Just to throw out the background on the thread...
It was started questioning whether redhat is going to actively try and
make it harder over time to
clone it, thus making any derivatives of it untenable.
I tried ubuntu and that is what this sub thread is about.
I tried ubuntu from the standpoin
On 11/10/2011 07:40 PM, Craig White wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:30 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 10, 2011 02:20:25 PM Bob Hoffman wrote:
>>> The newer stuff is cool, but it lacks the polish of a ready to go
>>> system. Centos has the polish, but lacks the new stuff.
>>> s
On 11/10/2011 07:05 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> James A. Peltier wrote:
>
>> Fedora 16 moved to GRUB 2 as well. It will be in RHEL/CentOS in the next
>> release. Get used to it. ;)
> Grub2 really seems extraordinarily verbose.
> One can't help wondering if the simplicity of the old grub
> offende
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 01:05 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> James A. Peltier wrote:
>
> > Fedora 16 moved to GRUB 2 as well. It will be in RHEL/CentOS in the next
> > release. Get used to it. ;)
>
> Grub2 really seems extraordinarily verbose.
> One can't help wondering if the simplicity of the o
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Craig White wrote:
> grub2 has more utility (ie can boot of the newer fs types like ext4) and
> thus was inevitable.
grub in EL6 can boot of ext4, and that's grub-0.97-68.el6.x86_64.
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Am 11.11.2011 13:38, schrieb Craig White:
> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 01:05 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> James A. Peltier wrote:
>>
>>> Fedora 16 moved to GRUB 2 as well. It will be in RHEL/CentOS in the next
>>> release. Get used to it. ;)
>>
>> Grub2 really seems extraordinarily verbose.
>> On
I want to confirm that the solution posed by René re installing kmod-fglrx from
elRepo also works well for HP Proliant servers (in my case DL360 G6) with ATI
gfx to restore the text boot progress display and virtual terminals. Kudos for
ending a long and maddening search for a fix.
ref: https
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Reindl Harald wrote:
> so tell me why i do not need GRUB2 for this more than a year?
>
> 2.6.40.8-4.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 1 18:17:12 UTC 2011
>
> /dev/md1 ext4 29G 8,0G 21G 28% /
> /dev/md0 ext4485M 52M 429M 11% /boot
> /dev/md2 ext43,6T
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 04:20 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 11/10/2011 07:40 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:30 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote:
> >> On Thursday, November 10, 2011 02:20:25 PM Bob Hoffman wrote:
> >>> The newer stuff is cool, but it lacks the polish of a ready to go
>
Am 11.11.2011 14:01, schrieb John Hodrien:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> so tell me why i do not need GRUB2 for this more than a year?
>>
>> 2.6.40.8-4.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 1 18:17:12 UTC 2011
>>
>> /dev/md1 ext4 29G 8,0G 21G 28% /
>> /dev/md0 ext44
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
>> > been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of
>> > features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexibility and just about
>> > every other imaginable use for
Le 11/11/2011 10:39, Bob Hoffman a écrit :
> Ubuntu opened the virtual host to the entire lan, all ports, and added
> forwarding to non existent
> virtual bridge that had not been built yet.
This is simply false for Ubuntu Server. After first install, there is
simply no single port opened, even 2
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:28:26PM +0100, Alain Péan wrote:
* Diatribe on Ubuntu removed *
Seriously. This is _not_ the list for this. Readers should not have to
wade through the morass of this thread or even spend the second or so
required to thread kill it. It's off-topic. This is not an ad
On 11/11/2011 07:11 AM, Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 04:20 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 11/10/2011 07:40 PM, Craig White wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:30 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote:
On Thursday, November 10, 2011 02:20:25 PM Bob Hoffman wrote:
> The newer stuff is coo
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:45 AM, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:28:26PM +0100, Alain Péan wrote:
>
> Seriously. This is _not_ the list for this. Readers should not have to
> wade through the morass of this thread or even spend the second or so
> required to thread kill it.
Greetings,
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM, c sawyer wrote:
> I want to confirm that the solution posed by René re installing kmod-fglrx
> from elRepo also works well for HP Proliant servers (in my case DL360 G6)
> with ATI gfx to restore the text boot progress display and virtual
> terminals.
Greetings,
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM, c sawyer wrote:
>> I want to confirm that the solution posed by René re installing kmod-fglrx
>> from elRepo also works well for HP Proliant servers (in my case DL360 G6)
Greetings,
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
> wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> AFAIK, HP Website does provide drivers for RHEL on its servers.
