in the
above policy draft, was not followed, I will personally break out a can of
whoop-ass, and work to fix things.
Remember too, collaboration is a two-way street.
How does a user identify packages that have come from this repository in
order to fix or control any incompatibilities?
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Rex Dieter wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
How does a user identify packages that have come from this repository in
order to fix or control any incompatibilities?
rpm -qi
Look for "Vendor" and/or "Packager" tag.
Is there some reason to expect a vendor/packager to always (a
y-on-write semantics
to permit any instance to be modified transparently. If it had some
concept of large/small block sizes and had a good hit ratio on the large
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accidental and if you want to replace someone else's file you'd have to
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ngs differently. In fact, I'd love to see an
optional repository that could be used from Centos whose policy was
basically that packages had been released in fedora for at least a month
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This is getting way off topic, please consider what you post.
Having only one true repository whose name shall not be uttered in the
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rent OS.
Yes, that would make Linux as difficult to maintain as a Mac.
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...or why Linux can't include zfs because it can't be restricted enough
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exclude conflicting groups when updating or to permit them to co-exist
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Coming from a fedora client, you have had to specify -Y for a while for
most things to work. But I don't think the man page makes it very clear
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Then it would become a choice of which to install and things wouldn't
break when somewhere else updates first. Then you could focus on making
your versions better instead of compatible - and the politics wouldn't
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they might help to diagnose the problem.
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be allowed/encouraged to exist and we need a way to
deal with them reasonably.
But on a more personal note you should take it as a tribute to to the
base distro packaging that you've just rolled out a massive update and
the chatter on the list is mostly rants about unrelated trivia.
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openssh packages. I still don't have much of a clue what trusted vs.
untrusted forwarding actually means, though.
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oes the impossible task of making the world code-compatible go
away, but then we can easily take advantage of different/better packages
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What's a 'trusted' forwarding mean as opposed to any other kind?
<<
A trusted X11 client will bypass the security controls specified in the X11
Security Extension Specification (see
http://refspecs.freestandard
Axel Thimm wrote:
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But it would be even better if we could live with the assumption that repos
will have incompatibilities, whether accidental or intentional. Then it
would become a choice of which to install and things wouldn&#
ings in a single repository are
incompatible with each other for certain periods of time so expecting
perfection is obviously impossible. A technical means to control what
you load won't stop you from doing something wrong but it would permit
you do it right and ke
<->usb adapter cables like:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2791077&CatId=77
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accumulate a table of mac<->ip assocations, but only after
communicating with something. arp -a will show the current entries
(which expire fairly quickly). You might ping everything in the network
range, then look for the mac in the arp list.
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stable interfaces and cooperate with
vendors that provide working drivers. And in spite of the spin this
article applies to the deficiency in Linux you may end up needing one of
those other operating systems for some things.
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n use the
mt command to check/set the block size for the tape, and both dump and
tar have block size options that you can set to match.
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Dear All,
Sorry for disturbing, anyone have recommendation for a good open
source library system.
hope to do it for my church.
I've seen these mentioned, but haven't used them:
http://obiblio.sourceforge.net/
http://www.koha.org/
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ou do your base Centos install and 'yum update', do:
yum --enablerepo=centosplus update kernel
yum --enablerepo=centosplus install reiserfs-utils
Then reboot, and you should be able to mount the raid and add it to
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tage of working well even
on slow connections and the ability to reconnect to running sessions -
and some other things.
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md0 really exists and includes the right underlying devices, but yes,
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trol this. It's
an obvious problem when you fdisk/format on the one that sees the
additional cylinder, then move or copy this disk to one that doesn't.
Does anyone know what controls this or if it is just a hardware or
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maybe even with a different setup. These appear to be the same with
individual drives set up as separate volumes in all cases.
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whenever a new one is noticed.
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I think he meant
Yes, if you are in X, you need ctl-alt-fkey to switch VCs. If you
aren't already in X you can do it with alt-fkey. Regardless, you have
to be a little farther along in the install before it works.
