Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.7--desktop icons are now a blank sheet of paper with the .desktop filename and they don't work

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:25 AM, fred smith piše: > note that the Desktop folder contains a subdirectory named "radio stations", > and that its representation on the desktop looks correct. but when I click > on it to open up that folder, all its contents are also broken in the > same way. > > Anybody g

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:56 AM, Alan McKay piše: >> Both CentOS and Scientific Linux *aim* at 100% binary compatibility >> and they are both doing their best toward that goal. However, neither >> is perfect. > > That's interesting. So how is it they've managed to come out with 6.1 > (and so long ago a

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Currently, CentOS build system should be in much better shape and we > will see how it will do for coming 6.2 point release (already in beta). Thanks very much for that. I found your account most interesting and informative. I guess one question that I've never seen

Re: [CentOS] bond of bonds

2011-11-15 Thread Fred Wittekind
On 11/14/2011 3:15 PM, Paras pradhan wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to use Link-aggregation with redundancy between switches > that doesnot support SMLT in switches. > > > I have 4 network ports. First two are connected to a switch and > LACP/LAG is enabled. Third and Fourth ports connect to another

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/15/2011 01:56 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> Currently, CentOS build system should be in much better shape and we >> will see how it will do for coming 6.2 point release (already in beta). > > Thanks very much for that. > I found your account most interesting and

Re: [CentOS] bond of bonds

2011-11-15 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 15 November 2011 13:08, Fred Wittekind wrote: > You can bridge two bonds together, and enable STP to prevent a loop. > Although, don't get it wrong on a production network, it's not pretty. Use decent switches, interlink them and create one big LACP bond across both. Ben ___

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > Fedora is basically an incubator for new technologies and as such not > really an attractive system to install for end-users. If you deal with > servers you probably go with CentOS, SL, Debian, etc. and if you want a > desktop you probably use Ubuntu. I don't really

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Timothy Murphy: > But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? this is what some braindead developers seems to think but it is not true nor will it never get true! why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if i can have a Core i7 Quad combined w

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Steve Clark
On 11/15/2011 09:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Timothy Murphy: >> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? > this is what some braindead developers seems to think > but it is not true nor will it never get true! > > why in the world should i use a laptop

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 11/15/2011 01:56 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> I saw statistics - I don't remember where - saying that >> CentOS had 30% of the Linux market, which I found very surprising, Wow! >> though also satsifying (to me). SL had a tiny share.

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
Reindl Harald wrote: >> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? > > this is what some braindead developers seems to think > but it is not true nor will it never get true! > > why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if > i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much mo

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Timothy Murphy wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? >> >> this is what some braindead developers seems to think >> but it is not true nor will it never get true! >> >> why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if >> i can have a Core

[CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Johan Vermeulen
dear all, I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast, even on al 512Mb machine. But I don't have any clue how to make a usb automount on this. Anybody can help me with this? greetings, James -- Johan Vermeulen IT-medewerker Caw De Kempen johan.vermeu...@cawdekempe

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 11/15/2011 06:52 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet? > I'd guess it is already over 50%. > Mobile devices still have *under* 6% of the internet browser market. See http://www.netmarketshare.com/ -- Benjamin Franz

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Rob Kampen
Timothy Murphy wrote: Reindl Harald wrote: But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? this is what some braindead developers seems to think but it is not true nor will it never get true! why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if i can have a Core i7 Quad c

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 01:56 PM, Timothy Murphy piše: > Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> Currently, CentOS build system should be in much better shape and we >> will see how it will do for coming 6.2 point release (already in beta). > > Thanks very much for that. > I found your account most interesting a

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Steve Thompson
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? >> >> this is what some braindead developers seems to think >> but it is not true nor will it never get true! >> >> why in the world should i use a laptop in my office i

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:52 PM, Timothy Murphy piše: > Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? >> >> this is what some braindead developers seems to think >> but it is not true nor will it never get true! >> >> why in the world should i use a laptop in my off

