On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on this list.
Just your humble opinion, but how do you insist and repeat it :-)
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
> wrote:
> > >>>
> >>>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd
> >>
> >>
>
> No, do you dig a new foundation for your house every 10 years? Tra
Chris wrote:
> In DD-WRT, there is a menu scheduled reboot in the Administration tab.
> If this isn't working (e.g. in Client Mode), you have to setup a cronjob
> manually. Both is described at
>
> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Scheduled_reboot
Thanks, I'll check that.
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Am 08.10.2014 um 19:35 schrieb Valeri Galtsev :
>
> On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:22 pm, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>>>
>>> And the point of it is?
>>>
>>> Can someone just send the team that's working systemd on a nice
>>>
On 10/08/2014 07:39 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Oct 8, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
3.) better support multi-seat environments
Errr... I meant that moving it to userspace makes it easier to support
multi-seat environments.
Hi Jonathan,
What exactly does that mean - multi s
Am 08.10.2014 um 20:18 schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us:
> Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
>> On 08-10-2014 14:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> But oddly, he didn't even mention that there would be a real simple
>>> solution - just add backw
Am 08.10.2014 um 20:25 schrieb Les Mikesell :
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> But oddly, he didn't even mention that there would be a real simple
>>> solution - just add backwards-compatible improvements instead of
>>> actively wrecking the inter
According to the vulnerability test script from shellshocker.net, the latest
bash versions on CentOS5 and CentOS6, 3.2-33.el5_11.4 and 4.1.2-15.el6_5.2,
resp., are still vulnerable to CVE-2014-6277. In fact, on CentOS6, abrtd will
send you a nice report about it. Does anyone know if upstream i
On 10/09/2014 12:26 PM, Lars Hecking wrote:
>
> According to the vulnerability test script from shellshocker.net, the latest
> bash versions on CentOS5 and CentOS6, 3.2-33.el5_11.4 and 4.1.2-15.el6_5.2,
> resp., are still vulnerable to CVE-2014-6277. In fact, on CentOS6, abrtd will
> send you
I noticed this as well but did some homework ;-)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147189
https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-6277
If I understand it correctly they think it's not exploitable anymore.
Still think it should get patched immediately as there is an upstream
pa
On 10/09/2014 06:48 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> I noticed this as well but did some homework ;-)
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147189
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-6277
>
> If I understand it correctly they think it's not exploitable anymore.
> Still think it sh
On 10/09/2014 07:00 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 10/09/2014 06:48 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
>> I noticed this as well but did some homework ;-)
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147189
>> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-6277
>>
>> If I understand it correctly they think
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
> >>
>>> But so did other systems, but they later found out that sometimes you have
>>> to break this backwards to infinity compatibility in order to get some big
>>> progress.
>>
>> Only if the design was bad in the first place. And if the desi
I am attempting to get no menus on the desktop... for CentOS 7.
I did:
rpm -e --nodeps gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu
rpm -e --nodeps gnome-shell-extension-places-menu
But now I get an "Activities" menu at the top... instead.
Any idea how to remove that package... I cant find what it is called.
On Thu, October 9, 2014 7:37 am, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Leon Fauster
> wrote:
>> >>
But so did other systems, but they later found out that sometimes you
have
to break this backwards to infinity compatibility in order to get some
big
progres
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
>
>>> was - the requirements at that time were nearly/completely
>>> different. We have different scenarios right now.
>>
>> Really? What application could you not start with sysv init syntax?
>> What CPU has become too slow to start things se
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:52 PM
> To: Mail List CentOS Users
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dell Dimension 2400 W/Intel 845-G Video
>
> On 10/06/14 21:45, Peter wrote:
> > On 10/06/2014 03:47 PM, Mark LaPierre wr
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 05:29:44AM +, Mingfei Hua wrote:
> Followed line is quoted from “man vmstat”, it means r+b=running
> process + uninterruptible sleep process. So, what’s the definition
> of system load, doesn’t it include running process and process in
> uninterruptible sleep. Which par
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 07:12:50AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
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Am 09.10.2014 um 15:07 schrieb Les Mikesell :
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Valeri Galtsev
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Really? What application could you not start with sysv init syntax?