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can't access them easily - especially after the network breaks. Shouldn't:
alias eth0 bnx2
alias eth1 bnx2
alias eth2 e1000
alias eth3 e1000
in /etc/modprobe.conf always make the intel cards eth2 and 3?
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I have a number of machines that have 4 NICs, two of which are
actually in use, running Centos 5. When they are rebooted, they seem
to change the eth interface names, assigning them in different
orders. I'm a little fuzzy on the details because they are
the best way to export the Centos
partition so that the Mac can access it?
If you are building a new file server box from scratch, you might want
to look at SME server from http://www.contribs.org. It is Centos-based
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copies of the shell running anyway so you get shared-text
efficiency. If you just want to keep restarting the same program,
something like this should run forever.
while :
do
my_program
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ess and include it in the ifcfg-ethX files to nail things down.
But, I see something about adding udev rules for persistent names so
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Ideas welcome.
If the application is old it might not have been compiled with large
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ion for no reason (at least nothing in any server logs). Below is the session info on the client machine.
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e you are setting boot order
but there is another place where you pick which of several hard drives
should be primary. But rather than fight with that part, I usually
install grub and /boot on whichever drive the box prefers to boot and /
can be somewhere else - even a drive not se
the GUI part.
When capturing, you'll probably want to do capture/options and add a
capture filter like 'not host your_desktop' to ignore the traffic that
the window is sending.
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won't be where you want them for responsiveness when they are traversing
the whole disk for comparisons.
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ystem have more RAM or swap
available? Also, if your backup is rsync based, it needs to put the
entire directory listing for the transfer into memory before it starts
with a certain amount needed per file. Perhaps you can break the runs
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keep your existing kernel for a while, just change the
grub default back after the update installs the new one. Then you can
switch, reboot, and rebuild the necessary stuff whenever you have a chance.
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new disks?
Is this possible?
Will I have to reboot to get the swapped external disk detected.
This depends on the controller - some don't provide hotplug support.
There is some info here http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html.
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(that
is they stay on the side of caution already). Perhaps you are used to
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doing what you said. (Type "which cp" to see what is happening).
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. If one were to type literally:
"cp" -fr somedir somefile ~/
Would this defeat the alias (in bash)?
Any quoting style:
\cp
"cp"
'cp'
should keep the alias from expanding, as does specifying the full path:
/bin/cp. But with quoting you sometimes have to be aware of
ered why a program like sshd didn't rate-limit
connection attempts from day one. It's not exactly a new concept,
especially for a security-oriented program.
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Craig White wrote:
We will work also with the Red Hat Security team and see if we can
isolate any issues that might be FIXABLE.
doesn't this almost beg for upstream to make denyhosts a base
applied. That might go a long way towards
helping non-wizard folks to enjoy some measure of additional protection
by default. Just a thought.
Or, package the more sensible configuration (according to your expert
judgement...) in centosplus for easy addition later.
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, when the installer knows how to deal with images
directly and if you want a package later you'll probably let yum get a
current version from the repositories anyway?
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pe-oriented, but can also archive to disk. Backuppc is
best at archiving to disk (with some clever tricks to reduce the space
needed) but can also write to tape.
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talled via cfengine so I can ensure all of the versions are
the same on all systems.
I've never had any particular problem with this, but I usually start
with disk image copies of an initial setup, followed by subsequent yum
updates. I haven't had any surprises from the Centos repositories.
would insist that you run vmware-config.pl but it would always
say that the existing module loads perfectly, where under CentOS5 it
always compiles a new version for each updated kernel.
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0.0.0.0 NE.TW.RKB.1 0.0.0.0 UG20 00 eth0
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so there is a certain amount of per-file overhead. It should
help if you could break the run up, perhaps doing a few directories
separately, then make another pass that excludes those directories.
