[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 132, Issue 1

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[CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Daniel Ruiz Molina
Hi, After installing CentOS 7 in a server with 2 NICs, system detects eth0 and eth1 in reserve order. I would like to have eth1 as eth0 and eth0 as eth1. I have forced HWADDR attribute in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-etc{0,1}, but after rebooting, order is the same... How can I solv

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Ricardo J. Barberis
El Lunes 01/02/2016, Daniel Ruiz Molina escribió: > Hi, > > After installing CentOS 7 in a server with 2 NICs, system detects eth0 > and eth1 in reserve order. I would like to have eth1 as eth0 and eth0 as > eth1. I have forced HWADDR attribute in > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-etc{0,1}, bu

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Ricardo J. Barberis wrote: > El Lunes 01/02/2016, Daniel Ruiz Molina escribió: >> Hi, >> >> After installing CentOS 7 in a server with 2 NICs, system detects eth0 >> and eth1 in reserve order. I would like to have eth1 as eth0 and eth0 as >> eth1. I have forced HWAD

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Leroy Tennison
The issue here may be systemd (I've seen/agree with the venting, this is another example). If you're getting non-eth names there's a program called biosdevname which may be deciding how to name NICs for you. If that's the case then then the -net.rules may be ineffective unless the following is

[CentOS] CentOS 7 and network printers: FYI

2016-02-01 Thread m . roth
I got an email from a user that I'd just handed a new CentOS 7 workstation to, wondering where all the printers were. It took some investigation to find /etc/cups/cups-browsed.conf, and see, in it, at the very bottom of the file: # NOTE: This file is not part of CUPS. You need to start & enable c

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and network printers: FYI

2016-02-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Mon, February 1, 2016 9:17 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > I got an email from a user that I'd just handed a new CentOS 7 workstation > to, wondering where all the printers were. > > It took some investigation to find /etc/cups/cups-browsed.conf, and see, > in it, at the very bottom of the file:

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Ricardo J. Barberis
El Lunes 01/02/2016, Leroy Tennison escribió: > The issue here may be systemd (I've seen/agree with the venting, this is > another example). So far, this is my only big grip with systemd: It apparently never worked, though IME it only stopped working with recent versions of udev. > If you're get

[CentOS] LUSTRE Install Guide

2016-02-01 Thread Ben Archuleta
Hi All, I am in the process of trying to install Lustre on CentOS 7 and I was wondering if anyone could point me to any good documentation. I found https://wiki.hpdd.intel.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=8126821 but this really doesn’t help. I am trying to install version 2.7.1. Regards, Ben

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/01/2016 07:00 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote: The issue here may be systemd ... Web documentation at freedesktop.org says net.ifnames needs to be set to zero, I found just the opposite but if it doesn't work for you try both before giving up. Just to clarify: net.ifnames=0 disables the syst

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Leroy Tennison
> Just to clarify: net.ifnames=0 disables the systemd/udev interface renaming > feature. Well, I tried that and it didn't change the behavior, using 1 as a value did. Don't know if there's been tampering between freedesktop and Ubuntu 14.04LTS but that was my experience. > Also, if you add r

[CentOS] Latest version of kate editor

2016-02-01 Thread H
I have installed the kate editor on Centos 6.7 but it seems to be a very old version, 3.3.4, installed as part of kdesdk. On Centos 7 I can simply run 'yum install kate' but, alas, not on Centos 6. What is the recommended way of updating kate on Centos 6? Thank you. ___

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and network printers: FYI

2016-02-01 Thread m . roth
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Mon, February 1, 2016 9:17 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> I got an email from a user that I'd just handed a new CentOS 7 >> workstation to, wondering where all the printers were. >> >> It took some investigation to find /etc/cups/cups-browsed.conf, and see, >> in it, at

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and network printers: FYI

2016-02-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Mon, February 1, 2016 1:00 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> On Mon, February 1, 2016 9:17 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> I got an email from a user that I'd just handed a new CentOS 7 >>> workstation to, wondering where all the printers were. >>> >>> It took some inves

[CentOS] Re: Latest version of kate editor

2016-02-01 Thread Yamaban
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 19:22, H wrote: I have installed the kate editor on Centos 6.7 but it seems to be a very old version, 3.3.4, installed as part of kdesdk. On Centos 7 I can simply run 'yum install kate' but, alas, not on Centos 6. What is the recommended way of updating kate on Centos 6?

