (hosting multitude
of other mirrors) exists, which will be while I have a sysadmin position
at this university. We have benefited from CentOS for quite some time, and
maintaining public mirror "forever" is that little that we can do for the
up (or aside) a lot
since. Still...
Just MHO.
Valeri
++++++++
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Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
Universit
provide feedback, which is courtesy actually as we gain nothing
(but slaps: "you like to whine!"). Don't get me wrong, significant split
of my systems are and stay CentOS ;-)
Valeri
Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Departmen
d big
consequences. Reboot would resolve trouble, so it is unlikely your case.
But if this hits specific place in RAM, it can cause corruption of
filesystem as well...]
Good luck! Let us know what you find out.
Valeri
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Sr Sy
nd it must run CentOS
6.x.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --
>>>> Stephen Clark
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like
SAMBA Windows share. Scanning the rest of your Linux of Unix machines does
not make much sense for me.
Just my $0.02.
Valeri
Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of As
On Thu, April 16, 2015 8:59 pm, Peter Lawler wrote:
> [OT ALERT]
>
> On 17/04/15 02:28, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> clamav is a scanner that is designed to detect viruses (virii I should
>> use
>> for plural as it is Latin word)
> I believe this 'rule' i
On Fri, April 17, 2015 12:50 am, Peter Lawler wrote:
> On 17/04/15 12:31, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> But being not native
>> English speaker, I use it ("not native English speaker")
> Figured as much, which is why I mentioned it ;)
>
>> as an excuse for
>>
On Fri, April 17, 2015 9:51 am, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2015-04-17 at 08:00 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> It is amazing how much one can cripple what another person said by
>> scissoring his phrases ;-)
>
> English people (excludes USA people)
The fi
h as time from last fsck for
ext[2,3,4].
As it was already mentioned: XFS is marvellous. I use it forever for huge
filesystems on Linux boxes. I remember howto by Russel Ingram was titled
"Linux + XFS HOWTO. Linux on Steroids"...
Valeri
Valeri Gal
tead that Network Manager is being used.
>
> systemd-networkd is becoming increasingly capable and popular though so
> NetworkManager might not actually stay around for too long.
>
Saying the same differently: syste
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ying that they're PDF document,
> version 1.4
>
> I believe this is a t-bird issue (another one, since they broke it six
> months or so ago).
>
I'm sure you are right. To the best of my knowledge neither of browsers,
and neither of mail applications on Linux or Unix
listinfo/centos
>
++++++++++++
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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
/bin/zsh
Well, no creepy surprises for me ! ;-)
(you can do the same on Linux of your choice and see if it behaves ;-)
Thanks.
Valeri
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Sr System Administrator
Depart
hers in case of "poodle"). I am not saying
anything about Nessus which I never used.
Having a good system, fully updated ( unnecessary services turned of, etc.
all done according to securing system checklist) would be the best thing
to have. Those security tools... I wish none of good sysa
binary driver for these my obsoleted by NVIDIA cards. So, NVIDIA locked me
on these boxes to older kernel.
So, how would you like this company after that!?
Valeri
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Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
On Wed, May 6, 2015 10:20 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a couple of boxes with NVIDIA cards and fancy screen setup. I
>> have
>> to use NVIDIA proprietary driver, open source driver does not support
>> con
thinking 3-4 IMHO). I run bacula which has close
to a hundred of clients; all is stored in files on RAID units, no tapes.
Once you configure it it is nice. But to make a configuration work for the
first time is really challenging (says one who still managed to configure
it ;-)
Good luck!
V
tes rsync.
>
> Oh, let me add that we use rsync with hard links, which saves a *lot* of
> space, and time.
>
This sounds like Apple borrowed your idea for their time machine (I bet
you are doing it for much-much linger than Apple time machine exists)!
Valeri
++
not* less than 3?
>
>
That's a good one, Mark! You made my day. Didn't you know that Windows
programmers the only ones who count 1,2,3,4,5,... [all normal programmers
count 0,1,2,3,4,5,... AFAIK]. I wonder how at all they got "0" in their
levels ;-)
Valeri
>
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a setup/configuration option for your application to put
>> the log files and related in a more standard location (/var/log,
>> /var/run), where it is less likely to run into an issue.
>>
>> This isn't really a C7-specific issue/"problem".
>>
>>
[your appdynamics rpm name].rpm
After that done, you may need to describe the paths to binaries, libraries
there, say, by adding for libraries:
echo "/opt/appdynamics" >> /etc/ld.so.conf
/sbin/ldconfig -v
and adding extra paths to, say, /etc/profile...
I hope, this helps.
and edit config files ...
- as opposed to "./install")
Any pointers anybody?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Valeri
++++++++
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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
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with this would be very much appreciated.
>> >
>> First question - did it ever work? If not, is selinux enforcing?
>>
>>mark "getenforce"
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heir case you can maintain system either
way: as prebuilt packages, or as building ports yourself, the last gives
you ability to change configuration options of what you build to your
specific needs).
Not intending to criticize what you are doing, just giving you an idea
what it looks like for external observ
quot;. It blocked download of
pdfforge.org's PDF Creator for me (the last I use for ages). This was last
drop for me in my over 4 years long search for replacement for Firefox.
So, I'm switching away from it. Leaving alone google chrome (which I have
my reservations about which I don&
> restarting pbs_server, it appears to be working again.
>>
>> Should I be filing a bug report?
>>
>>mark
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On Wed, May 27, 2015 10:46 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Wed, May 27, 2015 9:46 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>>> On 05/27/2015 09:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Johnny. I
t available
firmware. (there are really old cards, even though someone may say
hardware doesn't live this long, I do have them in production as well, and
to the credit of 3ware I must say: I've never seen one dead - excluding
abuse/misuse of course).
Just my $0.02
Valeri
+++++
On Thu, May 28, 2015 11:12 am, Kirk Bocek wrote:
>
>
> On 5/28/2015 9:03 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 10:46 am, Kirk Bocek wrote:
>>> On 5/26/2015 11:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>>> Push came to shove - these things gag on a drive &g
tes RAID stripes. I've never heard this
embedded system ever got panicked (which is result of its simplicity
mainly).
So, even though I'm strongly in favor of hardware RAID, I still consider
one's choice just a matter of taste. And I would be much happier if
software RAID people wil
On Thu, May 28, 2015 4:25 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 05/28/2015 11:13 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> I do not want to start "software" vs "hardware" RAID wars here
>
> I'm not saying that hardware RAID is bad, entirely. Software RAID does
>
tain:
http://bay.uchicago.edu/epel/
Thanks.
Valeri
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University of Chicago
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of "I Am not a lawyer, but..." discussion in the
> comments, but I think this is the best answer from Red Hat as to why
> they don't ship ZFS.
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ons which are few (do not and never will run servers under CentOS
7). And I have sixth field (fs_passno) 2 for /usr in /etc/fstab. Didn't
have problems with these boxes so far. Though fs_passno should probably be
changed to 1 (as for /) according to description of new layout (i.e. _all_
a promptfor sarah's password is always
> issued.
>
> Can someone help solve this CentOS 7 mystery?
> Thank you and best regards.
>
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eed to go through rather steep
learning curve just to learn how to find necessary tools. Which in case of
Windows appears to be mere re-shuffling of the same old tools. Of course,
RHEL/CenOS are different...
Just not sure: should I add "rant" tags, or sent it as is ;-(
Valeri
+
r every time Windows crashes...
> ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it!
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t; No Jonathan.
> I mean websites whitelisted and not exposed in the
> whitelist tab.
Let me guess: google, mozilla, ...
Please, tell me how wrong I am (who are actually whitelisted would be
really good to know).
Valeri
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isclose yourself (often even not realizing that).
I hope, this helps someone.
Valeri
>
> I'm fairly certain that io9.com isn't reading /etc/shadow on my
> computer.
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ly
> exceeding $100m, I don't use snooping and recording 'safe browsing' from
> Google either.
>
As I already said, guys, do check tor project website:
https://www.torproject.org/
Valeri
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On Fri, June 12, 2015 3:20 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 6/12/2015 1:03 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> But the bottom line is the same: in both cases you are executing
>> somebody's else code on your computer.
>
>
> your computer is *ALWAYS* executing someone elses c
On Fri, June 12, 2015 3:54 pm, jd1008 wrote:
>
>
> On 06/12/2015 02:32 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Fri, June 12, 2015 3:20 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
>>> On 6/12/2015 1:03 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>> But the bottom line is the same: in both cases you are
On Fri, June 12, 2015 4:16 pm, jd1008 wrote:
>
>
> On 06/12/2015 03:05 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Fri, June 12, 2015 3:54 pm, jd1008 wrote:
>>>
>>> On 06/12/2015 02:32 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>> On Fri, June 12, 2015 3:20 pm, John R Pie
> standard operating procedures in the (in)Security business.
>
Precisely!
Valeri
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On Sun, June 14, 2015 8:03 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Sat, June 13, 2015 17:56, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>>
>> As I said about these services here (KGB, CIA, MI-6, ...) there
>> is no "ex" for their agents. The only way one retired from these
>
ogwatch report?
>>
>>
>
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