Re: [CentOS] LibreOffice rpm's vs Centos testing repo

2012-03-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 03/05/2012 04:45 PM, n...@li.nux.ro wrote: > Ljubomir Ljubojevic writes: > >> I have been having OpenOffice 3.2 for EL 5.x in my repo since it's >> release, by unpacking it in my repo folder, but I think desktop >> integration needed some work. >> >> It is much easier to install on several syste

Re: [CentOS] KVM CentOS i386

2012-03-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 03/02/2012 06:28 PM, William Hooper wrote: > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Anton Zaytsev > wrote: >> Hi, guys. >> >> I did search over internet but found nothing useful. >> Is there a way to install KVM on CentOS i386? > > To quote the FAQ: > > "Upstream only provides KVM support on 64-bit

Re: [CentOS] gdm in 6.2 missing keyboard menu?

2012-03-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 02/28/2012 05:31 PM, James Pearson wrote: > I have a box running 6.0 that gives a keyboard layout menu via gdm when > logging in. > > I've just installed a 6.2 box, but there is no keyboard layout menu > > I've found a bugzilla entry at: > >

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.2 software raid 10 with LVM - Need help with degraded drive and only one MBR

2012-03-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 03/03/2012 06:48 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > This was a raid 10, would the same apply? If I do a fresh reinstall how > can I guarantee that the MBR is across all drives? I do not think you NEED to reinstall entire system. Check if there is /boot partition on the rest of the disks. If there i

Re: [CentOS] kickstart partitioning and cylinder boundary

2012-03-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 03/06/2012 02:33 PM, Erez Zarum wrote: > As I understand anaconda uses parted to partition (starting from > centos 6), using this as example (kickstart configuration file): > clearpart --all --drives=sda --initlabel > part /boot --asprimary --size=200 --fstype=ext2 --ondisk=sda > part swap --asp

Re: [CentOS] Recent kernel update vs usb disk

2012-03-07 Thread John Doe
From: wwp > When I plug the disk, this wakes it up and I see in /var/log/messages: > kernel: usb 2-4.2: USB disconnect, address 11 > kernel: usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 13 > kernel: usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1ca1, idProduct=18a9 > kernel: usb 2-2: N

Re: [CentOS] Recent kernel update vs usb disk

2012-03-07 Thread wwp
Hello John, On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 05:25:55 -0800 (PST) John Doe wrote: > From: wwp > > > When I plug the disk, this wakes it up and I see in /var/log/messages: > > kernel: usb 2-4.2: USB disconnect, address 11 > > kernel: usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 13 > > kerne

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.2 software raid 10 with LVM - Need help with degraded drive and only one MBR

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: > Essentially I guess the short question is, How do I make a non bootable > drive bootable if the original MBR is no longer available? If you haven't gotten this to work yet, it is probably as simple as booting the Centos install disk in res

Re: [CentOS] Recent kernel update vs usb disk

2012-03-07 Thread John Doe
From: wwp > No, the device is not even accessible using /dev/sdXX. Gparted and > other tools don't even see it. But my laptop's internal disk and other > externals USB (SATA or IDE) disks are accessible. > The issue is not present with kernel 2.6.32-131.21.1.el6, > it's present with updates 2.6.3

Re: [CentOS] xfs, inode64, and NFS

2012-03-07 Thread Ross Walker
On Mar 7, 2012, at 2:17 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/06/12 10:40 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: >> I've had to use inode64 on far smaller file systems (15TB) due to inode >> counts (many files) and not file system size. > > > My understanding of it is, the inode number is its physical positio

Re: [CentOS] Recent kernel update vs usb disk

2012-03-07 Thread wwp
Hello John, On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 06:39:50 -0800 (PST) John Doe wrote: > From: wwp > > > No, the device is not even accessible using /dev/sdXX. Gparted and > > other tools don't even see it. But my laptop's internal disk and other > > externals USB (SATA or IDE) disks are accessible. > > The iss

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread William Warren
well ubuntu allows me to boot from MD RAID10...so there's something they are doing that allows that to boot. I think RH needs to take a cue in that areaI'm not going to reconfigure my entire array to accommodate centos in this instance. if i don't need MDRAID 10 boot then this machine will co

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM, William Warren wrote: > well ubuntu allows me to boot from MD RAID10...so there's something they > are doing that allows that to boot. That ubuntu version has probably switched to grub2. Good luck debugging it when it breaks - it is very different. -- Les Mike

[CentOS] hardware issues? driver issues?

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Got a bunch of servers from Penguin. Supermicro m/b's H8QG6. We put a 3tb drive in for additional workspace for the users, and some of them won't read, others will go for weeks, then spit out DRDY errors. lshw shows the controller as an ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA. I did notice that it shows *-sto

Re: [CentOS] hardware issues? driver issues?