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Johan Vermeulen
Op 15-11-11 16:11, Johan Vermeulen schreef: > dear all, > > I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast, > even on al 512Mb machine. > > But I don't have any clue how to make a usb automount on this. > > Anybody can help me with this? > > greetings, James > answering my

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:14 PM, Rob Kampen piše: > run a virtualbox with windoze XP for a realtor app that only works on IE > (yeah, go figure, we are in 2011 and they force everyone to use IE) Install PlayOnLinux (Wine installer) and install IE6 inside it. Maybe your App will work without virtual Wi

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us piše: > The "preupgrade" is what I've been using the last year, and why I'm now > building boxes here with 500M instead of 100M root partitions, figuring > that it's what's coming for CentOS, eventually. +1 -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air)

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:11 PM, Johan Vermeulen piše: > dear all, > > I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast, > even on al 512Mb machine. > > But I don't have any clue how to make a usb automount on this. > > Anybody can help me with this? > > greetings, James > I think

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread John Hinton
On 11/15/2011 9:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Timothy Murphy: >> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? > this is what some braindead developers seems to think > but it is not true nor will it never get true! > > why in the world should i use a laptop

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:11 PM, Johan Vermeulen piše: >> dear all, >> >> I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast, >> even on al 512Mb machine. >> >> But I don't have any clue how to make a usb automount on this. >> >> Anybody can help me with

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
Benjamin Franz wrote: >> What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet? >> I'd guess it is already over 50%. >> > > Mobile devices still have *under* 6% of the internet browser market. > > See http://www.netmarketshare.com/ I find it very hard to believe that 90% of Chin

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 04:29:08PM +0100, Johan Vermeulen wrote: > Op 15-11-11 16:11, Johan Vermeulen schreef: > > dear all, > > > > I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast, > > even on al 512Mb machine. > > > > But I don't have any clue how to make a usb automount o

Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Silva
on 11/14/2011 5:38 PM Jonathan Nilsson spake the following: >> Nice mail database... > > > apparently the mail client has some "nice" features too: > >> on 11/14/2011 4:09 PM Scott Silva spake the following: >> >>> on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following: >> > > wouldst thou

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:50 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu piše: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 04:29:08PM +0100, Johan Vermeulen wrote: > >> Op 15-11-11 16:11, Johan Vermeulen schreef: >>> dear all, >>> >>> I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast, >>> even on al 512Mb machine. >>> >>

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Incidentally, I don't really understand > what is meant by the term "desktop" nowadays. > I always think of it as a contrast to laptop. 'Desktop' is in contrast to 'server'. On a server, you only reboot to load a new kernel and you never

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? I don't. > > Don't you think you are in a very small minority, > like 1% of the world? I live in India. hmm... I am one of the 1/6th of the p

[CentOS] Centos6 and samba and nmblookup

2011-11-15 Thread david
Folks I've installed Centos6 and Samba. I noticed that the program "nmblookup" and a few other Samba related programs, documented in the RHEL6 guide, are not included in Centos6. A search using YUM also did not find "nmblookup", using the repositories: base, centosplus, contrib, cr, epel, ext

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 and samba and nmblookup

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, david wrote: > Folks > > I've installed Centos6 and Samba. I noticed that the program > "nmblookup" and a few other Samba related programs, documented in the > RHEL6 guide, are not included in Centos6. A search using YUM also > did not find "nmblookup", using the repositorie

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Timothy Murphy > wrote: >> >> Incidentally, I don't really understand >> what is meant by the term "desktop" nowadays. >> I always think of it as a contrast to laptop. > > 'Desktop' is in contrast to 'server'. On a server, you only reboot to

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Timothy Murphy > wrote: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >> Don't you think you are in a very small minority, >> like 1% of the world? > > I live in India. > > hmm... I am one of the 1/6th of the population in the world and "I > don't own a

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:11 PM, Johan Vermeulen piše: dear all, I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast, even on al 512Mb machine. But I don't have any clue how to make a usb automount on this.

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/15/2011 04:31 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us piše: >> The "preupgrade" is what I've been using the last year, and why I'm now >> building boxes here with 500M instead of 100M root partitions, figuring >> that it's what's coming for CentOS, eventu

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? > > I don't. > >> >> Don't you think you are in a very small minority, >> like 1% of the world? > > I live in India. > > hmm... I am one of the 1/6th of the population in th

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
John Hodrien wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:11 PM, Johan Vermeulen piše: I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast,even on al 512Mb machine. But I don't have any clue

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/15/2011 02:56 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > >> Fedora is basically an incubator for new technologies and as such not >> really an attractive system to install for end-users. If you deal with >> servers you probably go with CentOS, SL, Debian, etc. and if you want

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 11/15/2011 04:31 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us piše: >>> The "preupgrade" is what I've been using the last year, and why I'm now >>> building boxes here with 500M instead of 100M root partitions, figuring >>> that it

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Chris Geldenhuis
Steve Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > >> Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? >>> this is what some braindead developers seems to think >>> but it is not true nor will it never get true! >>> >

Re: [CentOS] bond of bonds

2011-11-15 Thread Paras pradhan
What about BASP? Anyone using it ? ftp://ftp.dell.com/app/1q03-Bhu.pdf Paras. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: > On 15 November 2011 13:08, Fred Wittekind wrote: > >> You can bridge two bonds together, and enable STP to prevent a loop. >> Although, don't get it wrong

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/15/2011 05:23 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Timothy Murphy >> wrote: >>> >>> Incidentally, I don't really understand >>> what is meant by the term "desktop" nowadays. >>> I always think of it as a contrast to laptop. >> >> 'Desktop' is i

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:23 AM, wrote: >> >> 'Desktop' is in contrast to 'server'.  On a server, you only reboot to >> load a new kernel and you never use the console display, rarely change > > Oh, I dunno - it's not infrequently that I have to plug in a > monitor-on-a-stick You only need

[CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Tim Nelson
Greetings- Is it possible to mount multiple block devices (or network devices over NFS/CIFS) such that the contents of the mounts appear in one location? For example, lets say I have these shares available: \\server1\volume1\ \\server1\volume2\ \\server1\volume3\ All three contain a directory

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 and samba and nmblookup

2011-11-15 Thread david
At 08:21 AM 11/15/2011, you wrote: >On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, david wrote: > > > Folks > > > > I've installed Centos6 and Samba. I noticed that the program > > "nmblookup" and a few other Samba related programs, documented in the > > RHEL6 guide, are not included in Centos6. A search using YUM also >

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 11/15/2011 05:23 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Les Mikesell wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Timothy Murphy >>> wrote: Incidentally, I don't really understand what is meant by the term "desktop" nowadays. I always think of it as a co

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:23 AM, wrote: >> I don't agree with that. Some people do want to keep running what they >> know, and if the budget's tight > > Then you probably don't run Fedora - the 'desktop' oriented > distribution, or care much for the non-backwards compa

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/15/2011 05:40 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: >> On 11/15/2011 04:31 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us piše: The "preupgrade" is what I've been using the last year, and why I'm now building boxes here with 500M

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > But the autofs package contains automount, and that is what handles USB > drives, etc. Seriously, this isn't the case with the normal gnome automounting of usb devices. I've just tried uninstalling autofs and it merrily continues working. I've not

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Chris Geldenhuis wrote: > Steve Thompson wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> >> >>> Reindl Harald wrote: I have not understood / udder- stood (It should have spelled "understood", but it is a deliberate hack on that word ;) )

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2011 15:52, schrieb Timothy Murphy: > Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use? >> >> this is what some braindead developers seems to think >> but it is not true nor will it never get true! >> >> why in the world should i use a laptop in my offi

