Hi,
Here's an interesting read which makes a point for CentOS Stream:
https://freedomben.medium.com/centos-is-not-dead-please-stop-saying-it-is-at-least-until-you-read-this-4b26b5c44877
tl;dr: Communication about Stream was BAD, but Stream itself might be a good
thing. Here's why.
Cheers,
Niki
On 14.12.2020 13:07, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Hi,
Here's an interesting read which makes a point for CentOS Stream:
https://freedomben.medium.com/centos-is-not-dead-please-stop-saying-it-is-at-least-until-you-read-this-4b26b5c44877
tl;dr: Communication about Stream was BAD, but Stream itself migh
Il 2020-12-14 13:07 Nicolas Kovacs ha scritto:
Hi,
Here's an interesting read which makes a point for CentOS Stream:
https://freedomben.medium.com/centos-is-not-dead-please-stop-saying-it-is-at-least-until-you-read-this-4b26b5c44877
tl;dr: Communication about Stream was BAD, but Stream itself
Hi,
I'm deploying a CentOS8 (not stream 😁) cluster and I have a question
about MTU on the interfaces. I have a connectX6 Mellanox interface where
I need IBoIP setup.
I've setup this interface via nmcli and set the MTU to 65520 with:
nmcli connection modify ib0 mtu 65520
nmcli connection u
Nicolas Kovacs
>
> Here's an interesting read which makes a point for CentOS Stream:
>
> https://freedomben.medium.com/centos-is-not-dead-please-stop-saying-it-is-at-least-until-you-read-this-4b26b5c44877
>
> tl;dr: Communication about Stream was BAD, but Stream itself might be a good
> thing. H
Le 14/12/2020 à 15:25, James Pearson a écrit :
> As others have said, it misses the _really_ important bit about the
> traditional CentOS model which is to follow the RHEL ~10 year life cycle
I totally agree with you.
But when you disagree with someone (e.g. the CentOS team), it's good at least
t
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:15:52 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 11/12/2020 à 02:25, Gordon Messmer a écrit :
> > Personally, I think that changing focus on CentOS Stream is going
> > to make CentOS (and maybe even RHEL) better in the same way and for
> > the same reasons that Fedora is a better dis
On 14.12.2020 21:41, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 14/12/2020 à 15:25, James Pearson a écrit :
>> As others have said, it misses the _really_ important bit about the
>> traditional CentOS model which is to follow the RHEL ~10 year life cycle
>
> I totally agree with you.
>
> But when you disagree wi
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 08:00:24AM -0700, James Szinger wrote:
> >
> > Using Fedora on production servers is like climbing without a rope.
> >
> > It's possible. I've even seen some folks do it.
>
> Since the release of CentOS 8, I have been moving my stuff over to
> Fedora. The combination of
On 12/14/20 4:09 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
> On 14.12.2020 21:41, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
>> Le 14/12/2020 à 15:25, James Pearson a écrit :
>>> As others have said, it misses the _really_ important bit about the
>>> traditional CentOS model which is to follow the RHEL ~10 year life cy
On 14.12.2020 22:39, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> On 12/14/20 4:09 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
>> On 14.12.2020 21:41, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
>>> Le 14/12/2020 à 15:25, James Pearson a écrit :
As others have said, it misses the _really_ important bit about the
traditional Cen
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:37 AM Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 08:00:24AM -0700, James Szinger wrote:
> > >
> > > Using Fedora on production servers is like climbing without a rope.
> > >
> > > It's possible. I've even seen some folks do it.
> >
> > Since the release of CentOS 8,
"Nicolas Kovacs" wrote:
>
> https://freedomben.medium.com/centos-is-not-dead-please-stop-saying-it-is-at-least-until-you-read-this-4b26b5c44877
The article states that CentOS will now be "upstream" of RHEL instead
of "downstream".
This is strange to me. I never thought CentOS was upstream or
Hi,
> "Nicolas Kovacs" wrote:
>
>>
>> https://freedomben.medium.com/centos-is-not-dead-please-stop-saying-it-is-at-least-until-you-read-this-4b26b5c44877
>
> The article states that CentOS will now be "upstream" of RHEL instead
> of "downstream".
>
> This is strange to me. I never thought CentO
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 8:25 AM James Pearson
wrote:
> I agree that Redhat really screwed up this announcement - they would have
> got a lot more kudos if they had announced CentOS Stream to exist along
> with keeping the current traditional CentOS ...
>
Oh, but they did do that. Last year, when
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:41 AM Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
>
> Le 14/12/2020 à 15:25, James Pearson a écrit :
> > As others have said, it misses the _really_ important bit about the
> > traditional CentOS model which is to follow the RHEL ~10 year life cycle
>
> I totally agree with you.
>
> But when y
On 12/12/20 10:34 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
My only concern ATM is whether RH can change its CentOS 7 maintenance
plans as well, all of a sudden.
This is what bothers me, too, but in a slightly different way. Even for
the GPL software, Red Hat actually doesn't have to provide p
> Lots of chat stuff...