2012-03-07 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Wednesday 07 March 2012 11.17.15 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Got a bunch of servers from Penguin. Supermicro m/b's H8QG6. We put a 3tb > drive in for additional workspace for the users, and some of them won't > read, others will go for weeks, then spit out DRDY errors. lshw shows the > controller

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Ross Walker
On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM, William Warren > wrote: >> well ubuntu allows me to boot from MD RAID10...so there's something they >> are doing that allows that to boot. > > That ubuntu version has probably switched to grub2. Good luck > debu

[CentOS] Cloud on CentOS Server

2012-03-07 Thread John Hinton
I'm looking into adding a cloud to one of my servers. Criteria: security accessible via Windoze, Android Mobile Devices, iPhones, iPads, Macs Preferably something living under one of the better repos, such as epel An active project doing updates and adding features. I don't suppose any of you hav

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Ross Walker wrote: > On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM, William Warren >> wrote: >>> well ubuntu allows me to boot from MD RAID10...so there's something >>> they are doing that allows that to boot. >> >> That ubuntu version has probably switched

Re: [CentOS] hardware issues? driver issues?

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Peter Kjellström wrote: > On Wednesday 07 March 2012 11.17.15 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Got a bunch of servers from Penguin. Supermicro m/b's H8QG6. We put a >> 3tb drive in for additional workspace for the users, and some of them >> won't read, others will go for weeks, then spit out DRDY errors.

Re: [CentOS] xfs, inode64, and NFS

2012-03-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/07/12 6:47 AM, Ross Walker wrote: > These days XFS should always be inode64 enabled, given the size of disks, and > NFS should have been fixed a long, long time ago. yes. problem is, we have clients that are running all sorts of OS's, including older versions of Solaris... this is a man

[CentOS] hfs with extended attribute support

2012-03-07 Thread Wessel van der Aart
Hi all, I´ve got a HFS+(not journaled) volume connected to my centos6.2 test server, i installed the kmod-hfs(plus) packages and read/write works all fine. but since i´m going to use this for serving mac home folders via netatalk i would like to mount it with support for Extended Attributes an

Re: [CentOS] Cloud on CentOS Server

2012-03-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/07/12 10:06 AM, John Hinton wrote: > I'm looking into adding a cloud to one of my servers. what does "a cloud" mean in this context ? to me, a cloud is a set of homogenous servers running distributed applications. classic cloud is google.the term has been degraded to also refer to a

Re: [CentOS] Cloud on CentOS Server

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:06 PM, John Hinton wrote: > I'm looking into adding a cloud to one of my servers. > > Criteria: > security > accessible via Windoze, Android Mobile Devices, iPhones, iPads, Macs > Preferably something living under one of the better repos, such as epel > An active project

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread William Warren
the problem with that is when your boot drive dies your can't boot...with ubuntu at least if any drive dies i can stilll boot off of the other 3..:) On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Ross Walker wrote: > On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Willi

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Miguel Medalha
> the problem with that is when your boot drive dies your can't boot...with > ubuntu at least if any drive dies i can stilll boot off of the other 3..:) You don't need a boot drive, you only need a *boot partition*. So, you create a small *boot partition* with RAID1 and then allocate the rest o

Re: [CentOS] hfs with extended attribute support

2012-03-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, March 07, 2012 01:17:15 PM Wessel van der Aart wrote: > so i add user_xattr and acl to my fstab options but then it fails to mount. > checking the error in dmesg just gives me ¨hfs: unable to parse mount > options¨. > does anyone know what´s going on and what i should do to make this

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Miguel Medalha
> i then have to redo my entire array...and loose space inside the > array. Plus if i raid1 it then i only have two bootable disks..at > least this way i have 4 bootable disks..:) Lose space? 100 or 200MB? Why the heck wouldn't you be able to spare 100 or 200MB of the gigantic size of today's

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Markus Falb
On 7.3.2012 19:08, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Ross Walker wrote: >> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Les Mikesell >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM, William Warren >>> >>> wrote: well ubuntu allows me to boot from MD RAID10...so there's something they are doing that allows th

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Miguel Medalha
>> Plus if i raid1 it then i only have two bootable disks..at least this way i have 4 bootable disks..:) No, you don't have 4. Please study the way a RAID10 array works. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listin

Re: [CentOS] xfs, inode64, and NFS

2012-03-07 Thread Warren Young
On 3/7/2012 11:16 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/07/12 6:47 AM, Ross Walker wrote: >> These days XFS should always be inode64 enabled, given the size of disks, >> and NFS should have been fixed a long, long time ago. > > yes. problem is, we have clients that are running all sorts of OS's, > inc

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:28 PM, William Warren wrote: > the problem with that is when your boot drive dies your can't boot...with > ubuntu at least if any drive dies i can stilll boot off of the other 3..:) > You can make a raid1 with 4 members if you want - and you might as well since you'll wa

Re: [CentOS] xfs, inode64, and NFS

2012-03-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/07/12 11:27 AM, Warren Young wrote: > Why do those embedded systems have to see a whole 74 TB storage midden? >Why not slice off a 1 TB or so LVM slice for them? LVM management blows chunks. each of these arrays (we have dozens of these 74TiB storage servers) will end up nearly filled