>>> What CPU has become too slow to start things serially? What feature
>>> do you need that could not have bee
On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
> I would say, CentOS 6 is the best of Linuxes suitable for server (IMHO).
> However, I for one decided to move my servers away from Linux (as from
> "Unix-like" Linux gradually becomes "Windows-like" during last 5 years or
> so). Since some
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
> >>
>>> But what am I doing. The World passed that point...
>>>
>>
>> I guess debugging the GUIs that make the config files accessible will
>> be job security for the young guys that replace us...
>
>
>
> Are you serious? Do you provide manually
On Thu, October 9, 2014 6:09 am, Leon Fauster wrote:
> Am 08.10.2014 um 19:35 schrieb Valeri Galtsev :
>>
>> On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:22 pm, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, wrote:
>>>
Jonathan Billings wrote:
And the point of it is?
Can som
On 10/9/2014 12:22 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
>> consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on this list.
>
> Just your humble opinion, but how do you insist and re
On Thu, October 9, 2014 10:08 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 12:22 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>> Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
>>> consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on th
On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>>
>> I would say, CentOS 6 is the best of Linuxes suitable for server (IMHO).
>> However, I for one decided to move my servers away from Linux (as from
>> "Unix-like" Linux gradually
On 10/9/2014 8:18 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 10:08 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
>> On 10/9/2014 12:22 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>>> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
consen
On Thu, October 9, 2014 2:22 am, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely not a
>> consensus (and likely not even a majority opinion) on this list.
>
> Just your humble opinion, but how do you in
On 10/5/2014 3:17 PM, George Kontostanos wrote:
> I really don't get it. Why get into so much fuss just to rename your
> interfaces
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Eliezer Croitoru
> wrote:
>
>
You might be (like I am) running archaic license servers that have hard coded
ethernet ports in
On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:31 pm, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 07:16:16PM -0700, Keith Keller wrote:
>>
>> I can't speak for John, but presumably you were singled out for making
>> your complaint in a completely ridiculous and inappropriate way.
>
> Please take this pissing co
On Wed, October 8, 2014 11:23 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/8/2014 9:00 PM, Mingfei Hua wrote:
>> The first two number of vmstat is running process and blocked process,
>> the sum of the two number should equal to system load. But it's
>> inconsistent in this case.
>
> linux load average counts
On Wed, October 8, 2014 13:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>>
>> Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
>> systemd publicly wrote about being basically persecuted.
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LennartPoetter
On Wed, October 8, 2014 14:49, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Digimer wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Digimer wrote:
>
>
Airbags, ABS, Traction Control, ACE compatibility, stronger survival
space,
better fuel economy, more comfortable...
On Thu, October 9, 2014 11:12 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Wed, October 8, 2014 13:36, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Robert Arkiletian
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a heads up to those who haven't seen this yet. The main author of
>>> systemd publicly wrote about being basi
On 10/09/2014 09:57 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 07:12:50AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you a
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
>
> I'd rather have people look at this:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd-733847/
>
Yes, "much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility" is exactly
right. Never mind the fact that you break everythin
Once upon a time, Steve Clark said:
> Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you are going have a
> computer that
> has multiple graphics cards with multiple keyboards and multiple mice divided
> into
> seats. Really?
>
> Where do I buy this computer?
Umm, Wal-Mart? Best Buy? You d
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
> >>>
>>> What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
>>
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
>>
> Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you are going have a
> computer that
> has multiple graphics
On 10/09/2014 01:13 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
What exactly does that mean - multi seat environments?
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
Ok I read the information. So as I understand it you are going have a
computer th
Hi Everyone,
I need to keep 2 systems identical. Mostly e-mail directories, web
directories, mysql, etc. The goal here is to have a 2nd system ready to go
it the first one starts to exhibit hardware issues.
What are options to have this happen? I'm going out on a limb and thinking
rsync but I hav
On 10/9/2014 10:39 AM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
I need to keep 2 systems identical. Mostly e-mail directories, web
directories, mysql, etc. The goal here is to have a 2nd system ready to go
it the first one starts to exhibit hardware issues.
