Re: [CentOS] Power-outage

2011-07-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/04/11 11:44 PM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > Otherwise, the single large UPS becomes the single point of failure. the good big ones are fully redundant and every component is hot swappable. but yeah, distributed UPS the way google did it is rather sweet. As long as part of their operating

Re: [CentOS] Power-outage

2011-07-05 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 02:44:30PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: Can people at least pretend to keep this list on-topic? 89 responses for an off-topic post is a little much, don't you think? Item 3 under Guidelines as listed at: http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16

Re: [CentOS] Power-outage

2011-07-05 Thread Timothy Murphy
Steven Crothers wrote: > Hook up ethernet, if its not POE, you plug it in, attach all the various > usb cables, vga, serial, ps/2, ect ect to the server and let it hang. When > your server is unresponsive just go ahead and hit the IP you assigned to > your Spider, and you get a full console, virtu

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Charles Polisher wrote: > > If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a > journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much > less prone to unrecoverable data loss. > Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EXT4 was faster

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread John Doe
From: Mark Weaver > Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking > around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't > find one. Maybe try here: https://hardware.redhat.com/ JD ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Mark Weaver wrote: > On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: >>> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking >>> around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't >>> find one. >>> >>

Re: [CentOS] Power-outage

2011-07-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Timothy Murphy wrote: > Steven Crothers wrote: > >> Hook up ethernet, if its not POE, you plug it in, attach all the various >> usb cables, vga, serial, ps/2, ect ect to the server and let it hang. When >> your server is unresponsive just go ahead and hit the IP you assigned to >> your Spider, and

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread B.J. McClure
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 11:09 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Mark Weaver wrote: > > On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: > >>> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking > >>> around for the las

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Michael Schumacher
Mark, On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 you wrote: > Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? Check my question regarding the same question from May. 3rd this year with the subject "list of supported hardware". There is a list of certified hardware, but no list of supported hardware. I fi

Re: [CentOS] Strange symbolic link behaviour?

2011-07-05 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: > On 7/5/11, Eric B. wrote: > > The strange behaviour here is when listing the parent directory (..). > > In this case, ls .. is listing the contents of Mail/ directory - not > > /home/eric. > > > > In the past, I always recall being able

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/5/2011 5:09 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Mark Weaver wrote: >> On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking around for the last few days; even l

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/5/2011 5:33 AM, B.J. McClure wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 11:09 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Mark Weaver wrote: >>> On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: > Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread James Hogarth
>> >> If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a >> journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much >> less prone to unrecoverable data loss. > > Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EXT4 was faster than > EXT2? > The optimum on an EXT basis for a f

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Christopher Chan
On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 07:28 PM, James Hogarth wrote: >>> >>> If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a >>> journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much >>> less prone to unrecoverable data loss. >> >> Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EXT4

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/5/11 6:28 AM, James Hogarth wrote: >>> >>> If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a >>> journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much >>> less prone to unrecoverable data loss. >> >> Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EXT4 was faster than

[CentOS] HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver

2011-07-05 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi I am trying to install CentOS 5.6 on HP DL 180 G6 which has HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver. I have 4 * 500 GB SATA HDD and configured RAID 1+0 using System BIOS, the BIOS detects usable disk space as 940GB disk space, when i start installing the OS, it does not detect HP Smart

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:43:37PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: > On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: > >> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? > >> > >> I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390

Re: [CentOS] mounting a CentOS 5.5-based NFS partitions from a Mac OS X machine

2011-07-05 Thread Boris Epstein
> > Is the OS X firewall blocking nfs? > > How are you mounting the export? If you're not trying it from within > Terminal, does it work from within it? > __ The OS X firewall dos not appear to be a factor. Actually it works just fine when I turn off the

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Charles Polisher
Christopher Chan wrote: > James Hogarth wrote: > >>> > >>> If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a > >>> journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much > >>> less prone to unrecoverable data loss. > >> > >> Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EX

Re: [CentOS] Strange symbolic link behaviour?

