Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 26 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > So having SSD in laptop (if they are unreliable) is not much of an > option, unless I am going to carry duplicate HDD/SSD just in case this > one crashes. I'd argue that's just one of the risks you run with a laptop. In a laptop you've typically

Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John Hodrien wrote: > On Thu, 26 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> So having SSD in laptop (if they are unreliable) is not much of an >> option, unless I am going to carry duplicate HDD/SSD just in case this >> one crashes. > > I'd argue that's just one of the risks you run with a laptop.

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Lars Hecking
m.r...@5-cent.us writes: > Folks, > >My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes > that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't > look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that > Evolution claims to, but It's got to be

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Lars Hecking
> Thanks very much, but that's not going to work. My manager doesn't want to > use "random repos", and really doesn't want to build something that a) > would have to be rolled out to the whole division, and b) we'd have to be > responsible for building updates. > > I guess it's on to something el

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Lars Hecking
> Never mind, noscript was blocking the button from appearing. > > Now it won't install, since there doesn't appear to be an x86_64 version http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b1/contrib/linux-x86_64/ (Haven't checked if there's a 1.0b2) _

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Lars Hecking
jleafey writes: > I've been using a Java-based tool named DAVmail (davmail.sourceforge.net) to > access my Exchange calendar from Thunderbird with the Lightning plug-in. It > can basically proxy Exchange calendars (and e-mail for that matter) to > protocols that Thunderbird and Lightning can under

Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread John Doe
From: "aurfal...@gmail.com" > In Windows and OSX its easy to get TRIM working, does any know of TRIM  > for linux? You apparently need a 2.6.33+ kernel (I read somewhere RH backported what was needed to their 2.6.32) and an fs like ext4 or brtfs. Read some people giving advice to setup the ctr

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > >My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes > > that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't > > look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that > > Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Lars Hecking wrote: > Try the one from Remi Collet then. He's a contributor or even developer for > Fedora. You should first check that write just so you write something. I have his full mirror and when I searched my mrepo folder there was *no* thunderbird/firefox in it. And just now I just sc

Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread Steve Clark
On 05/27/2011 05:29 AM, John Doe wrote: From: "aurfal...@gmail.com" In Windows and OSX its easy to get TRIM working, does any know of TRIM for linux? You apparently need a 2.6.33+ kernel (I read somewhere RH backported what was needed to their 2.6.32) and an fs like ext4 or brtfs. Read some p

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Lars Hecking
Ljubomir Ljubojevic writes: > Lars Hecking wrote: > > Try the one from Remi Collet then. He's a contributor or even developer for > > Fedora. > > You should first check that write just so you write something. I have been building tb 3.1 rpms from Remi's SRPMs. Works well. Only requirement is

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Lars Hecking wrote: > Ljubomir Ljubojevic writes: >> Lars Hecking wrote: >>> Try the one from Remi Collet then. He's a contributor or even developer for >>> Fedora. >> You should first check that write just so you write something. > > I have been building tb 3.1 rpms from Remi's SRPMs. Works w

Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread John Doe
From: Steve Clark >On 05/27/2011 05:29 AM, John Doe wrote: >>Test = >>https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/checkiftrimonext4isenabledandworking >> Tested on Fedora (15) and it worked. > Hmmm How do you determine whether TRIM worked or not? See the link. JD __

Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread Thomas Harold
On 5/26/2011 8:04 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > John Hodrien wrote: >> On Thu, 26 May 2011, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: >> >>> Personally, I'm averse to using SSD with any important long term data >>> is the nightmare that I could one day wake up to find everything gone >>> without any means of re

Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread Steve Clark
On 05/27/2011 08:28 AM, John Doe wrote: From: Steve Clark On 05/27/2011 05:29 AM, John Doe wrote: Test = https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/checkiftrimonext4isenabledandworking Tested on Fedora (15) and it worked. Hmmm How do you determine whether TRIM worked or not? Thank

Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread John Doe
From: Steve Clark > Unfortunately when I try it on SL 6.0 hdparm gets a segment violation on the --read-sector command. The fedora one is 9.36 And the one we used on CentOS 5.6 was 9.37 (compiled it). Maybe try a more recent version... JD ___ C

Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition

2011-05-27 Thread Steve Clark
On 05/27/2011 10:04 AM, John Doe wrote: From: Steve Clark Unfortunately when I try it on SL 6.0 hdparm gets a segment violation on the --read-sector command. The fedora one is 9.36 And the one we used on CentOS 5.6 was 9.37 (compiled it). Maybe try a more recent version... Hmmm s

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/26/2011 4:21 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> 1) see if your boss has a problem with you having to remember to >> update thunderbird from the i386 updates directory. >> 2) see if you could (gently) convince the centos guys to put it >> also in one of the centosplus or extras x86_64 p