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread m . roth
Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 02/01/2016 07:00 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote: >> The issue here may be systemd > ... >> Web documentation at freedesktop.org says net.ifnames needs to be set to zero, I found just the opposite but if it doesn't work for you try both before giving up. > > Just to clarify: net

[CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread m . roth
Excerpt: Running rm -rf / on any UEFI Linux distribution can potentially perma-brick your system. As a public service announcement, recursively removing all of your files from / is no longer recommended. On UEFI distributions by default where EFI variables are accessible via /sys, this can now mea

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, m.r...@5-cent.us said: > Gordon Messmer wrote: > > Also, if you add rules to /etc/udev/rules.d, you should rebuild your > initrd. > > ?!?!?!?! THAT I had never considered, nor done, and I'm sure that in > CentOS 6, I've changed things there, and just rebooted. That's only neces

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, m.r...@5-cent.us said: > Excerpt: > Running rm -rf / on any UEFI Linux distribution can potentially > perma-brick your system. Did someone think running "rm -rf /" is a good idea? > Ok, *now* tell me why we shouldn't hate systemd? This has zero to do with systemd. This is a b

Re: [CentOS] NICs order

2016-02-01 Thread Digimer
On 01/02/16 09:16 AM, Daniel Ruiz Molina wrote: > Hi, > > After installing CentOS 7 in a server with 2 NICs, system detects eth0 > and eth1 in reserve order. I would like to have eth1 as eth0 and eth0 as > eth1. I have forced HWADDR attribute in > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-etc{0,1}, but

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Mon, February 1, 2016 1:33 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Excerpt: > Running rm -rf / on any UEFI Linux distribution can potentially > perma-brick your system. Yes, I kind of like "rm -rf /". If my memory doesn't fail me, long ago it was one of the tricky questions in sysadmin exam (not that an

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 13:44:48 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: > Did someone think running "rm -rf /" is a good idea? Quote from one of the people who commented on that article: QUOTE: You have this in a script: rm -rf "${DIRECTORY}"/ Now, you have a bug in the script and ${DIRECTORY} is not initialized

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/01/2016 11:54 AM, Frank Cox wrote: You have this in a script: rm -rf "${DIRECTORY}"/ Now, you have a bug in the script and ${DIRECTORY} is not initialized. On GNU systems, rm should not remove '/' recursively unless --no-preserve-root is specified. __

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Richard Zimmerman
>> Excerpt: >> Running rm -rf / on any UEFI Linux distribution can potentially perma-brick >> your system. > > "And they closed the ticket"? That tuxedo on the cockroach is so elegent! > Ok, *now* tell me why we shouldn't hate systemd? > mark As much as I don't like systemd, it has NOTHING

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Mon, February 1, 2016 1:56 pm, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Mon, February 1, 2016 1:33 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Excerpt: >> Running rm -rf / on any UEFI Linux distribution can potentially >> perma-brick your system. > > Yes, I kind of like "rm -rf /". If my memory doesn't fail me, long ag

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread John R Pierce
wait. would deleting the inode /sys/(whatever) actually modify UEFI memory?sure, writing to those inodes could do all sorts of harm, but deleting the inodes in the /sys filesystem, I'm not so sure this isn't a tempest in a teapot so to speak. -- john r pierce, recycling bits in sant

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: > wait. would deleting the inode /sys/(whatever) actually modify UEFI > memory?sure, writing to those inodes could do all sorts of harm, but > deleting the inodes in the /sys filesystem, I'm not so sure this isn't a > tempest in a teapot so to speak. It's going to get /

