Re: [CentOS] clustering

2011-11-16 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | Hey folks, | | I just went through the archives trying to find some info on this but | did not come up with much other than it seems there are a few experts | here on the list. | | I have no experience with clustering and have just taken over a Stem | Cell Research

Re: [CentOS] UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Rushton Martin
One exception is those machines behind a firewall that does not allow downloads. The only upgrade path then is to download on another machine and burn DVDs. CR repos are not helpful in such a case! Martin Rushton HPC System Manager, Weapons Technologies Tel: 01959 514777, Mobile: 07939 219057 e

Re: [CentOS] UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Rushton Martin wrote: > One exception is those machines behind a firewall that does not allow > downloads. The only upgrade path then is to download on another machine > and burn DVDs. CR repos are not helpful in such a case! I really don't get your point. How is that wors

Re: [CentOS] clustering

2011-11-16 Thread Alain Péan
Le 16/11/2011 04:09, Tony Schreiner a écrit : > I recommend you check out ROCKS > > http://www.rocksclusters.org > > CentOS based clustering with lots of built in goodness. Hi, I also recommend Rocks Cluster, that I used on my site. Recently, they switch to OGS, Open Grid Schduler, the open sour

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/16/2011 07:55 AM, Christopher Chan piše: > On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:30 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:14 PM, Rob Kampen piše: >> >>> run a virtualbox with windoze XP for a realtor app that only works on IE >>> (yeah, go figure, we are in 2011 and they force

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Yves Bellefeuille wrote: >> What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the >> internet? I'd guess it is already over 50%. > > Not over 50%, but 5,5%, according to this source: > http://www.netmarketshare.com/ I may have exaggerated the figure, but I don't believe it is as low as t

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Christopher Chan wrote: >> I find it very hard to believe that 90% of Chinese are using desktops. >> What about all those girls tweeting on the bus to school? >> There must be billions of them. >> >> > Farmers/peasants have phones? > > All those girls tweeting? > > Aren't you confusing Japan

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Rushton Martin
Only that with fixed point releases you set aside a day or so to download, burn, transport and load. You wouldn't want to be doing that daily on the off chance that something relevant has been added. Horses for courses, the problem won't affect most people as Nataraj said. Martin Rushton HPC S

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:44:26AM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I think your image of China is rather out-of-date. I have a novel suggestion. As this has absolutely NOTHING to do with CentOS (like usual) how about taking it to private e-mail?

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Rushton Martin wrote: > Only that with fixed point releases you set aside a day or so to > download, burn, transport and load. You wouldn't want to be doing that > daily on the off chance that something relevant has been added. Horses > for courses, the problem won't affect

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/16/2011 12:36 PM, Timothy Murphy piše: > Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > >>> What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the >>> internet? I'd guess it is already over 50%. >> >> Not over 50%, but 5,5%, according to this source: >> http://www.netmarketshare.com/ > > > I may have e

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 07:44 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Christopher Chan wrote: > >>> I find it very hard to believe that 90% of Chinese are using desktops. >>> What about all those girls tweeting on the bus to school? >>> There must be billions of them. >>> >>> >> Farmers/peasants have p

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Drew
> Agreed! The cramped screen space (I run dual vid cards in sli with 4 > monitors with development apps spread all over them!), sluggish response > (open what I have running on my work station and any laptop goes into > crawl mode), heat (if you really run it in your lap as the name infers) > and t

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread m . roth
Drew wrote: >> Agreed! The cramped screen space (I run dual vid cards in sli with 4 >> monitors with development apps spread all over them!), sluggish response >> (open what I have running on my work station and any laptop goes into > And the funny thing, from my perspective at least, is that I'm

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:54:31AM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > Well, yes, I can think of a hell of a lot of things that *beat* > ->working<- at home in your living room, which suggests that you're doing > well over 40 hours/week. Been there, done that, actually have a t-shirt. > Do it again

[CentOS] was, Re: Changes at Red Hat confou>n

2011-11-16 Thread m . roth
John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:54:31AM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >> Well, yes, I can think of a hell of a lot of things that *beat* >> ->working<- at home in your living room, which suggests that you're >> doing well over 40 hours/week. Been there, done that, actually

Re: [CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent?