Something interesting happens when there's change. People get involved in a
different way, and it can actually be positive.
Centos for me is an example of something that many people took for granted
(including myself). Now there's change and the start of things like Rocky,
I'd like to run this by you guys and get your opinion.
For those of us who are considering moving to Oracle Linux (or at least doing
some experimenting with it), I just had an idea for dealing with the fact that
the oracle-el-epel apparently doesn't have all of the packages that are in the
fedo
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 13:41, Frank Cox wrote:
> I'd like to run this by you guys and get your opinion.
>
> For those of us who are considering moving to Oracle Linux (or at least
> doing some experimenting with it), I just had an idea for dealing with the
> fact that the oracle-el-epel apparentl
what happens when you 'ping -M do -s 65000 -c 4 ?
Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov
В понеделник, 14 декември 2020 г., 15:46:50 Гринуич+2, Patrick Bégou
написа:
Hi,
I'm deploying a CentOS8 (not stream 😁) cluster and I have a question
about MTU on the interfaces. I have a connectX6 Mell
Le 14/12/2020 à 19:41, Frank Cox a écrit :
> For those of us who are considering moving to Oracle Linux (or at least
> doing some experimenting with it), I just had an idea for dealing with the
> fact that the oracle-el-epel apparently doesn't have all of the packages
> that are in the fedora-el-ep
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 14:27, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 14/12/2020 à 19:41, Frank Cox a écrit :
> > For those of us who are considering moving to Oracle Linux (or at least
> > doing some experimenting with it), I just had an idea for dealing with
> the
> > fact that the oracle-el-epel apparently
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:57:53 -0500
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Having done this for years.. choose one or the other. Do NOT mix the two.
...
> In the case of nearly 1:1 repos, you
> will end up with it working 95%-99% of the time and then burning down the
> house.
That's pretty much what I was
The whole issue of "support longevity" raises an issue I've been pondering, is
10-year support a good thing from a security perspective? At work we use
Ubuntu LTS which has only a five year support cycle (you can pay for an extra
five years) but, even with that, issues have arisen. Although th
On 12/14/20 3:47 PM, Leroy Tennison wrote:
> The whole issue of "support longevity" raises an issue I've been pondering,
> is 10-year support a good thing from a security perspective? At work we use
> Ubuntu LTS which has only a five year support cycle (you can pay for an extra
> five years) b
hi all.
Just in case, as the third author linked, read the Licence Agreement,
everything will be there.
And a small remark:
Even if you can take a knife in a shopping mall and stab with it anyone
within the same shopping mall, does not say that it is legal. But you can,
Please do not try it in an
if it is currently changed over the night...
How can you be sure that the CentOS8 stream will not be dropped tomorrow?
How about CentOS9, CentOS10, CentOS Core?!
How can you be sure that what was "promised" will not be canceled in one
second?
I think most of the derivatives will be dead with one or
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 4:48 PM Ruslanas Gžibovskis
wrote:
> I think most of the derivatives will be dead with one or two releases, like
> was with Debian, such as Devuan, never got a new version...
>
Devuan 3.0 was released in June.
https://www.devuan.org/os/announce/beowulf-stable-announce-060
Le 14/12/2020 à 23:18, Ruslanas Gžibovskis a écrit :
> Just in case, as the third author linked, read the Licence Agreement,
> everything will be there.
Since Red Hat source code is mostly GPL, the same thing applies to Oracle Linux.
>
> And a small remark:
> Even if you can take a knife in a sh
I am centos guy last 20 years but not anymore. I have started looking into
Ubuntu.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 14, 2020, at 5:48 PM, Ruslanas Gžibovskis wrote:
>
> if it is currently changed over the night...
> How can you be sure that the CentOS8 stream will not be dropped tomorrow?
> How
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 22:48, Ruslanas Gžibovskis wrote:
> your suggestions?
>
>
Different:
Debian, OpenSuse, Ubuntu-server. All good choices.
Not quite so different:
Rocky, (Maybe one of the corporate sponsored centos-a-likes, (OEL,
Cloudlinux etc) but we've now learned it would be nicer to rel
On 15/12/2020 12:47 π.μ., Ruslanas Gžibovskis wrote:
your suggestions?
My course of action is to wait for Lenix (Ref.:
https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux)
and Rocky Linux (https://rockylinux.org/) by CentOS original founder.
IMHO, b
It is not that we haven't been here before, this is just history
repeating itself.
IBM, SCO, Sun, Novell, etc. majorly have screwed up because of some
geniuses having a great business idea.
(that's how BSD disappeared, Solaris was a disaster, Xenix never made
it.. and whatever happened to S
Hi Strahil
I get:
ping: local error: Message too long, mtu=2044
ping: local error: Message too long, mtu=2044
so ip report is correct and nmcli did not the job ?
Patrick
Le 14/12/2020 à 20:23, Strahil Nikolov via CentOS a écrit :
> what happens when you 'ping -M do -s 65000 -c 4 ?
>
> Best Re
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