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/26/2011 4:21 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >>> 1) see if your boss has a problem with you having to remember to >>> update thunderbird from the i386 updates directory. >>> 2) see if you could (gently) convince the centos guys to put it >>> also in one of the cent

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> On 5/26/2011 4:21 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: 1) see if your boss has a problem with you having to remember to update thunderbird from the i386 updates directory. 2) see if you could (gently) convince the centos guys to put it >>

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread m . roth
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Les Mikesell wrote: >>> On 5/26/2011 4:21 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> If you are using Centos as a desktop, you'll probably want to upgrade >>> to 6.0 at the first opportunity which should get you up to T-bird 3.1.x >>> with a matching th

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/27/2011 10:00 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> If you are using Centos as a desktop, you'll probably want to upgrade to >> 6.0 at the first opportunity which should get you up to T-bird 3.1.x >> with a matching thunderbird-ligntening in EPEL. Still need the exchange >> connector, though. > >

[CentOS] local repo

2011-05-27 Thread Jerry Geis
Hi all, When I am installing I use kickstart and have a line like: repo --name=Updates --baseurl=http://192.168.1.14/centos/5.6/updates/x86_64/ and that works great for installing the OS. After that the machine reboots and I have it automatically go into additional installations running scr

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/27/2011 10:00 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >>> If you are using Centos as a desktop, you'll probably want to upgrade >>> to 6.0 at the first opportunity which should get you up to T-bird 3.1.x >>> with a matching thunderbird-ligntening in EPEL. Still need the >>> excha

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/27/2011 10:34 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > If you are using Centos as a desktop, you'll probably want to upgrade to 6.0 at the first opportunity which should get you up to T-bird 3.1.x with a matching thunderbird-ligntening in EPEL. Still need the exchange connector, thou

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/26/2011 4:21 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > If you are using Centos as a desktop, you'll probably want to upgrade to 6.0 at the first opportunity which should get you up to T-

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Les Mikesell wrote: > Yes, I am missing some point. If you run X you can run anything from > anywhere else in a window pretty much transparently. Why can't you add > accounts for everyone on the RH 6.1 box (probably doing authentication > against your windows domain since everyone with exchang

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/27/2011 11:26 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Yes, I am missing some point. If you run X you can run anything from >> anywhere else in a window pretty much transparently. Why can't you add >> accounts for everyone on the RH 6.1 box (probably doing authentication >> against your windows do

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/27/2011 11:26 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >>> Yes, I am missing some point. If you run X you can run anything from >>> anywhere else in a window pretty much transparently. Why can't you add > >> I think you are talking about remote desktop implementation, and he >

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/27/2011 11:51 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Yes, I am missing some point. If you run X you can run anything from anywhere else in a window pretty much transparently. Why can't you add > >> >>> I think you are talking about remote desktop implementation, and he >>> about nVidia dri

Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA

2011-05-27 Thread James B. Byrne
On 5/26/2011 11:50 AM Steven Crothers spake the following: > >> more beneficial in the long run for the project. However, they are >> currently worried about people "stealing" their work and starting >> their own rebuilds of RHEL, which if that was going to happen it >> would have already. The SL

[CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread James B. Byrne
I have been working off and on with Xen and KVM on a couple of test hosts for that past year or so and while now everything seems to function as expected, more or less, I find myself asking the question: Why? We run our own servers at our own sites for our own purposes. We do not, with a few smal

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Digimer
On 05/27/2011 02:33 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: > I have been working off and on with Xen and KVM on a couple of test > hosts for that past year or so and while now everything seems to > function as expected, more or less, I find myself asking the > question: Why? > > We run our own servers at our ow

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/27/2011 11:51 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Yes, I am missing some point. If you run X you can run anything from > anywhere else in a window pretty much transparently. Why can't you add >> I think you are talking about remote desktop implementation, and he

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Jim Wildman
Server utilization and seperation. I need 10 web servers, none of which are going to be busy, but each organization in my business wants their "own". 10 vms on a 2 cpu box makes more sense that 1 web server on each of ten. Add a second vm host for some redundancy, etc, etc. On Fri, 27 May 2011,

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread m . roth
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> On 5/27/2011 11:51 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Yes, I am missing some point. If you run X you can run anything >> from anywhere else in a window pretty much transparently. Why can't >> you add >>> > I think you are talking ab

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Rob Lines
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:33 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: > I have been working off and on with Xen and KVM on a couple of test > hosts for that past year or so and while now everything seems to > function as expected, more or less, I find myself asking the > question: Why? > > We run our own servers

Re: [CentOS] calendar

2011-05-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/27/2011 1:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >>> Still a separate issue from running thunderbird or any other single app >>> remotely. From your workstation, does 'ssh -Y rh_6_box thunderbird' do >>> something reasonable? I suppose you would end up having to automount >>> the users own home di