2011-11-16 Thread Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of Phoenix, Merka > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 18:48 > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent? > > -Original Message- >

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 05:39:28AM -0800, Drew wrote: > > Agreed! The cramped screen space (I run dual vid cards in sli with 4 > > monitors with development apps spread all over them!), sluggish response > > (open what I have running on my work station and any laptop goes into > > crawl mode), hea

[CentOS] lm_sensors on Sun (x86) Hardware

2011-11-16 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks, I'm running RHEL 5.3 on 6 boxes - and on every one of them sensors-detect finds nothing. 5 of them are Sun fire 2250 machines, and 1 is Sunfire 4170. Googling and searching this list does not seem to find anything. When I log into the Sun hardware management interface (web interface)

Re: [CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent?

2011-11-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane wrote: > I have been seeing something for quite some time which has confused me > considerably for over a year, perhaps one of you can help me understand. > > Assumed: rpm queries are against _a_ database. > Assumed: da

Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors on Sun (x86) Hardware

2011-11-16 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Alan McKay wrote: > Hey folks, > > I'm running RHEL 5.3 on 6 boxes - and on every one of them > sensors-detect finds nothing. > > 5 of them are Sun fire 2250 machines, and 1 is Sunfire 4170. > > Googling and searching this list does not seem to find anything. > > When I log in

Re: [CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent?

2011-11-16 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Akemi Yagi wrote: > What you are seeing is indeed odd. I see 'version 3.1' but not '3.2' > anywhere on the Summary line of bash. What is your kernel by the way? > uname -mr ? > > Have you cleared yum cache? Not just running a 'yum clean all' but > emptying the /var/cache/yum d

Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors on Sun (x86) Hardware

2011-11-16 Thread Alan McKay
> Definitely running an out of date OS won't help.  Updating the kernel to > current fixed a similar problem I'd had with no usable sensors being detected. Yeah, I'd really like to do that - but I've only been here a week now and don't understand these systems well enough yet to know whether or no

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread John Hinton
On 11/16/2011 6:36 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > >>> What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the >>> internet? I'd guess it is already over 50%. >> Not over 50%, but 5,5%, according to this source: >> http://www.netmarketshare.com/ > > I may have exaggerate

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 16 November 2011 14:02, John R. Dennison wrote: > So not only does the overall SNR leave, well, everything to be desired > but not we are tolerating this type of language? Good job - you've > made an already useless list that much worse. You rule. As much as I detest people who do this

Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors on Sun (x86) Hardware

2011-11-16 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Alan McKay wrote: Definitely running an out of date OS won't help.  Updating the kernel to current fixed a similar problem I'd had with no usable sensors being detected. Yeah, I'd really like to do that - but I've only been here a week now and don't understand these system

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: > On 16 November 2011 14:02, John R. Dennison wrote: > >> So not only does the overall SNR leave, well, everything to be desired >> but not we are tolerating this type of language?  Good job - you've >> made an already useless

Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors on Sun (x86) Hardware

2011-11-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/16/11 6:37 AM, Alan McKay wrote: > When I log into the Sun hardware management interface (web interface) > I see that it of course is correctly detecting various temperatures of > things. But for some reason Linux is not. you may need to use ipmitools rather than lm_sensors. -- john r p

[CentOS] Difference in gnome between centos <> fedora

2011-11-16 Thread Andreas Reschke
Hello, I've on my home PC CentOS 6 and Fedora 13 on different disks. When I log on the gnome enviroment at Fedora knows exactly which programm was started at which desktop (for example: thunderbird on desktop 1, firefox on desktop 2, nautilus on desktop 3, ..). The same procedure on Centos takes

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/16/2011 05:59 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Rushton Martin wrote: > >> Only that with fixed point releases you set aside a day or so to >> download, burn, transport and load. You wouldn't want to be doing that >> daily on the off chance that something relevant has been adde

Re: [CentOS] Difference in gnome between centos <> fedora

2011-11-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/16/2011 04:24 PM, Andreas Reschke piše: > Hello, > I've on my home PC CentOS 6 and Fedora 13 on different disks. When I log > on the gnome enviroment at Fedora knows exactly which programm was started > at which desktop (for example: thunderbird on desktop 1, firefox on > desktop 2, nauti

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/16/2011 04:18 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan piše: > Centos has much larger installed base than "upstream provider". Internet facing systems (market share of web servers) and Install base are not the same thing. MANY RHEL installations never ever see "the light of day", so Not true. Al

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > The point I think john is trying to make is that you can also just put > the updates and CR repos on a DVD (it might not fit) or usb hard drive / > key (better idea as this can hold several GB). > > Then you can put that on the network an

Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors on Sun (x86) Hardware

2011-11-16 Thread Ned Slider
On 16/11/11 14:37, Alan McKay wrote: > Hey folks, > > I'm running RHEL 5.3 on 6 boxes - and on every one of them > sensors-detect finds nothing. > What did Red Hat say? > 5 of them are Sun fire 2250 machines, and 1 is Sunfire 4170. > > Googling and searching this list does not seem to find anythi

Re: [CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent?