2011-07-05 Thread Charles Polisher
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 06:52:47AM -0300, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin > wrote: > > > On 7/5/11, Eric B. wrote: > > > The strange behaviour here is when listing the parent directory (..). > > > In this case, ls .. is listing the contents of Mail/ di

Re: [CentOS] HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver

2011-07-05 Thread m . roth
Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to install CentOS 5.6 on HP DL 180 G6 which has HP Smart > Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver. I have 4 * 500 GB SATA HDD > and configured RAID 1+0 using System BIOS, the BIOS detects usable > disk space as 940GB disk space, when i start installing t

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Charles Polisher wrote: > > > (I'm sharpening my axe for the "Use ZFS, it's bulletproof" discussion.) > > -- > Charles Polisher > > > ___ > > HAHA, what's your take on ZFS then? We've been running ZFS on a few storage ser

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Christopher Chan
On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:26 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > (I'm sharpening my axe for the "Use ZFS, it's bulletproof" discussion.) > /me puts on asbestos suit...stares...switches to asbestos armor instead. > > > HAHA, what's your take on ZFS then? > > We've been running ZFS on a few storage se

Re: [CentOS] HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver

2011-07-05 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>I am trying to install CentOS 5.6 on HP DL 180 G6 which has HP Smart >Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver. I have 4 * 500 GB SATA HDD >and configured RAID 1+0 using System BIOS, the BIOS detects usable >disk space as 940GB disk space, when i start installing the OS, it >does not detect HP Smar

Re: [CentOS] HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver

2011-07-05 Thread m . roth
Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>I am trying to install CentOS 5.6 on HP DL 180 G6 which has HP Smart >>Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver. I have 4 * 500 GB SATA HDD >>and configured RAID 1+0 using System BIOS, the BIOS detects usable >>disk space as 940GB disk space, when i start installing the OS,

Re: [CentOS] Mirror URL Times Out

2011-07-05 Thread Torintino T
I still get this http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/updates/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 12] Timeout: Trying other mirror. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: update failure: repodata/repomd.xml from update: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml

Re: [CentOS] HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver

2011-07-05 Thread John Doe
From: Kaushal Shriyan > I am trying to install CentOS 5.6 on HP DL 180 G6 which has HP Smart > Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver. I have 4 * 500 GB SATA HDD > and configured RAID 1+0 using System BIOS, the BIOS detects usable > disk space as 940GB disk space, when i start installing the OS,

Re: [CentOS] Mirror URL Times Out

2011-07-05 Thread Markus Falb
On 5.7.2011 17:36, Torintino T wrote: > when i wget it resolves to : 41.215.241.82 > > > --18:31:14-- > http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/updates/i386/repodata/repomd.xml >=> `repomd.xml' > Resolving mirror.centos.org... 41.215.241.82 > Connecting to mirror.centos.org|41.215.241.82|

Re: [CentOS] Power-outage

2011-07-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, July 02, 2011 09:00:54 AM Jason Pyeron wrote: > You will either need many different batteries for the different voltages (1.2, > 3.3, 5, 12, -12, -5) or a DC ATX power supply (not cheap and not very powerful > until the 48V input variety) A company called PowerStream produces DC input

[CentOS] getting old mail every 5 months or so

2011-07-05 Thread Bob Hoffman
Using centos 5.x, sendmail, as a server, downloading mail with thunderbird (although this happened with outlook too) every 5 or 6 months I open my mail client (thunderbird) and one of my mail accounts decides to download 1,000 or so mails from my server. Old mail that I had already downloaded b

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/05/11 7:10 AM, Charles Polisher wrote: > In general and with some simplifiying assumptions, a database > consists of statically pre-allocated files. The process of extending > the files happens at birth. The relative speed over the lifetime > of the database is dominated by raw I/O, not by ex

Re: [CentOS] mounting a CentOS 5.5-based NFS partitions from a Mac OS X machine

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Kampen
Boris Epstein wrote: Is the OS X firewall blocking nfs? How are you mounting the export? If you're not trying it from within Terminal, does it work from within it? __ The OS X firewall dos not appear to be a factor. Actually it works just fine w

