Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 19/06/20 17:15, Johnny Hughes ha scritto: On 6/17/20 12:11 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi Johnny, thank you for your and all centos team works. Many of us know how much work is needed for building new releases and maintaining C6 and C7, plus CentOS Stream and modules (Appstream). This is

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread Peter
On 20/06/20 3:29 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: How is this going to be fixed .. Welcome to CentOS Stream Stream will be , once it is fully implemented, the ACTUAL development of RHEL the 'next point release' on git.centos.org in the open. So basically stream is a testing ground for RHEL. It's not

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread Peter
On 20/06/20 3:50 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: Your dates are significantly off Wikipedia has a delay listed in a table: It is, for CentOS-7, For example: 7.0 27 7.1 26 7.2 25 7.3 39 7.4 43 7.5 31 7.6 34 7.7 42 7.8 28 For 6 .. since 6.2, it has bee3n between 10 and 18 days. For 8: 8.0

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread Peter Ajamian
On 20/06/20 10:50 pm, Peter wrote: On 20/06/20 3:50 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: 8.0  140 8.1  71 8.2  48 So the delays for 8 are significantly longer than they ever were for 7. I should also say that the time lag for each point release of 8 seems to be dropping exponentially. Hopefully this m

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread Tom Bishop
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 5:41 AM Peter wrote: > On 20/06/20 3:29 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > How is this going to be fixed .. Welcome to CentOS Stream > > > > Stream will be , once it is fully implemented, the ACTUAL development of > > RHEL the 'next point release' on git.centos.org in the open. >

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread Jon Pruente
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 5:41 AM Peter wrote: > > This is all well and good, but I don't think that CentOS was ever meant > to be a testing ground for RHEL. As the name actually stands for it is > a "Community Enterprise OS" and it has always been a rebuild of the RHEL > sources. Stream is basic

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread John Pierce
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 4:08 AM Tom Bishop wrote: > +1 Streams is not for a production workload, if I wanted that I can easily > deploy an Arch instance if I want or need a rolling distro (it's not Redhat > etc but still). If Redhat wanted CentOS to be released near the same time > line they coul

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread Peter
On 21/06/20 9:15 am, John Pierce wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 4:08 AM Tom Bishop wrote: +1 Streams is not for a production workload, if I wanted that I can easily deploy an Arch instance if I want or need a rolling distro (it's not Redhat etc but still). If Redhat wanted CentOS to be release

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread John Pierce
but the build process should be the same, no?I can't believe RH would use a completely different build process for the release than for the beta/development stuff. On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 5:36 PM Peter wrote: > On 21/06/20 9:15 am, John Pierce wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 4:08 AM Tom

Re: [CentOS] Blog article about the state of CentOS

2020-06-20 Thread Peter
On 21/06/20 1:23 pm, John Pierce wrote: but the build process should be the same, no?I can't believe RH would use a completely different build process for the release than for the beta/development stuff. The packages still have to be built as a whole, they need to go through QA testing, is