2011-11-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:56 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Akemi Yagi wrote: > >> What you are seeing is indeed odd. I see 'version 3.1' but not '3.2' >> anywhere on the Summary line of bash. What is your kernel by the way? >> uname -mr ? >> >> Have you cleared yum cache? Not just

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/16/2011 05:13 PM, Les Mikesell piše: > Is there a scripted approach to this that will always get a consistent > snapshot copy even if you run it while updates are being added in the > repositories? Waiting for a new DVD spin avoids that issue. Rsync/mrepo can keep downloaded packages c

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 16 Nov 2011, at 15:19, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > hmm... "Strom over a teacup" My reply concerned the huge amount of drivel being posted to this list. The topic is supposedly CentOS - not "stressed sysadmins sounding off". Simples really. Ben Sent from my iPhone __

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/16/2011 10:13 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> >> The point I think john is trying to make is that you can also just put >> the updates and CR repos on a DVD (it might not fit) or usb hard drive / >> key (better idea as this can hold several

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/16/11 9:15 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > When we update the mirrors on mirror.centos.org ... we put the packages > on first, then the metadata. if I'm updating my own mirrors with lftp, what files should I postpone til last ? -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cr

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Rob Kampen
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Vreme: 11/16/2011 07:55 AM, Christopher Chan piše: On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:30 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:14 PM, Rob Kampen piše: run a virtualbox with windoze XP for a realtor app that only works on IE (yeah, go figur

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/16/2011 11:19 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/16/11 9:15 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> When we update the mirrors on mirror.centos.org ... we put the packages >> on first, then the metadata. > > if I'm updating my own mirrors with lftp, what files should I postpone > til last ? > > > I wo

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > >>> The point I think john is trying to make is that you can also just put >>> the updates and CR repos on a DVD (it might not fit) or usb hard drive / >>> key (better idea as this can hold several GB). >>> >>> Then you can put that on the

Re: [CentOS] UC UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/16/2011 11:40 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >> The point I think john is trying to make is that you can also just put the updates and CR repos on a DVD (it might not fit) or usb hard drive / key (better idea as this can hol

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:20:55 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > ---Executing: recode > Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > Vreme: 11/16/2011 07:55 AM, Christopher Chan pise: > > > >> On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:30 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> > >>> Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:14 PM

Re: [CentOS] UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Nataraj
On 11/16/2011 02:21 AM, Rushton Martin wrote: > One exception is those machines behind a firewall that does not allow > downloads. The only upgrade path then is to download on another machine > and burn DVDs. CR repos are not helpful in such a case! Unfortunately, I don't know of any distros that

Re: [CentOS] UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 16.11.2011 um 19:07 schrieb Nataraj: > On 11/16/2011 02:21 AM, Rushton Martin wrote: >> One exception is those machines behind a firewall that does not allow >> downloads. The only upgrade path then is to download on another machine >> and burn DVDs. CR repos are not helpful in such a case!

Re: [CentOS] vertify which software for missing dependenies

2011-11-16 Thread Benjamin Hackl
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:45:50 -0800 Edward Martinez wrote: > I executed on the command line of centos 6 "rpm -q glibc" and > "rpm -q atk" after i installed adobe reader, and the output of both > were : #rpm -q glibc > glibc-2.12-1.25.el6_1.3.x86_64 > glibc-2.12-1.25.el6-1.3.i6

Re: [CentOS] UC What happened to 6.1

2011-11-16 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Nataraj wrote: > Unfortunately, I don't know of any distros that cater to anyone with > that level of security requirement anymore (or even someone who just > didn't have an Internet connection). There used to be distros where you > could receive updates monthly on a CDROM.

[CentOS] Where is source address info of a route kept?