Re: [CentOS] getting old mail every 5 months or so

2011-07-05 Thread Scott Silva
on 7/5/2011 9:34 AM Bob Hoffman spake the following: > Using centos 5.x, sendmail, as a server, downloading mail with > thunderbird (although this happened with outlook too) > > every 5 or 6 months I open my mail client (thunderbird) and one of my > mail accounts decides to download 1,000 or so

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: >> We've been running ZFS on a few storage servers, both in the office and >> for our hosting clients for about 2 years now and all I can say it that >> it's rock solid. > > +1 > > Although I have seen screams from others on the opensolaris/o

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/5/2011 1:06 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > >> /me wonders what an md raid array with an ext3 fs that has its journal >> on an ssd in full data journal mode give in terms of performance. > > I honestly haven't tried this yet, probably cause when I looked at how > this works, it's only the journal whi

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > How much can that matter?  Reads are going to be cached in main RAM > anyway - which is pretty cheap these days. > > -- >    Les Mikesell >     lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ Yes, but I suppose it a

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/5/2011 1:30 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >> How much can that matter? Reads are going to be cached in main RAM >> anyway - which is pretty cheap these days. >> > > > Yes, but I suppose it all depends on the needs of the server in question :)

Re: [CentOS] mounting a CentOS 5.5-based NFS partitions from a Mac OS X machine

2011-07-05 Thread Keith Roberts
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Boris Epstein wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Boris Epstein > Subject: Re: [CentOS] mounting a CentOS 5.5-based NFS partitions from a Mac OS > X machine > >> >> Is the OS X firewall blocking nfs? >> >> How are you mounting the export? If you're not trying it fr

Re: [CentOS] getting old mail every 5 months or so

2011-07-05 Thread Keith Roberts
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Bob Hoffman wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Bob Hoffman > Subject: [CentOS] getting old mail every 5 months or so > > Using centos 5.x, sendmail, as a server, downloading mail with > thunderbird (although this happened with outlook too) > > every 5 or 6 months I ope

Re: [CentOS] Mirror URL Times Out

2011-07-05 Thread Torintino T
Yes, it's my ISP's DNS issue, i used another global DNS instead and it worked. Thanks a lot To: centos@centos.org From: markus.f...@fasel.at Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:55:25 +0200 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Mirror URL Times Out On 5.7.2011 17:36, Torintino T wrote: > when i wget it resolves to : 41.

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 7/5/2011 1:30 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Les Mikesell > wrote: > >> > >> How much can that matter? Reads are going to be cached in main RAM > >> anyway - which is pretty cheap these days. > >> > > > > > > Y

Re: [CentOS] Power-outage

2011-07-05 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 7/2/2011 7:34 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > I could in principle imagine all that coming in the future, but the > "monitor == shades" thing is just only Fi with no Sci in it. A human eye > cannot focus properly on any object which is closer to the eye than 10-15 cm > (depending on the eye qua

[CentOS] pam update

2011-07-05 Thread Paul A
Hi, I'm currently using, CentOS release 4.8 (Final) and wanted to update the pam_tally module to support unlock_time. I understand this is only support on centos 5.x and up. What are my options for updating pam_tally to support unlock_time, can I simply download and update from a centos repo or s

[CentOS] Need the CentOS 4.3 i386 ISO

2011-07-05 Thread Digimer
Hi all, I'm trying to rebuild a pretty old server. For this, I need a copy of the CentOS 4.3 i386 DVD ISO, ideally. The torrent on the CentOS vault is not working... Does anyone have a copy of: CentOS-4.3-i386-binDVD.iso (md5sum: ca5ccf17951f4b4ef0460c7847e0f2ac) Kicking around? I'd be m

Re: [CentOS] Need the CentOS 4.3 i386 ISO

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:51:15 -0400 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Hi all, > >I'm trying to rebuild a pretty old server. For this, I need a copy of > the CentOS 4.3 i386 DVD ISO, ideally. The torrent on the CentOS vault is > not working... Does anyone have a copy of: > > CentOS-4.3-i386-