>> Haven't checked if it is available for RHEL6 though.
>
> http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/servers/linux/hplinuxcert.html
further
ht
On 11/11/2011 08:04 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:45 AM, John R. Dennison wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:28:26PM +0100, Alain Péan wrote:
>>
>> Seriously. This is _not_ the list for this. Readers should not have to
>> wade through the morass of this thread or even spe
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Reindl Harald wrote:
> IT IS NOT BACKWARD-COMPATIBLE
> try to mount native ext4 (extent) with ext3-driver and you will see it
My bad. I thought you could mount it ro with the old driver, but I'm
definitely wrong.
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On Nov 11, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Craig White wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
>
been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of
features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexib
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
> This list is for the community to use to get and provide support for
> CentOS ... not for constant bellyaching and non stop whining. This list
> has become non usable because of the trash that it has become.
>
Are you deploying 6.x yourse
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Craig White wrote:
>
>> Have you looked at the ClearOS implementation which should come up
>> running out of the box connected to an LDAP user base?
>
> No but configuring cyrus-imapd & postfix for LDAP is trivial. In fact, once
> you get clued in to LDAP, yo
On 11/11/2011 09:50 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>
>> This list is for the community to use to get and provide support for
>> CentOS ... not for constant bellyaching and non stop whining. This list
>> has become non usable because of the trash t
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
> >>> You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP.
> >>> Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too.
> >> Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs.
> > Cyrus is sort of its own t
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:13 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > >
> > > been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of
> > > features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexibility and just about
> > > every other imaginable use for an IMAP server.
> > Hmm, I must give it a try o
Alain wrote
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Le 11/11/2011 10:39, Bob Hoffman a écrit :
>/ Ubuntu opened the virtual host to the entire lan, all ports, and added
/>/ forwarding to non existent
/>/ virtual bridge that had not been built yet.
/
This is simply false for Ubuntu Server. After first insta
Vreme: 11/11/2011 03:16 PM, Johnny Hughes piše:
> This list is for the community to use to get and provide support for
> CentOS ... not for constant bellyaching and non stop whining. This list
> has become non usable because of the trash that it has become.
>
> Starting today, I will be banning pe
Is there a list of which branches take up how much space?
I'm currently rsyncing a mirror to my laptop but I don't have a very
big HD. I"ve excluded iso and SRPMS because I do not need them, but
would like to know how much the rest is going to take up.
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:24 AM, James A. Pe
BTW, here is the mirror I am copying from, and below that is the rsync
command I am using
http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/centos/6.0/
rsync -avSHP --delete --exclude-from rsync.excl
and here is rsync.excl file :
---snip---
SRPMS/
local/
isos/
---snip---
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Alan
Oh yeah, and I am only taking the 6.0 branch - none of the previous releases.
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
> BTW, here is the mirror I am copying from, and below that is the rsync
> command I am using
>
> http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/centos/6.0/
>
> rsync -avSHP --dele
Vreme: 11/11/2011 11:08 PM, Alan McKay piše:
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
>>> Is there a list of which branches take up how much space?
>>> I'm currently rsyncing a mirror to my laptop but I don't have a very
>>> big HD. I"ve excluded iso and SRPMS because I do not need t
> First of all, please do not top post, write your replies below the
> original test (where ever possible.)
Sorry, I respectfully disagree - there are some circumstances where
top posting is more appropriate, and that was one of them -
essentially just adding a quick "p.s." to a previous message o
OK, my first 2 replies - my bad, I agree with your disapproval
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On 09/11/11 10:19 PM, Christopher Hawker wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Roughly, how much disk space would I need on my server to mirror the entire
> ISO collection and the repository files. Also, how would I tell my server to
> only mirror CentOS 5 and 6?
>
>
my mirror is using lftp rather than rsync, a
Hi,
Sorry about the top-posting, I'm replying from my blackberry.
I've been following this thread for a while and really don't see why people
respond so rabidly to criticism. If something bothers/bores me about a thread I
just Ignore the thread/user. If no one is interested the thread dies out
Hi,
Sorry about the top-posting, I'm replying from my blackberry.
I've been following this thread for a while and really don't see why people
respond so rabidly to criticism. If something bothers/bores me about a thread I
just Ignore the thread/user. If no one is interested the thread dies out
On 11/10/2011 05:44 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote:
> I went ahead and downloaded the 5 year supported version of ubuntu server.
> You think centos/redhat is a bit tough or not polished?
> One day with ubuntu server and you will look at centos install and setup
> as a god!
>
I'm assuming your refering to u
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