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Lamar Owen
On May 27, 2011, at 2:33 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: Why would a small company not in the public hosting business choose to employ VM technology? What are the benefits over operating several individual small form factor servers or blades instead? Well, we do virtualization for an unusual reaso

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/27/2011 1:33 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: > I have been working off and on with Xen and KVM on a couple of test > hosts for that past year or so and while now everything seems to > function as expected, more or less, I find myself asking the > question: Why? > > We run our own servers at our own

[CentOS] CentOS 5.5 x64, HP ProLiant Microserver and eSATA

2011-05-27 Thread Andy Holt
Hello all. Not sure how many people here also frequent the CentOS forums, so apologies for the 'cross post'. I know some here are using CentOS on HP's ProLiant Microserver, so if anyone's tried eSATA on their box, please let me know. Perhaps best to reply over at the forum - https://www.cent

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 27 May 2011 14:33:23 -0400 (EDT) CentOS mailing list wrote: > > I have been working off and on with Xen and KVM on a couple of test > hosts for that past year or so and while now everything seems to > function as expected, more or less, I find myself asking the > question: Why? > > We

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Steve Thompson
On Fri, 27 May 2011, Digimer wrote: > Live migration between physical hosts. Also, ease of recovery in the > event of a failure. Can move the VM to entirely new hardware when the > old hardware is no longer powerful enough... etc. And if you have licensed software that ties its network license ke

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Lamar Owen
On May 27, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: And if you have licensed software that ties its network license keys to a specific MAC address, you no longer have to tie the license server to a specific physical box. And if you plan properly, you can keep the same MAC addresses on all

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Steve Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 27 May 2011, Digimer wrote: > >> Live migration between physical hosts. Also, ease of recovery in the >> event of a failure. Can move the VM to entirely new hardware when the >> old hardware is no longer powerful enough... etc. > > And if you have licensed software

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Devin Reade
But taking the other side of the argument, here are two scenarios where I *wouldn't* use virtualization (one could certainly enumerate more): 1. A production DB server or server cluster. 2. I've had services where I needed to maximize uptime. One option I tried were VMs and being able to move

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Steve Thompson
On Fri, 27 May 2011, Devin Reade wrote: > Thank god for test environments. And backups. Backups? Que? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread James B. Byrne
On Fri, May 27, 2011 14:36, Jack Bailey wrote: > There are lots of good reasons to virtualize. > > http://www.vmware.com/virtualization/why-virtualize.html > > Jack > As it turns out, that was one of the net resources I had in mind when I described what I found as mostly puff and smoke. This is

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Devin Reade
--On Friday, May 27, 2011 05:35:32 PM -0400 Steve Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 27 May 2011, Devin Reade wrote: > >> Thank god for test environments. And backups. > > Backups? Que? That was just an OT aside referring that while the optimist in me hopes for an easy rolling upgrade from CentOS 5 to

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:54 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 14:36, Jack Bailey wrote: > > There are lots of good reasons to virtualize. > > > > http://www.vmware.com/virtualization/why-virtualize.html > > > > Jack > > > > As it turns out, that was one of the net resources I ha

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
James B. Byrne wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 14:36, Jack Bailey wrote: >> 1. Get more out of your existing resources: Pool common >> infrastructure resources and break the legacy “one application >> to one server” model with server consolidation. > > I have difficulty with this statement on so m

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Filipe Rosset
Other cool feature: KSM http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KSM http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/using-ksm-kernel-samepage-merging-kvm Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Ross Walker
On May 27, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Devin Reade wrote: > But taking the other side of the argument, here are two scenarios where > I *wouldn't* use virtualization (one could certainly enumerate more): > > 1. A production DB server or server cluster. I actually have really good experience with MSSQL an

Re: [CentOS] local repo

2011-05-27 Thread Steven Crothers
You'll have to edit your repos in the %post section of your ks. The repos are provided by centos-release iirc. On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Jerry Geis wrote: > Hi all, > > When I am installing I use kickstart and have a line like: >    repo --name=Updates > --baseurl=http://192.168.1.14/cent

Re: [CentOS] OT: Why VM?

2011-05-27 Thread Drew
>>   2. Reduce data center costs by reducing your physical >> infrastructure and improving your server to admin ratio: >> Fewer servers and related IT hardware means reduced real >> estate and reduced power and cooling requirements. Better >> management tools let you improve your server to admin ra

[CentOS] Where is the Centos Linux 5.5 kernel syscall handler for mmap?

2011-05-27 Thread Frank Chang
Good evening, We are using Centos Linux Release 5.5 x86_32. We wondering where the kernel syscall handler for mmap in Centos Linux 5.5 distribution is located(for example /usr/xxx/)? Would any programmers or operating system administrators have this information? Thank you.