2011-11-16 Thread Dale Dellutri
I have an ethernet device in my lan with a primary address 192.168.5.205 and a secondary address .217. I added the secondary address after network startup established the primary address by an ip addr add command: # ip addr add 192.168.5.217/24 broadcast 192.168.5.255 dev eth0 # ip addr show ...

Re: [CentOS] Where is source address info of a route kept?

2011-11-16 Thread Mike Burger
> I have an ethernet device in my lan with a primary address 192.168.5.205 > and a secondary address .217. I added the secondary address after network > startup established the primary address by an ip addr add command: > > # ip addr add 192.168.5.217/24 broadcast 192.168.5.255 dev eth0 > > # ip a

Re: [CentOS] Where is source address info of a route kept?

2011-11-16 Thread Marcelo Beckmann
Em 16-11-2011 17:48, Dale Dellutri escreveu: > I have an ethernet device in my lan with a primary address 192.168.5.205 > and a secondary address .217. I added the secondary address after network > startup established the primary address by an ip addr add command: > > # ip addr add 192.168.5.217/2

[CentOS] not using LVM for Linux VM guests?

2011-11-16 Thread Smithies, Russell
I came across an old post comment yesterday (from http://echenh.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-extend-lvm-on-vmware-guest-os.html ) discussing the "hack" of LVM on Linux VM guests and whether it's better not to use it to simplify disk management. I've re-posted the comment below, does it sound reas

Re: [CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent?

2011-11-16 Thread Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of Akemi Yagi > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:20 > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent? > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:56 AM

Re: [CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent?

2011-11-16 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane wrote: > > At one time (in the mists of history, probably around RHEL 1|2) I > thought there was a daily rpm cleanup task, but I can't find it on Cent > 5 systems. there is something in /etc/rc.sysinit, so it would happen on reboot: $ grep rpm /etc/rc.

Re: [CentOS] not using LVM for Linux VM guests?

2011-11-16 Thread James A. Peltier
We use who disk LVM on our VMs. No partitioning except for the root disk which is separate for all our VMs. Since for us the root disks are largely static and all other components are on the full disk LVM volumes growing them doesn't require a reboot at all. Just rescan the scsi bus and resiz

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > If no smartphones gets broken and/or replaced, they could reach number > of PC users (50%) in one year. Realistically it will take them 2-3 years > to reach those numbers. > > BUT, I have 2 phones (one of them is Android), 1 desktop PC and 1 > laptop. And 95-97% of in

Re: [CentOS] the majority will NEVER use smartphones

2011-11-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2011 01:42, schrieb Timothy Murphy: > Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> If no smartphones gets broken and/or replaced, they could reach number >> of PC users (50%) in one year. Realistically it will take them 2-3 years >> to reach those numbers. >> >> BUT, I have 2 phones (one of them is

Re: [CentOS] [FIXED] Centos 5.7--desktop icons are now a blank sheet of paper with the .desktop filename and they don't work

2011-11-16 Thread fred smith
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 08:45:48PM -0500, fred smith wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:22:32AM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:25 AM, fred smith piše: > > > > > note that the Desktop folder contains a subdirectory named "radio > > > stations", > > > and that its repre

Re: [CentOS] the majority will NEVER use smartphones

2011-11-16 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 02:03:58AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.11.2011 01:42, schrieb Timothy Murphy: > > Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > > >> If no smartphones gets broken and/or replaced, they could reach number > >> of PC users (50%) in one year. Realistically it will take them 2-3

Re: [CentOS] the majority will NEVER use smartphones

2011-11-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2011 02:32, schrieb fred smith: > Well, I'm happy with my "stupid phone". I don't especially want a > pocket-sized computer (at least not one that's tightly chained inside > a walled garden, whether it be Apple's, or Microsoft's, or any one > else's garden). As long as it reliably makes

Re: [CentOS] the majority will NEVER use smartphones

2011-11-16 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 02:38 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 17.11.2011 02:32, schrieb fred smith: > > Well, I'm happy with my "stupid phone". I don't especially want a > > pocket-sized computer (at least not one that's tightly chained inside > > a walled garden, whether it be Apple's, or Micros

[CentOS] Squid 3 with SSL Bump on Centos 5.7

2011-11-16 Thread Fawzy Ibrhim
I have Centos 5.7 AMD64; is there a way to have Squid 3 with SSLBump feature in Centos 5.7? I appreciate any help on that? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos