I'm experimenting with 6.2 now. Things seem to be really great so far!
Distribution closure is one of my favourite pets. So I tried to install
everything.
I found only one problem, but that's another (minor) thing.
But I found almost nothing under /usr/lib.
So, Biarch is really dead?
Funny! A
> nope. its actually quite a major pain to manage..
>
> you forgot to mention what you installed, how you did it and what you
> expected V/s achieved
I have installed all the packages from the two x86_64 DVDs with
(eventually):
yum install --exclude=ovirt\* \*
I'm not using any internet
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Biarch is actually only needed for libraries and support packages.
> Running native i386 application on x86_64 does not make much sense
> (third-party apps are another thing).
I also like the option to compile, run, test, debug, etc. my own
programs as 32 bit. That's
Les Mikesell wrote:
> Why not use a virtual machine for that and have a cleaner separation
> of the architectures?
Biarch runs natively and therfore faster, it can use
hardware-accelerated OpenGL, it is easier to setup and use, and it is
fully supported by TUV. To me the separation of arcitectu
Reindl Harald wrote:
> compilers and devel-packages should usually be seperated from
> working-computers and the compiled software packed as RPM
> in a dedicated vritual machine
I'm using CentOS not only as a mail/web/etc. server, but also on my
development workstation, on a compute server and o
Reindl Harald wrote:
> compiling is not the problem
Indeed. And thanks to biarch, this works ootb.
> there is ONE virtual machine neough for all users
Biarch reduces this even to one less: none. It's obvioulsy the simpler
solution.
> however i can not imagine a usecase for 32bit software thes
Johnny Hughes wrote:
> There is a variable in yum.conf called multilib_policy ...
>
> The default in CentOS 5 is all ... the default in CentOS 6 is best.
Ah, ok. Part of my playing around with 6.2 ist finding all the
differences with respect to 5.x. ;)
> I can tell you that I would personally u
Maybe we're talking about different things here. I'm definitely not
talking about how to build a distribution. That's why I'm using your's
on not running my own.
I'm talking about the usefulness of biarch. Not in the sense of building
packages for redistribution, especially not as RPMs. It's ju
Reindl Harald wrote:
> you need not to build a distribution to build clean packages
> in a clean build-envirnonment - this is simply in your own
> interest over the long and any quick& dirty solution
> will eat your time later
Please tell me in detail what ends up quick and dirty, when doing wha
(Sorry to be a little talkative today, but I will easily refute everything.)
Les Mikesell wrote:
> If you are moving binaries to any other machine, you are likely to
> have odd failures if you don't carefully control the libraries in the
> build environment.
The linker doesn't and cannot link 64
Reindl Harald wrote:
> it IS DIRTY because it does NOT remove obsoleted files
> and yes i have seen environemnets where as example mysql did not
> compile any longer as long all pieces of the old version were not
> deleted manually
Hardly ever do I type 'make install'. I stick to
Base/Updates/Ep
Reindl Harald wrote:
> on a clean environment $HOME does not contain software
> this is the apple-way having binaries running where your user
> have write-access and from the viewpoints of security and
> modern system-managment worst practice
The three Federal Computing Centers in Germany (Jueli
Les Mikesell wrote:
> You _can_ cross-compile code for a whole bunch of different
> environments. That doesn't make it a particularly good idea, even if
> it does happen to be fairly easy in this one particular case. How
> many cases do you want to support?
Exactly this one. The only relevant c
John R Pierce wrote:
> who says he's building system packages?I got the impression he's
> building his own applications, stuff that typically runs in $HOME rather
> than /usr or whatever.
Exactly. Wasn't that clear from the very beginning?
-Michael
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After going from CentOS 5.7 to 6.2, a lot of things turned out to be
much better, but there are also quite some regressions. The most obvious
one is power consumption on my notebook. It was notably lower before.
The ASPM issue introduced in 2.6.38 was widely reported and discussed,
and the 6.2
Patrick Lists wrote:
> Iirc to enable ASPM on Fedora the kernel must be booted with
> pcie_aspm=force. Maybe you need to use that option too? For more info
> see:
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_aspm_solution&num=1
That's no general solution. It may work, but (e.g.) it
Rob Kampen wrote:
> So for those of us that do not understand the intricacies of ASPM / BIOS
> / ACPI, how do we ensure we are getting the best (least) power consumption?
Hey! I was asking for people who can help me backport the upstream fix!
> I have a new ASUS G73S with i7 8 core processor - r
Michael Lampe wrote:
>> Iirc to enable ASPM on Fedora the kernel must be booted with
>> pcie_aspm=force. Maybe you need to use that option too? For more info
>> see:
>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_aspm_solution&num=1
>
> That
Michael Lampe wrote:
> In other words: my BIOS is broken. But it's broken for all Lenovo
> Notebooks. So ...
It seems mine is particularly broken: The BIOS isn't even lying, it
realy disables ASPM!
That at least is my conclusion after looking at this
https://wiki.edu
I'm building my own openmpi packages derived from upstream SRPMs.
Problem: The ones built with Intel's compiler can only be installed by
force, because Intel doesn't register their provided libs with rpm.
Any idea how this can be done?
(Alternative ideas are appreciated as well -- as long as th
Frank Cox wrote:
> A dependency is supposed to be something that's required for a program to
> work.
> Removing the dependency from the rpm won't magically make a program work if it
> really does require the functionality provided by that dependency.