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 2/1/2016 2:07 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: John R Pierce wrote: >wait. would deleting the inode/sys/(whatever) actually modify UEFI >memory?sure, writing to those inodes could do all sorts of harm, but >deleting the inodes in the /sys filesystem, I'm not so sure this isn't a >tempest in

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: > On 2/1/2016 2:07 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> John R Pierce wrote: >>> >wait. would deleting the inode/sys/(whatever) actually modify UEFI >>> >memory?sure, writing to those inodes could do all sorts of harm, >>> but deleting the inodes in the /sys filesystem, I'm no

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/01/2016 02:07 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: It's going to get /boot. And under there, it'll get /boot/EFI. Yes, but that's not the problem. /sys/firmware/efi/efivars is. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/l

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/01/2016 01:48 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: I just discovered that I couldn't even re-cite alphabet correctly today: it is /bin that you loose, but /etc alphabetically goes after /dev, so will not even loose your /etc, I'm pretty sure none of that is correct. Once "rm" launches, all of the

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/01/2016 01:59 PM, John R Pierce wrote: would deleting the inode /sys/(whatever) actually modify UEFI memory? Yes. That is how the UEFI management interface works. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listin

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Mon, February 1, 2016 4:24 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 02/01/2016 01:59 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >> would deleting the inode /sys/(whatever) actually modify UEFI memory? > > Yes. That is how the UEFI management interface works. Will doing rm -rf / actually delete anything in /sys? IMHO,

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/01/2016 02:46 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Will doing rm -rf / actually delete anything in /sys? IMHO, not. Yes, it will. Probably. It's possible that it'll hang on some of the files in /proc if it gets to that directory before /sys, but that's largely a matter of chance. The abov

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Mon, February 1, 2016 4:23 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 02/01/2016 01:48 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> I just discovered that I couldn't even re-cite alphabet correctly today: >> it is /bin that you loose, but /etc alphabetically goes after /dev, so >> will not even loose your /etc, > > I'm pr

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Alice Wonder
On 02/01/2016 11:54 AM, Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 13:44:48 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: Did someone think running "rm -rf /" is a good idea? Quote from one of the people who commented on that article: QUOTE: You have this in a script: rm -rf "${DIRECTORY}"/ Now, you have a bug in the

Re: [CentOS] More Folding At Home

2016-02-01 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 01/31/16 22:10, Fred Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 09:42:43PM -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote: >> On 12/30/15 23:03, Mark LaPierre wrote: >>> Hey Y'all, >>> >>> I have the Stanford University Folding At Home project running on three >>> of my machines. I had them all set up so that I could

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Valeri Galtsev said: > All true, except for: to actually write stuff permanently to hard drive > (that is modify whatever the content of hard drive is) the system needs to > access /dev/sda1 (I call from now /dev/sda1 device which "/" filesystem > lives on), and once /dev/sda1 is

Re: [CentOS] Latest version of kate editor

2016-02-01 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/01/16 14:20, Yamaban wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 19:22, H wrote: > >> I have installed the kate editor on Centos 6.7 but it seems to be a >> very old version, 3.3.4, installed as part of kdesdk. On Centos 7 I >> can simply run 'yum install kate' but, alas, not on Centos 6. >> >> What is the

Re: [CentOS] More Folding At Home

2016-02-01 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 06:23:26PM -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote: > On 01/31/16 22:10, Fred Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 09:42:43PM -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote: > >> On 12/30/15 23:03, Mark LaPierre wrote: > >>> Hey Y'all, > >>> > >>> I have the Stanford University Folding At Home project r

Re: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System

2016-02-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us > Sent: den 1 februari 2016 20:34 > To: CentOS > Subject: [CentOS] In A UEFI World, "rm -rf /" Can Brick Your System > > As a public service announcement, recursively r