Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-11 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2015-01-10 at 13:03 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > On 1/10/2015 12:56 PM, F. Mendez wrote: > > We need that same with IPv6 since we have a /48 and we need to have > > all IPv6s available for usage. > > Do you realize that a ipv6 /48 is a septillion IP addresses? thats > 1,208,925,819

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 01:16 AM, Jason S. Evans wrote: On 2015-01-10 23:31, Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/10/2015 07:39 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight "Desktop" install of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than installing Thunderbird

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 01:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 01/10/15 20:39, Robert Nichols wrote: Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight "Desktop" install of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than installing Thunderb

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 01/11/2015 01:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: >> Are you referring to this thread by any chance? >> >> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-December/148445.html >> >> The upstream bugzilla referenced in there is now private but I >> pr

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 10:08 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/11/2015 01:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: Are you referring to this thread by any chance? http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-December/148445.html The upstream bugzilla referenced in

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Sven Kieske
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.01.2015 03:42, James B. Byrne wrote: > What does systemd buy the enterprise that sysinit did not provide? > Well (re)starting services in a reliable way? Ensuring that services are up and running? About which sysinit are you talking btw? The in

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 11:22 am, Sven Kieske wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11.01.2015 03:42, James B. Byrne wrote: >> What does systemd buy the enterprise that sysinit did not provide? >> > Well (re)starting services in a reliable way? > Ensuring that services a

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 10:08 am, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Robert Nichols > wrote: >> On 01/11/2015 01:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > >>> Are you referring to this thread by any chance? >>> >>> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-December/148445.html >>> >>> The

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Sven Kieske
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.01.2015 19:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > That sounds like you have collected and counted "votes" pro and > against systemd. How could it sound like I collected "votes"? I don't care about votes when it comes to technical superiority. > As far as "

Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-11 Thread Mike McCarthy, W1NR
The normal usage for a /48 block is to divide it into /64 sub-networks and use DHCP to issue addresses to each subnet from the corresponding /64 segment. I would recommend taking the IPv6 certification course from Hurricane Electric at https://ipv6.he.net/certification/ as a start. Mike

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/11/2015 01:04 PM, Sven Kieske wrote: > On 11.01.2015 19:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> That sounds like you have collected and counted "votes" pro and >> against systemd. > How could it sound like I collected "votes"? I don't care about votes > when it comes to technical superiority. > >> As f

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Always Learning
On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev > I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the > design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old init systems. Design goals ? Compatibility with and/or minimum disruption to existing s

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old init systems. Design goals ? Compatibility

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 2:05 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote: >> On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev >> >> >>> I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the >>> design goals of systemd

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 03:09 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 2:05 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > You guys can't just ignore the advantages of systemd and even ignore the > points like they don't exist. Anyone who already has 'enterprise' software already running on a distribution without systemd (e.g. any earlier RHEL/CentOS) clearly

Re: [CentOS] logrotate script not working

2015-01-11 Thread SilverTip257
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote: > Hey guys, > > Got a quick question and I hope this is an easy one! > > In my /etc/logrotate.conf file I have the following entry: > > # rotate all of the apache logs -- we'll rotate them here > /var/log/mysqld.log { > weekly > size

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 08:02:26PM +, Always Learning wrote: > Design goals ? Compatibility with and/or minimum disruption to existing > systems ? > > It was arrogant change with absolutely no regard for the existing > Centos/RHEL users. That *is* a strange "design goal" (or 'objective' in >

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Bill Maltby (C4B)
On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 19:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 07:07:38PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: > > > > Well, that's the limit of my offerings. I'm still trying to find the > > thing I used back in C5(?) that raised the panels when the mouse hovered > > over it for X s

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Bill Maltby (C4B)
On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 21:02 -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 01/09/2015 06:07 PM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: > > I'm still trying to find the > > thing I used back in C5(?) that raised the panels when the mouse hovered > > over it for X seconds. With C6 I can't find it anymore and it switches > > w

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 05:12:48PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: > On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 19:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 07:07:38PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, that's the limit of my offerings. I'm still trying to find the > > > thing I use

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-11, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your > thought half a step farther ;-) Or going even farther, if you like CentOS but not systemd, do the work to get CentOS working without it. Unhappy Debian users are trying to do this with

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Always Learning
On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 17:00 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > I know conspiracy theories are fun but your argument is simply > absurd and insulting. At least try to assemble a convincing argument > other than ad hominem and "change = bad". Disruption = BAD Gentle change / gradual change = GOOD

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 5:16 pm, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2015-01-11, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your >> thought half a step farther ;-) > > Or going even farther, if you like CentOS but not systemd, do the work > to get CentOS wor

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if I > look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I chose RedHat way > back, - that was when all Debian (and its clones like Ubuntu,...) admins > were fighting with the consequenc

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 12:13 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Oh, boy. We do seem to have to treat Linux like Windows these days and _reboot_ after any update, not only kernel or glibc update. So much for "Unix-like", sigh ;-( When you are trying to track down unexplained and only semi-repeatable behavior, yo

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 04:19 PM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 21:02 -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: I presume you're talking about panels with "Autohide" set. If you have the GUI gconf-editor installed, it's under apps/panel/global/panel_show_delay. You can also set it from the command lin

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 07:49:02PM -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 01/11/2015 04:19 PM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: > >On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 21:02 -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: > >>I presume you're talking about panels with "Autohide" set. If you have > >>the GUI gconf-editor installed, it's under >

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if >> I >> look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I chose RedHat way >> back, - that was when all Debian (and its cl

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev wrote: PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if I look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I chose RedHat way back, - that

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: >>> On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev wrote: PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 09:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev wrote: PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/11/2015 08:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > On 01/11/2015 09:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: >>> On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2015-01-12, Va

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 10:25 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 01/11/2015 08:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith

[CentOS] Zone file not written to slave DNS server

2015-01-11 Thread Emmett Culley
I have mostly succeeded in getting master and slave DNS servers operational. Mostly, because the zone file is not written when a zone is updated on the master server when the notify and transfer process happens. The slave DNS server gets the changes to the modified zone, but the slave zone fil

Re: [CentOS] Zone file not written to slave DNS server

2015-01-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/11/2015 9:28 PM, Emmett Culley wrote: I have mostly succeeded in getting master and slave DNS servers operational. Mostly, because the zone file is not written when a zone is updated on the master server when the notify and transfer process happens. The slave DNS server gets the changes