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Markus Falb wrote: > On 7.3.2012 19:08, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Ross Walker wrote: >>> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Les Mikesell >>> wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM, William Warren wrote: > well ubuntu allows me to boot from MD RAID10...so there's something > t

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:01 PM, wrote: > > >> You may have noticed that redhat recommends 250M >> http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/s2-diskpartrecommend-x86.html > > Yeah, well, some of us have many servers more than 4 yrs old; so I'm > assuming

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:01 PM, wrote: >> > >>> You may have noticed that redhat recommends 250M >>> http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/s2-diskpartrecommend-x86.html >> >> Yeah, well, some of us have many servers more than 4

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> If the future continues anything like the past, you'll be be able to >> buy something new with twice the speed and 10x the space by then and >> be better off starting over than allocating more than you need today. > > you are re-installing

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM, wrote: >> >> If the future continues anything like the past, you'll be be able to >> buy something new with twice the speed and 10x the space by then and >> be better off starting over than allocating more than you need today. > > a) You think I, or a *lot* of othe

[CentOS] Anyone recognize "www-mysql"?

2012-03-07 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
I'm transitioning someone's quite old server [Debian] to a new CentOS6 host. All going pretty well. But they server up some functionality using CGI scripts via Apache that use something referred to on the Debian box as the www-mysql package? This a binary that executes HTML pages containing embe

Re: [CentOS] xfs, inode64, and NFS

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:46 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/07/12 11:27 AM, Warren Young wrote: >> Why do those embedded systems have to see a whole 74 TB storage midden? >>    Why not slice off a 1 TB or so LVM slice for them? > > LVM management blows chunks.  each of these arrays (we have dozen

Re: [CentOS] Anyone recognize "www-mysql"?

2012-03-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/07/12 1:00 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > This a binary that executes HTML > pages containing embedded SQL statements. I found the debian package here: http://archive.debian.net/etch/www-mysql ah, and peeking into the source tarball, www-mysql (and www-pgsql) build from www-sql, which c

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM, wrote: >>> >>> If the future continues anything like the past, you'll be be able to >>> buy something new with twice the speed and 10x the space by then and >>> be better off starting over than allocating more than you need today. >> >> a) You

Re: [CentOS] Anyone recognize "www-mysql"?

2012-03-07 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 07.03.2012 um 22:18 schrieb John R Pierce: > On 03/07/12 1:00 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >> This a binary that executes HTML >> pages containing embedded SQL statements. > > > I found the debian package here: http://archive.debian.net/etch/www-mysql > > ah, and peeking into the source t

Re: [CentOS] Anyone recognize "www-mysql"?

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Rainer Duffner wrote: > > Am 07.03.2012 um 22:18 schrieb John R Pierce: > >> On 03/07/12 1:00 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >>> This a binary that executes HTML >>> pages containing embedded SQL statements. >> >> >> I found the debian package here: >> http://archive.debian.net/etch/www-mysql >> >>

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM, wrote: > >>> a) You think I, or a *lot* of other folks, are going to do that at home? >>>       (Please - I'm trying to get my fiancee to at *least* go from >>>        *shudder* Vista to Win7) >> >> If you leave them on, add up the power cost of running an old box

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM, wrote: >> a) You think I, or a *lot* of other folks, are going to do that at home? (Please - I'm trying to get my fiancee to at *least* go from        *shudder* Vista to Win7) >>> >>> If you leave them on, add up the power cost

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM, wrote: >> a) You think I, or a *lot* of other folks, are going to do that at home? (Please - I'm trying to get my fiancee to at *least* go from        *shudder* Vista to Win7) >>> >>> If you leave them on, add up the power cost of runnin

Re: [CentOS] Anyone recognize "www-mysql"?

2012-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:26 PM, wrote: >> >> It's probably also riddled with buffer-overflows. >> Better let it go... > > Why? I know that none of the zillions of lines of C I wrote in the late > eighties and through the nineties were "riddled with buffer overflows". Ummm sorry, but pretty much

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/07/12 2:09 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Heh. Many of the new servers we are getting are all on the order of 48 or > 64 cores, and they eat and drink power. The same UPS that would handle six > 4 or 8 core boxes can handle*three*, if we're lucky, when a clustering > job's running yes but

Re: [CentOS] xfs, inode64, and NFS

2012-03-07 Thread Ross Walker
On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:16 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 03/07/12 6:47 AM, Ross Walker wrote: >> These days XFS should always be inode64 enabled, given the size of disks, >> and NFS should have been fixed a long, long time ago. > > yes. problem is, we have clients that are running all sorts of OS

Re: [CentOS] md raid 10

2012-03-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 03/07/2012 07:43 PM, Miguel Medalha wrote: > > >> Plus if i raid1 it then i only have two bootable disks..at least > this way i have 4 bootable disks..:) > > No, you don't have 4. Please study the way a RAID10 array works. > > ___ > CentOS mailing l

Re: [CentOS] Cloud on CentOS Server

2012-03-07 Thread Devin Reade
John R Pierce wrote: > I don't understand how ANYTHING you do on a single server could be > called 'cloudy'. Well, if it catches fire and produces lots of white smoke ... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listi