What are options to have this happen? I'm going o
On 2014-10-09, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
>
> I need to keep 2 systems identical. Mostly e-mail directories, web
> directories, mysql, etc. The goal here is to have a 2nd system ready to go
> it the first one starts to exhibit hardware issues.
>
> What are options to have this happen? I'm going
>
> Can anyone provide some insight for me?
>
This would be a perfect use case for ZFS snapshot send and receive!
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On 10/9/2014 10:55 AM, Keith Keller wrote:
[lysncd is] basically a daemon monitoring inotify events and sending them to an
rsync, so it can keep things up to date more easily. (I have never used
it myself, so caveat emptor.)
rsync is only safe to use on something like a database server if you
On 10/9/2014 11:06 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:
>Can anyone provide some insight for me?
>
This would be a perfect use case for ZFS snapshot send and receive!
Its not perfect if you don't want to lose all database transactions, new
files, and email between the last update and the point of hardwar
On Thu, October 9, 2014 12:39 pm, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I need to keep 2 systems identical. Mostly e-mail directories, web
> directories, mysql,
With databases you can not make sync of their data directories (on a
filesystem level) while the daemon is running and access
Am 09.10.2014 um 16:57 schrieb Les Mikesell :
> I have. And I know how to. Ascii sort order is a straightforward
> concept for both humans and computers. I knew how to deal with
> scenarios with subtle issues like the network service 'completing'
> startup even though the connected switch was st
>
> drbd really is the best answer as its continuous in-order replication.
Assuming of course that you dont need any kind of performance from your
filesystem drdb is indeed the answer.
ZFS snapshots can however be run on a per second basis which is quite neat!
What ever you choose to do you woul
Am 09.10.2014 um 20:11 schrieb John R Pierce :
> On 10/9/2014 11:06 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:
>>> >Can anyone provide some insight for me?
>>> >
>> This would be a perfect use case for ZFS snapshot send and receive!
>
> Its not perfect if you don't want to lose all database transactions, new
> fil
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Leon Fauster wrote:
> Am 09.10.2014 um 16:57 schrieb Les Mikesell :
>> I have. And I know how to. Ascii sort order is a straightforward
>> concept for both humans and computers. I knew how to deal with
>> scenarios with subtle issues like the network service 'com
Hi John,
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:44 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 10:39 AM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
>
>> I need to keep 2 systems identical. Mostly e-mail directories, web
>> directories, mysql, etc. The goal here is to have a 2nd system ready to go
>> it the first one starts t
On 10/9/2014 11:57 AM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
Just to clarify. What state is the slave in?
If master goes down, how does the slave become active? Just reboot it and
let it come up? The wording "slave copy can't be mounted until drdb is
stopped" leads me to believe the slave is in some al
OK, I just updated my two CentOS 5 boxes (my laptop and by desktop) and
discoved that FF 31 is totally borked -- it seems not to be possible to
install either Firebug (either 2.0.4 or 1.12.8) or Firefox 2, the theme
reloaded (1.0.8). These two addons are critical to me. So I have snaged the FF
24.8
Forwarded on Mark's behalf...
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Hi, Les,
Somewhere between late afternoon yesterday, and this morning, something
hit me: regardless of whether I post a new topic,
Robert Heller writes:
> OK, I just updated my two CentOS 5 boxes (my laptop and by desktop) and
> discoved that FF 31 is totally borked -- it seems not to be possible to
> install either Firebug (either 2.0.4 or 1.12.8) or Firefox 2, the theme
> reloaded (1.0.8). These two addons are critical to me
On 10/09/2014 12:58 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> OK, I just updated my two CentOS 5 boxes (my laptop and by desktop) and
> discoved that FF 31 is totally borked -- it seems not to be possible to
> install either Firebug (either 2.0.4 or 1.12.8) or Firefox 2, the theme
> reloaded (1.0.8). These two ad
On 10/09/2014 09:30 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Forwarded on Mark's behalf...
