Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) mark, CentOS 6.5 ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) mark, CentOS 6.5 ___

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread mark
On 09/25/14 03:09, Johan Vermeulen wrote: op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple doze

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Johan Vermeulen
op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: On 09/25/14 03:09, Johan Vermeulen wrote: op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs w

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Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/25/2014 01:07 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote: > good morning, > You should 'yum update' as soon as possible to resolve this issue. > > I installed the update on C5 and C6 machines, but I do not see any > difference in the output of "bash --version". Is that the expected > behaviour? > >

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread John Doe
From: Johan Vermeulen > op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >> >> mark > > Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. > > grts, Johan You can press the "Alt" key to show the menu. JD _

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: > From: Johan Vermeulen > >> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >>> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >>> >>> mark >> >> Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. >> >> grts, Johan > > You can pre

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: >> From: Johan Vermeulen >>> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >>> Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. No. 99.44% of the time,

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:09:15AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > developers to follow this: > > Don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary. > > (it was excellent attitude to programming I was doing once: this way you > diminish the chance to break something that works...) Probab

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Lindemann
On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exi

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 9:13 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: >>> From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: > Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus > Then maybe you are stuck

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Steve Lindemann wrote: > On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen > op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >> It is *completel

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread John Doe
If I understood correctly, the current fix is incomplete and another fix is planned? Also, in the advisory, RH says that after the update, servers need to be rebooted... Really? Aside from cgi/php, just closing all shells isn't enough? Thx, JD ___ C

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 9:42 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Steve Lindemann wrote: >> On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: > From: Johan Vermeulen >> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >>> Yu

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Tom Bishop
>> > > I'm in the same fix... But. When I will find open source, acceptable > browser which I can predict will last and will have the same great > attitude late netscape or mozilla had, I will start installing it > simultaneously with firefox, yet will make it default browser, which users > can swi

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Lindemann
On 9/25/2014 8:42 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no me

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Ron Yorston
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >palemoon looks nice My concern with Pale Moon is that it's based on the Firefox 24 extended support release, which is no longer supported. Don't know how that'll play out. In the meantime I've added exclude=firefox to my yum configuration and am sticking with Firefox 24.

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread Paul Norton
John Doe wrote: If I understood correctly, the current fix is incomplete and another fix is planned? Yes. More info here - https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7169 Also, in the advisory, RH says that after the update, servers need to be rebooted... Really? No. From https://ac

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 10:10 am, Ron Yorston wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>palemoon looks nice > > My concern with Pale Moon is that it's based on the Firefox 24 extended > support release, Sad. If there is no own developers team behind that, it hardly will survive "enterprise level" len

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Tom Bishop wrote: >>> >> I'm in the same fix... But. When I will find open source, acceptable >> browser which I can predict will last and will have the same great >> attitude late netscape or mozilla had, I will start installing it >> simultaneously with firefox, yet will make it default browser,

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Tom Bishop
> > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my > manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't > agency (non-DoD) that we work at > >mark > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@cento

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Tom Bishop wrote: I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Rus

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Lindemann
On 9/25/2014 9:07 AM, Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:42 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef:

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 11:16 am, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > > > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Tom Bishop wrote: >>> I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and >>> see if we can get it added to his repo. >> >> Maybe we can get it into extras? I m

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
On 09/25/2014 04:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Yes, I still didn't find replacement for firefox... so, anyone who has a any suggestions of decent open source browser, please, let me know. maybe try seamonkey, I've been using it for ages (basically since firefox split from mozilla suite ;-) )

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Tom Bishop wrote: >>> I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and >>> see if we can get it added to his repo. >> >> Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to >> my

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Александр Кириллов
Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't agency (non-DoD) that we work at li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Jake Shipton
On 25/09/14 17:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Tom Bishop wrote: I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. >>> >>> Maybe we can get it into e

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Jake Shipton wrote: > On 25/09/14 17:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >>> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Tom Bishop wrote: > I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to > Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. >>>

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:18 PM, wrote: >>> >> Guess it's the old "if it ain't American, it ain't right" attitude? :-). > > Don't be absurd. How 'bout "can we be sure that no one's inserted nasties > into the code?" How 'bout "who else has looked at and compared the code to > the project source?

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Sorry, missing footnotes to last email: 1] you'll notice I never mention the organization name - I really am not allowed to speak for my organization, or my company. 2] Partly because I work for a federal contractor mark ___ CentOS mailing lis

[CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7

2014-09-25 Thread Jerry Geis
There is a README file on CentOS 7 in /etc/init.d that says Note that traditional init scripts continue to function on a systemd system. An init script /etc/rc.d/init.d/foobar is implicitly mapped into a service unit foobar.service during system initilization So I dropped my file in the above dir

Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7

2014-09-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/25/2014 11:39 AM, Jerry Geis wrote: There is a README file on CentOS 7 in /etc/init.d that says Note that traditional init scripts continue to function on a systemd system. An init script /etc/rc.d/init.d/foobar is implicitly mapped into a service unit foobar.service during system initiliza

[CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Well, I've set up one of our new JetStors. xfs took *seconds* to put a filesystem on it. We're talking what df -h shows as 66TB. (Pardon me, my mind just SEGV'd on that statement) Using bonnie++, I found that a) GPT and partitioning gave was insignificantly different than creating an

Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7

2014-09-25 Thread Jerry Geis
>is your init.d script chmod +x ? >just putting something in init.d isn't sufficient, it has to be linked >in rc?.d as a S##name ... which chkconfig on (or systemctl) are >supposed to do Yes the script is executable... forgot to mention that. >From the comment in the README file, I thought th