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:57 AM, wrote: > >>> I don't agree with that. Some people do want to keep running what they >>> know, and if the budget's tight >> >> Then you probably don't run Fedora - the 'desktop' oriented >> distribution, or care much for the non-backwards compatible changes >>

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/15/2011 05:55 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: >> On 11/15/2011 05:23 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Les Mikesell wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Incidentally, I don't really understand > what is meant by the t

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: In the US, being dedicated to one's family means, among other things, that you will buy them electronic devices. My wife doesn't even have an iPod yet, does that make me a bad person? ;) I'd say: In the UK, being dedicated to one's family means, amon

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 05:44 PM, Tim Nelson piše: > > However, it is possible to mount all of the shares to one location, such that > there is one 'data' dir, with the combined contents of each of the three > shares? So, all shares are mounted at /mnt/s1, and the contents of the > multiple data dirs

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Tim Nelson
- Original Message - > Vreme: 11/15/2011 05:44 PM, Tim Nelson piše: > > > > However, it is possible to mount all of the shares to one location, > > such that there is one 'data' dir, with the combined contents of > > each of the three shares? So, all shares are mounted at /mnt/s1, and > > t

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > Obviously if you don't have IPMI on some systems or cannot use it for other > reasons then that's tragic but inevitable. All I'm saying is that for new > system you should strongly consider it. Back in the days you actually > needed to buy an add

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:17 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > >> In the US, being dedicated to one's family means, among other things, >> that you will buy them electronic devices. > > My wife doesn't even have an iPod yet, does that make me a bad person?  ;) Only if she likes music and you don't sing

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 05:59 PM, John Hodrien piše: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> But the autofs package contains automount, and that is what handles USB >> drives, etc. > > Seriously, this isn't the case with the normal gnome automounting of usb > devices. I've just tried uninsta

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tim Nelson wrote: > I'm already doing this. It "works", but is quite messy. I had hoped there > would be an actual filesystem merging function that would do this > automagically. Presumably it's be easy enough to knock up with fuse, but there'd be a small performance hit comp

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Tim Nelson
- Original Message - > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tim Nelson wrote: > > > I'm already doing this. It "works", but is quite messy. I had hoped > > there > > would be an actual filesystem merging function that would do this > > automagically. > > Presumably it's be easy enough to knock up with fu

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 06:06 PM, Reindl Harald piše: > from where is the dumb assumption that There is no need for that. Mailing lists are for discussing, forums are for insulting and flame wars :D -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan > wrote: > Laptops are very much entertainment and educational devices. Things > useful at home even if you aren't interested in technology for its own > sake or using it f

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tim Nelson wrote: > - Original Message - >> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tim Nelson wrote: >> >>> I'm already doing this. It "works", but is quite messy. I had hoped >>> there >>> would be an actual filesystem merging function that would do this >>> automagically. >> >> Presum

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 05:43 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn piše: > Supermicro boards come with IPMI on-board these days so you can do all that > work that you previously did standing next to the server from the confines > of your cozy home. This is even more useful when you server is sitting in a > rack in

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:57 AM, wrote: >> I don't agree with that. Some people do want to keep running what they know, and if the budget's tight >>> >>> Then you probably don't run Fedora - the 'desktop' oriented >>> distribution, or care much for the non-bac

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 05:58 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn piše: > With an upgrade path between major versions Red Hat will become responsible > for that and I'm not sure they are willing to bear that burden for all the > possible various installations out there. I do not think they will, but 500MB boot pa

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 11/15/2011 05:55 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: >>> On 11/15/2011 05:23 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Timothy Murphy > wrote: >> > 'Desktop' is in contrast to 'se

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:17 AM, John Hodrien > wrote: >> >> I'd say: >> >> In the UK, being dedicated to one's family means, among other things, >> finding ways to avoid buying most electronic devices. > > It just got worse here with the Kindle fire release. Aside from be