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From:
> Date: Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:04 PM
> Subject: CentOS list troubles
> To: Les Mikesell
>
>
> Hi, Les,
>
>Somewhere between late afternoon yesterday, and this
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:24:32AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >>
>
> No, at the moment I run services in FreeBSD jails. Even a single host
> sometimes lives in several jails
On Thu, October 9, 2014 4:27 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:24:32AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, October 9, 2014 9:37 am, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, October 8, 2014 12:50, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> >>
>>
>> No, at the moment I run services in FreeBS
Hi John,
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:53 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 11:57 AM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
>
>> Just to clarify. What state is the slave in?
>>
>> If master goes down, how does the slave become active? Just reboot it and
>> let it come up? The wording "slave copy can'
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On 2014-10-09, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 10:55 AM, Keith Keller wrote:
>> [lysncd is] basically a daemon monitoring inotify events and sending them to
>> an
>> rsync, so it can keep things up to date more easily. (I have never used
>> it myself, so caveat emptor.)
>
> rsync is only saf
Karanbir,
mark is currently moderated away from the list.
>
Would you be able to help us understand what Mark did to have this happen?
I ask since you recently sent the e-mail about list conduct. I think it
would help us to understand what specifically you used for criteria to
moderate in this
Hi Jason,
On 10/10/2014 12:49 AM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
> Karanbir,
>
> mark is currently moderated away from the list.
>>
>
> Would you be able to help us understand what Mark did to have this happen?
I've emailed him privately, that might be the best way to work this.
He's not the on
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 10:08 am, Igal @ getRailo.org wrote:
> > On 10/9/2014 12:22 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> >> On 10/08/2014 07:50 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >>> Again, this is just $0.02 worth of my own opinion, definitely
On 10/9/2014 8:18 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
M$ Windows is the only OS (and I knew quite a few of the past and know
quite a few of present) whose creators tell you you can not safely run it
without 3rd part software (anti-virus)...
Windows has included a decent A/V system, variously called Micro
On Thu, October 9, 2014 7:41 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 8:18 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> M$ Windows is the only OS (and I knew quite a few of the past and know
>> quite a few of present) whose creators tell you you can not safely run
>> it
>> without 3rd part software (anti-virus)...
actually, I think that the anti-virus that comes with Windows is only
available for desktop OSs like Windows 7, and not available for the
Server OSs like 2008 R2.
On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Thu, October 9, 2014 7:41 pm, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 10/9/2014 8:18 AM, Valeri Ga
On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
BTW, the whole idea of "antivirus" is flawed. It is based on "enumerate
bad". You can't, as one never knows what will be invented in a future.
I agree, but I don't know what else you can put in the hands of the
novice, unless its the iPhone world of
For those of you who use xen4centos, but are not on the centos-virt mail
list (shame on you if you do that :D) ..
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-virt/2014-October/004132.html
If you can test the auto update functionality of the kernel as outlined
in that post and report the results (hop
On 10/09/2014 04:12 PM, Thomas Eriksson wrote:
> On 10/09/2014 12:58 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
>> OK, I just updated my two CentOS 5 boxes (my laptop and by desktop) and
>> discoved that FF 31 is totally borked -- it seems not to be possible to
>> install either Firebug (either 2.0.4 or 1.12.8) or F
Most people forget that DRDB is a 'clustered' storage that creates a new
block device on top of existing block devices, over the network.
There are issues like SPLIT BRAIN and a possible data inconsistency, should
there be multiple network timeouts, congestions (since it is all network
based) etc.
I have a CentOS 6.5 x86_64 system that's been running problem-free for
quite a while.
Recently, it's locked-up hard several times. It's a headless server,
but I do have IP KVM. However, when it's locked up, all I can see are
a few lines of kernel stack trace. No hints to the problem in the
syst
Is it under some type of ddos attack?
What's running on this machine? In front of it?
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On 10/9/2014 8:19 PM, Micky wrote:
Most people forget that DRDB is a 'clustered' storage that creates a new
block device on top of existing block devices, over the network.
There are issues like SPLIT BRAIN and a possible data inconsistency, should
there be multiple network timeouts, congestions
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