It's there.
Just not registered with rpm. --
Frank Cox wrote:
> Edit the dependency list to suit.
Maybe I was too dumb to properly explain it:
The Intel stuff is there implicitly. And it _is_ needed. Both for
building and then running.
But it's not registered with rpm by Intel!
So I _can_ build, but the resulting RPM cannot be installed
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> I totally lost you.
No problem. Play the game of chess like your namesake did so well. :)
> Please provide specifics, what package, is it in rpm
> or not, details please, so we do not chase out own tails.
Gimme a trick: How to unregister an implicit but formally una
Frank Cox wrote:
>> Gimme a trick: How to unregister an implicit but formally unavailable
>> runtime dependency in a spec file?
>
> I've given you the solution twice. Here is a more detailed description of the
> exact lines that you need to edit in the spec file:
>
> http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1
Antonio da Silva Martins Junior wrote:
> Have you tried to make a fake src.rpm package that "provides" this
> 'libfoo' and
> install it ? It didn't need to install anything just tell to the rpm library
> that it
> "provides" 'libfoo'.
Normally, I leave the building straightforward.
Of cour
John Stanley wrote:
> AutoProvReq: no
Seemed like a good hint, but doesn't do the trick on 5.7. The RPMs still
require the Intel libs.
Hmmm ...
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Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> Have you tried to make a fake src.rpm package that "provides" this
>>> 'libfoo' and
>>> install it ? It didn't need to install anything just tell to the rpm
>>> library that it
>>> "provides" 'libfoo'.
>>
>> Normally, I leave the building straightforward.
>>
>> Of co
Marc Deop wrote:
> On Sunday 26 February 2012 20:39:03 Michael Lampe wrote:
>> So I can build, but the resulting RPM cannot be installed -- if not
>> forced. (No problems then as everything is there.)
>
> Why don't you add the files needed as dependencies to the spec
Tommy Zong wrote:
> My centos is 4.8 while I need gtk 2.8 or later. How to upgrade GTK?
You can't without breaking everything. But you can install an
alternative version alongside and make sure that only the programs that
need it are using it (that means you _can't_ just install to /usr/local).
> ... I understand now ...
No, you don't.
> is it required to upgrade to each point release in order to continue
> receiving security updates?
It's strictly linear and one-dimensional.
Point releases only mark a specific point in time, where you get a
little bit more, e.g. additional drivers,
Dave Johansen wrote:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1086971
I have been able to reproduce the above issue on my home network and at
work, but RedHat is claiming it is not a bug, so can some people on this
list give it a try and see if they can reproduce it?
If you connect with '-v
Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
>> This point has already been answered on this mailing list (and
>> elsewhere). A bit of search in the archives and elsewhere would
>> quickly bring you this:
>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Skype
>
> I'm very familiar with that document. :-) And many users, including
>
Fred Smith wrote:
> Apparently I'm the only Centos user who is unable to view the quicktime
> trailers,... or maybe nobody but me is interested.
Assuming you have the necessary codecs installed, it still doesn't work,
because Apple checks your "QuickTime"-Version with some piece of
Javascript.
This package has a build requirement 'gecko-devel' which is fulfilled by
'xulrunner-devel'. But in the process of building the browser plugins
two tools named 'xpidl' and 'xpt_link' are necessary. They werde once
part of 'gecko-devel' but are now replaced by other tools. I haven't
found any pac
Camron W. Fox wrote:
> After upgrading from 6.4 to 6.5, our serial console configuration non
> longer work. We have the following upstart file: ...
According to the comments in /etc/init/serial.conf you shouldn't have a
/etc/init/ttyS0.conf or do anything to /etc/securetty. This is all
handled
Eliezer wrote:
> What would be a clean buildroot for?
Well, only God himself did the initial creative work just once -- after
that, He let things go, because it was already to complicated even for
Him -- or perfect. Anyway, because He had not planned doing it again and
reiterate, we now have
Christo Larsen wrote:
> Running Centos 6.4
6.5 is current, nobody cares for 6.4 anymore.
> Any Idea´s?
Put it into a Windows machine to switch it once. Then send it something
like
AT^U2DIAG=0
over the serial line to switch it permanently.
-Michael
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Latest really rude show stoppers were/are:
el6:
- librsvg2: your private fork bomb for gnome
- kernel: scheduler completely broken on numa systems
- qt: kde unusable when going up from -26 to -28
el5:
- firefox hangs on quit after latest ESR update
- (totem plugins no longer work too)
What I a
Gnome's control-center now requires NetworkManager-wifi. But it's only a
soft requirement, no shared libs involved.
To keep your workstation NM-free, you want to install a dummy package
that provides NetworkManager-wifi but actually contains nothing, ideally
before updating to 7.5. Here's a sc
wrote:
>>> erm... that is going to mean that everytime there is an update for
>>> either QT or anything that it links into or anything that is in a lib
>>> associated down that chain - the entire stack needs to be rebuilt. Are
>>> you sure this is a good idea ?
>>
>> I'm not sure, but the guy who
Namely:
* hivex
* hivex-devel
* librdmac
* librdmac-devel
* sanlock-libs
* sanlock-devel
and maybe others.
Is this on purpose (I don't know if upstream has removed or updated the
32-bit rpms, but the old ones are still in C6.3/x86_64), or is it just
the usual sloppyness (I've been told here on
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