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Tim Nelson
- Original Message - > > Anything of interest here? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS > YES, very interesting. This looks "on paper" at least to be what I'm looking for. Thanks for the pointer! --Tim ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@ce

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Johan Vermeulen wrote: > dear all, > > I configured Xfce on an Centos6 minimal install, I think its very fast, > even on al 512Mb machine. > > But I don't have any clue how to make a usb automount on this. > > Anybody can help me with this? I haven't installed xfce on C6 yet, and a rapid search su

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/15/11 6:52 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet? > I'd guess it is already over 50%. to state the obvious, 50% of people are below average. mcdonalds sells more hamburgers than (pick-your-favorite-chophouse) sells steaks. theref

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 06:39 PM, John Hodrien piše: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tim Nelson wrote: > >> - Original Message - >>> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tim Nelson wrote: >>> I'm already doing this. It "works", but is quite messy. I had hoped there would be an actual filesystem merging fun

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/15/11 7:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > What about all those girls tweeting on the bus to school? twitter is for twits. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailin

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 07:03 PM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg piše: > So I don't know where you got it from, and how it's packaged. It's in EPEL. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google is the Father, and traceroute is your trusty Spiderman... St

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:27 PM, wrote: > Why don't you call your Congresscritter and Senator, and tell them you > personally want to donate > the money to replace everything we have that doesn't have IPMI, and pay > for the time install and cable it all up? That would be *great*...

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 07:04 PM, John R Pierce piše: > On 11/15/11 6:52 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet? >> I'd guess it is already over 50%. > > to state the obvious, 50% of people are below average. http://www.internetworldstats.com/s

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:00 PM, wrote: >>> In the UK, being dedicated to one's family means, among other things, >>> finding ways to avoid buying most electronic devices. >> >> It just got worse here with the Kindle fire release.  Aside from being >> a nice toy it will have an account attached

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Marcio Carneiro
Make centos a new distro and forget about rh 2011/11/14 Alan McKay > These seems to me to be the first message in the series and provides a > really good summary of the changes at Red Hat which seem to be making > life a lot more difficult for CentOS. > > Just figured I'd pull it out of that thr

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 - Xfce - howto add usb automount

2011-11-15 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Vreme: 11/15/2011 07:03 PM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg piše: >> So I don't know where you got it from, and how it's packaged. > > It's in EPEL. ah yes, and I see they carry a thunar-volman package. OP, install that and you should be good. _

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, wrote: > >>> Hell, no, I don't run fedora. I've got three or four users, and my >>> manager on one of his systems, who do. I *LOATHE* it, with all the >>> grief upgrades have given me. >> >> And, correspondingly, you probably don't really run any 'desktop' >> app

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:00 PM,   wrote: >> And $200 for a >> book reader? > > That's a fantastic price for a color tablet - they are almost > certainly losing money on it. > Dear Les, Look at Per capita monthly income of other

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/15/11 10:30 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > And do you think anybody would buy that when they have a family to support? thats not amazon's target demographic, anyways. whats your point? by that argument, noone should be selling cars. stereos. TV sets. etc etc etc. -- john r p

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Silva
on 11/15/2011 9:22 AM Tim Nelson spake the following: > - Original Message - >> Vreme: 11/15/2011 05:44 PM, Tim Nelson piše: >>> >>> However, it is possible to mount all of the shares to one location, >>> such that there is one 'data' dir, with the combined contents of >>> each of the thre

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 15 Nov 2011, at 18:33, John R Pierce wrote: > thats not amazon's target demographic, anyways. whats your point? Here we go again. What does any of this have to do with CentOS, the topic of this list? Does every thread have to degenerate into bickering? If only my iPhone supported kill lis

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 11/15/2011 01:05 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Vreme: 11/15/2011 06:39 PM, John Hodrien piše: >> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tim Nelson wrote: >> >>> - Original Message - On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Tim Nelson wrote: > I'm already doing this. It "works", but is quite messy. I had hope