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs

2014-09-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/25/2014 12:41 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I do have a question for the group mind, though: mounting these monstrous partitions... should I, or, in fact, do I*need* to give, as a mount option inode64? There will be a*lot* of files on this sucker What are the pros and cons of that? yes

Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Jerry Geis wrote: >>is your init.d script chmod +x ? > >>just putting something in init.d isn't sufficient, it has to be linked >>in rc?.d as a S##name ... which chkconfig on (or systemctl) are >>supposed to do > > Yes the script is executable... forgot to mention that. > > From the comment in th

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Clark
On 09/24/2014 12:11 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 09/24/2014 10:26 AM, Jim Perrin wrote: You should 'yum update' as soon as possible to resolve this issue. Here's why you should care: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Clark
On 09/24/2014 12:11 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 09/24/2014 10:26 AM, Jim Perrin wrote: You should 'yum update' as soon as possible to resolve this issue. Here's why you should care: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Thompson
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create directories after the first 2TB(?) fills up. I have recently found that with XFS and inode64, certain applications won't work properly when the file system is exported w/NFS4 to a 32-bi

[CentOS] daemon for nfs client

2014-09-25 Thread Dan Hyatt
In days of old, in Solaris there was a daemon for NFS Client, and NFS server (actually several including portmap...). I am unable to find reference to the daemon that runs NFS client But the RedHat Documentation does not explain the NFS client daemon. Is this a service or something else. on

Re: [CentOS] LS command bizzare behavior

2014-09-25 Thread Dan Hyatt
No it is not windows FS, this is a Hitachi Storage array managed by RedHat storage nodes. How do I clear client side NFS without a reboot (sorry about the cross post) For server side, it is simple service nfs restart. But it looks like redhat/centos no longer has a nfs client service. On 9/22

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs

2014-09-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/25/2014 2:01 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create directories after the first 2TB(?) fills up. I have recently found that with XFS and inode64, certain applications won't work properly when

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs

2014-09-25 Thread m . roth
Steve Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: > >> yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create directories >> after the first 2TB(?) fills up. > > I have recently found that with XFS and inode64, certain applications won't work properly when the file system

Re: [CentOS] daemon for nfs client

2014-09-25 Thread David Both
Try this: http://www.databook.bz/?page_id=246 On 09/25/2014 05:13 PM, Dan Hyatt wrote: In days of old, in Solaris there was a daemon for NFS Client, and NFS server (actually several including portmap...). I am unable to find reference to the daemon that runs NFS client But the RedHat Docume

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs

2014-09-25 Thread Steve Thompson
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: On 9/25/2014 2:01 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: > yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create > directories after the first 2TB(?) fills up. I have recently found that with XFS and inod

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs

2014-09-25 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-25, Steve Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: > >> yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create >> directories >> after the first 2TB(?) fills up. Close, it's 1TB. But you won't be able to create *any* new inodes, directories or files. h

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Jake Shipton
On 25/09/14 18:18, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Jake Shipton wrote: >> >> Guess it's the old "if it ain't American, it ain't right" >> attitude? :-). > > Don't be absurd. How 'bout "can we be sure that no one's inserted > nasties into the code?" How 'bout "who else has looked at and > compared the c

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 09:09 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary. Extremely wise advice. Seems upstream do not always agree :-) -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 18:16 +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > > > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my > > manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't > > agency (non-DoD)

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, September 25, 2014 7:32 pm, Always Learning wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 18:16 +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >> >> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> > >> > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo >> to my >> > manager, who understandab

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread Cliff Pratt
Take the case of an Apache Bash CGI. This will have been loaded when Apache started, so Apache will have to be restarted to get the new one. There may be other similar cases. So the best thing is to reboot. Cheers, Cliff On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:39 AM, John Doe wrote: > If I understood correc

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread Cliff Pratt
I didn't notice you had mentioned CGI. CGI (and PHP) is only one case where a copy of bash is loaded. There are many other possibilities, eg wrapper bash scripts, bash shell called from programs. I don't know whether or not there are any such cases on my machines, or if the exploit can be executed

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-26, Cliff Pratt wrote: > Take the case of an Apache Bash CGI. This will have been loaded when Apache > started, so Apache will have to be restarted to get the new one. Based on my (admittedly limited) testing I do not believe this is the case. Apache exec()'s the interpreter on each r

Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7

2014-09-25 Thread James Hogarth
On 25 Sep 2014 19:39, "Jerry Geis" wrote: > > I used to use rc.local and just need a script to run AFTER everything else > has ran. > no special start/stop/reload is needed... just a simple script. > 1) you can still use /etc/rc.d/rc.local 2) read the systemd.service man page and do a little lear

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread James Hogarth
On 26 Sep 2014 05:46, "Cliff Pratt" wrote: > > Take the case of an Apache Bash CGI. This will have been loaded when Apache > started, so Apache will have to be restarted to get the new one. There may > be other similar cases. So the best thing is to reboot. > This is false and a major misundersta

Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7

2014-09-25 Thread James Hogarth
On 26 September 2014 07:24, James Hogarth wrote: > > On 25 Sep 2014 19:39, "Jerry Geis" wrote: > > > > I used to use rc.local and just need a script to run AFTER everything > else > > has ran. > > no special start/stop/reload is needed... just a simple script. > > > > 1) you can still use /etc/r