Re: [CentOS] Need the CentOS 4.3 i386 ISO

2011-07-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/05/11 1:51 PM, Digimer wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to rebuild a pretty old server. For this, I need a copy of > the CentOS 4.3 i386 DVD ISO, ideally. The torrent on the CentOS vault is > not working... Does anyone have a copy of: > > CentOS-4.3-i386-binDVD.iso (md5sum: ca5ccf17951f4b4

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Ned Slider
On 05/07/11 10:09, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Mark Weaver wrote: >> On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking around for the last few days; even loo

Re: [CentOS] HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver

2011-07-05 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:14 PM, John Doe wrote: > From: Kaushal Shriyan > >> I am trying to install CentOS 5.6 on HP DL 180 G6 which has HP Smart >> Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver. I have 4 * 500 GB SATA HDD >> and configured RAID 1+0 using System BIOS, the BIOS detects usable >> disk sp

Re: [CentOS] HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver

2011-07-05 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Please help me understand. If the device requires an additional driver, unless its packaged as a dd for use at install, how can you install and then add a driver? Disable RAID mode, set it to AHCI, then Anaconda will see all the individual discs at which point during install you can choose to

Re: [CentOS] HP Smart Array B110i SATA RAID Controller Driver

2011-07-05 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>Please help me understand. > > If the device requires an additional driver, unless its packaged as a dd for > use at > install, how can you install and then add a driver? > > Disable RAID mode, set it to AHCI, then Anaconda will see all th

Re: [CentOS] Need the CentOS 4.3 i386 ISO

2011-07-05 Thread Digimer
On 07/05/2011 05:34 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:51:15 -0400 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm trying to rebuild a pretty old server. For this, I need a copy of >> the CentOS 4.3 i386 DVD ISO, ideally. The torrent on the CentOS vault is >> not working

Re: [CentOS] Need the CentOS 4.3 i386 ISO

2011-07-05 Thread Digimer
On 07/05/2011 05:48 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 07/05/11 1:51 PM, Digimer wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm trying to rebuild a pretty old server. For this, I need a copy of >> the CentOS 4.3 i386 DVD ISO, ideally. The torrent on the CentOS vault is >> not working... Does anyone have a copy of: >>

Re: [CentOS] Power-outage

2011-07-05 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 05 July 2011 21:31:50 Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 7/2/2011 7:34 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > I could in principle imagine all that coming in the future, but the > > "monitor == shades" thing is just only Fi with no Sci in it. A human eye > > cannot focus properly on any object which is cl

Re: [CentOS] mounting a CentOS 5.5-based NFS partitions from a Mac OS X machine

2011-07-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: > Boris Epstein wrote: >>> >>> Is the OS X firewall blocking nfs? >>> >>> How are you mounting the export? If you're not trying it from within >>> Terminal, does it work from within it? >> >> The OS X firewall dos not appear to be a factor. Actuall

Re: [CentOS] CentOS on the HP MicroServer

2011-07-05 Thread Devin Reade
I was looking at the marketing hype on those machines, and they look like they take a standard 3.5" SATA drive. OTOH, some pictures of the HP model drives for the microserver look like there's some type of handle on the front. I'm assuming that this is the "hard disk carrier" mentioned in the in

Re: [CentOS] CentOS on the HP MicroServer

2011-07-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/05/11 8:04 PM, Devin Reade wrote: > Does the basic microserver ship with four of those drive carriers, > or do they have to be purchased separately? > > Also, would anyone who has a CentOS-based microserver with a > remote access card care to share any observations about that > card, such as

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Charles Polisher
> On 07/05/11 7:10 AM, Charles Polisher wrote: > > In general and with some simplifiying assumptions, a database > > consists of statically pre-allocated files. The process of extending > > the files happens at birth. The relative speed over the lifetime > > of the database is dominated by raw I/O,

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/05/11 9:04 PM, Charles Polisher wrote: > The PostgreSQL wiki seems to say that database tables are > allocated in 1GB extents. In workloads with which I am > familiar, with an RDBMS the extents don't bounce > around all that much, i.e. the vast majority of writes do > not result in a change t