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Scott Silva wrote: > In Microsoft terms that sounds like Distributed file system. I think you can > do that under samba... Is that the same? I thought DFS was just about effectively having cross server symlinks so that one folder could be on one server and another on another

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > >>> And $200 for a >>> book reader? >> >> That's a fantastic price for a color tablet - they are almost >> certainly losing money on it. >> > > Dear Les, Look at Per capita monthly income of other countries: less > that USD 100. Ave

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS

2011-11-15 Thread Craig White
On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > >> or don't you remember them deleting 1984? > > That wasn't censorship, it was correcting an error with appropriate > refunds. I don't think they are particularly evil or controlling, > just very

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (WHOA)

2011-11-15 Thread david
Hasn't this discussion drifted from the initial topic? I'm sure the price of tablets, of phone service, etc., are interesting to some, but PULEEZZE, look at the topic and ask "is the message contributing to the understanding of changes at RedHat confounding CentOS" David _

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (WHOA)

2011-11-15 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:39:12AM -0800, david wrote: > Hasn't this discussion drifted from the initial topic? Until various repeat offenders on this list are moderated or otherwise dealt with this nonsense is going to keep on happening. I wonder if their employers are aware of the time spent on

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread Scott Silva
on 11/15/2011 10:48 AM John Hodrien spake the following: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Scott Silva wrote: > >> In Microsoft terms that sounds like Distributed file system. I think you can >> do that under samba... > > Is that the same? I thought DFS was just about effectively having cross > server symlin

Re: [CentOS] "Overlay" Filesystem Mounts?

2011-11-15 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Scott Silva wrote: > I suppose it would have to be more like disparate subfolders shared under one > root... In which case it might as well just be a bunch of symlinks, and that's fairly easy to automatically maintain. jh ___ CentO

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (WHOA)

2011-11-15 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 15 Nov 2011, at 20:10, "John R. Dennison" wrote: > Until various repeat offenders on this list are moderated or otherwise > dealt with this nonsense is going to keep on happening. The signal to noise ratio has always been pretty low on this list but lately it has become so unbearable I'm serio

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Craig White
On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Alan McKay wrote: >> Both CentOS and Scientific Linux *aim* at 100% binary compatibility >> and they are both doing their best toward that goal. However, neither >> is perfect. > > That's interesting. So how is it they've managed to come out with 6.1 > (and so long

[CentOS] pgadmin3 missing dependencies

2011-11-15 Thread Alan McKay
I searched the list archives and I found one answer to this which suggested I should install the PG yum repos. I don't like that answer for reasons which follow. I'm running Centos 6.0 freshly installed, and I've decided that with this box I'm sticking as much as possible to just the CentOS repo

Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Craig White wrote: > > On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Alan McKay wrote: > >>> Both CentOS and Scientific Linux *aim* at 100% binary compatibility >>> and they are both doing their best toward that goal. However, neither >>> is perfect. >> >> That's interesting.  So h

Re: [CentOS] pgadmin3 missing dependencies

2011-11-15 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/15/11 12:46 PM, Alan McKay wrote: > [root@cc-bc4d99dffae2 ~]# rpm --install pgadmin3-1.12.2-1.rhel6.i686.rpm > warning: pgadmin3-1.12.2-1.rhel6.i686.rpm: Header V4 DSA/SHA1 > Signature, key ID 442df0f8: NOKEY > error: Failed dependencies: > libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 is needed by pgadmin3-1.1

[CentOS] How can rpm "%{SUMMARY}" not be consistent?

2011-11-15 Thread Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane
I have been seeing something for quite some time which has confused me considerably for over a year, perhaps one of you can help me understand. Assumed: rpm queries are against _a_ database. Assumed: database queries against the same database, without changes to the data in the database, will retu

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