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to keep running though a disk failure you need to
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http://www.opennms.org - and they have a yum repo for easy installation
on Centos. Expect to do some work setting up relationships, but the
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lse than 8e, using fdisk.
FD is the 'raid autodetect' type. Setting the drive you don't want to
be the master to something else during boot, then later adding it with
"mdadm --add ..." should work. Or if it is a hot-swappable type, boot
without it, plug it in,
ey may all be available from the rpmforge repo.
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(i.e. not use a mirrorlist or at least
always pick the same server as the first choice from the same location)
instead of having ad-hoc per-distribution per-version solutions that
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Does anyone have a handy example or howto pointer for the matching
config changes needed to make sendmail/procmail deliver in maildir
format in home directories and for dovecot to access it there?
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it and don't know how well
it meshes with concurrent deliveries already being done in the new format.
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y impossible to keep up with the remote transfer, you can
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rmit the appropriate port in ( 5900 + screen
number). If you are expecting to access the desktop running on the
console you need a different approach. KDE and Gnome have 'screen
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want to control the console session remotely, try
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s this likely to
be leftover cruft from the hardware issues or are there problems in
ext3/raid1/sata drivers? The way backuppc stores data with millions of
hardlinks in the archive it isn't really practical to copy it off,
reformat, and start over.
ve and remove it for offsite copies, but if
there are filesystem errors that fsck won't fix, they are going to be
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e hit.
escapeshallarg() and addslashes() combined with a few backticks provides easy
access to the power of the shell, and excellent "don't need to worry about
it" security.
Errr what??? Php has about the worst security history of any program
around.
This just blows m
arse
text programatically and have it become commands - and a side effect is
that metacharacters that appear in the text get processed even if they
aren't what you expected. I think it is kind of silly that common shell
metacharacters are permitted in filenames, but there's not m
Benjamin Smith wrote:
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WHY THE @!#! NOT?!?!?
The shell is 'supposed' to be run by a user that is allowed to run any
command he wants, and permission/trust issues are handled by the
login/authentication process that happens before you
ere is a simple description it must be buried
in the middle of some obscure manual.
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Garrick Staples wrote:
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Does anyone have a quick reference to the order of operations as the
shell parses a command line (variable parsing,i/o redirection, wildcard
and variable expansion, splitting on IFS, quote removal, command
Stephen Harris wrote:
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Benjamin Smith wrote:
Unless I'm terribly mistaken (again?), the only way I've been able to
see "loop thru a list of files" work reliably is with "find" using
the "-print0&q
Garrick Staples wrote:
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Garrick Staples wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 04:33:30PM -0600, Les Mikesell alleged:
Does anyone have a quick reference to the order of operations as the
shell parses a command line (variable parsing,i/o
VMware you can copy your disk images over to a Windows or Mac host
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be it would only have taken a couple hundred lines if you took
advantage of order of operations on each line... But my rule of thumb
is that if I expect something to fill more than a page, I'd start in
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on the host other than installing
the vmware package and configuring it. People running xen tend to say
that you shouldn't run anything else directly on the host, but this
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If sed had been invented first, we wouldn't need grep.
ifconfig |sed -n -e 's/eth0.*\(..:..:..:..:..:..\)/\1/p'
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error of "Subroutine install redefined at
/var/www/html/twiki/WebDAVPlugin_installer.pl" (same thing for any
xxx_installer.pl). I didn't see this on the 4.1.2 version of twiki.
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checking for inflate in -lz... yes
checking for CRYPTO_new_ex_data in -lcrypto... no
configure: error: library 'crypto' is required for OpenSSL
H
Do you have the openssl-devel package?
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m beginning to understand that CentOS
looks at this more like Windows - the "base load" is in fact just a
runtime with NOTHING development-related in it)
Yes - that's why there is that selection for "Development" during the
install. If you don't pick it, you d
e holes fixed. And in the unlikely event that you need
something no one else has built, set up your own yum repository between
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